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Sat Apr 27, 2013, 12:35 PM

Gun pulled on woman waiting for mall parking spot

OVERLAND PARK, Kan. —Overland Park police are investigating after a gun was pulled on a woman waiting for a parking space.

Investigators said a woman decided to stop and wait for a person to leave a particular parking space when a man driving a car behind her grew impatient and started honking and yelling obscenities.

Police said it happened about 4:30 p.m. on the food court side of the mall.

Authorities said the woman didn't budge and the man in the car behind her drove up to her side of the vehicle, pulled a gun and started waving it at her, threatening to kill her if she didn't move.



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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 12:48 PM

1. That's a tad of an overreaction.

I hope he loses his right to own guns.


Although it is annoying when someone holds everyone up because they don't want to park an extra 25ft away from the entrance. Not saying that's what was going on here, but ughhh.

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Response to octothorpe (Reply #1)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 01:14 PM

13. Sometimes those people need to park close.

I have a friend in a cast right now with a broken leg. She doesn't have a handicapped sticker - her disability is temporary. But when we go out, I look for the closest spot I can find so she doesn't have to walk far.

My dad had Parkinson's and absolutely refused to get a handicapped sticker. So we looked for close spots when he was in the car.

So I try not to judge people looking for those close spots. I have no idea why they want to park there.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Reply #13)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 01:18 PM

19. Yeah, those are valid points...

Particularly in the situation where someone may have a broken leg or something. I don't pull guns on people or lay my horn down or anything... After all, waiting a minute longer isn't something to go apeshit over. Although, I am guilty of usually assuming people are like my lazy brother who often gets annoyed with me because I don't drive around for 15 minutes to find the perfect parking spot.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Reply #13)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 03:22 PM

65. I feel perfectly comfortable judging people who wave guns around in parking lots. n/t

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #65)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 04:51 PM

94. Me too.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #65)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 09:05 PM

146. Yeeeeaaaaaah, I think it's safe to say that clown has no business with a gun.

And hey, I'm a "gun nut" according to some around here.



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Edited because I can't type worth sh*t tonight ...

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Reply #13)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 08:25 PM

140. That's rare, in my experience. It's usu. someone who wants to park close...

and they frankly don't give a shi*t if they hold up a line of cars behind them. I run across that on occasion, and it's very irritating to run across people with no consideration of others. Still, that's part of living in a city, and I try to take it in stride, as do others. Pulling a gun is an overreaction to say the least, besides being a crime.

Today I was behind someone with her turn signal on, waiting and waiting for someone to pull out of a space. I just waited. I didn't have to be anywhere at a certain time. I didn't have to wait toooo long, though, because what happened? When the car pulled out, another car from the OTHER direction, zoomed into the spot before the car in front of me could. It was absolute gall. The thing that happened in that movie, Fried Green Tomatoes. It just makes you downright mad at the in-your-face shit-on-you of it all. I felt for the car in front of me as she honked her horn solidly as she then sped off. I turned to look at the man who got out of the car that had zoomed into the space that wasn't his...and he averted his eyes. Narcissistic AND chicken.

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Response to octothorpe (Reply #1)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 02:30 PM

48. The guy pulled up next to her to wave the gun, so clearly there was room to get around her

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Response to Beaverhausen (Reply #48)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 03:25 PM

69. +1. n/t

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Response to Beaverhausen (Reply #48)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 07:43 PM

126. And then he drove off as she called 911--so, yeah. she *wasn't* blocking him at all! nt

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Response to Beaverhausen (Reply #48)

Sun Apr 28, 2013, 10:08 PM

160. That is the question that I had. He could have simply drove around her car. I do that often at

my favorite grocery store, which is always busy.

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Response to bluestate10 (Reply #160)

Sun Apr 28, 2013, 10:33 PM

161. I've had this experience. I stop to wait for someone

And leave room for others to get around me. But some people still don't get it, they get pissed off, honk their horn and finally go by when I wave them on.


What really sucks is I park on the street at my home. When I pull up to parallel park, with my turn signal on, some people get incensed that they have to go around me. It's so fucked up I don't understand their thinking. I ALWAYS signal that I'm doing it but still some people just can't get so pissed. They honk and gun their engine to get around me. It's nuts.

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Response to octothorpe (Reply #1)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 03:31 PM

75. We don't even know why she wanted that spot. Maybe the lot was very crowded.

I often have to drive around for quite some time at my local mall, and when I finally find a spot, yes, I do wait.

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Response to octothorpe (Reply #1)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 03:46 PM

87. That's me

I don't care how far I have to walk, I'd rather park out at the edges then get into these pissing matches.

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Response to octothorpe (Reply #1)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 07:04 PM

117. Just another reason that guns need to be banned

 

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Response to octothorpe (Reply #1)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 11:42 PM

156. +1

 

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 01:01 PM

2. Ironically, this is a pretty good reason for this woman to own a gun.

 

As a gun owner who carries concealed, you have to know the gun laws. And I mean backwards and forwards. This guy committed a crime. It's called brandishing. But she shouldn't have been holding up traffic just to be lazy.

Under the law, at least in my home state of Virginia, what the root cause is legally important. If you do something to escalate a situation, the law is not on your side. If, heaven forbid, that I ever have to use my gun for self-defense, I'm much more likely to avoid getting put behind bars if I don't do a single thing to escalate a situation.

This means, always being polite and courteous while you're in public. I never road rage. I always obey the speed limit. I'm always a defensive driver. I always hold doors for other people. I am as polite, courteous, and gentile and soft spoken in public as I possibly can be. This is what keeps the law on my side.

This woman did not deserve having a gun brandished at her. But she should have had more consideration for other people. And I have no doubt she could have used the exercise if she bothered to park at the farthest end of the parking lot. There's plenty of parking there, folks. Who doesn't need a walk these days?

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Response to Alva Goldbook (Reply #2)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 01:07 PM

3. when two people show up to an arguement with a gun

it is called a war...

"Ironically, this is a pretty good reason for this woman to own a gun."

NO it is not, shoot out over a "parking spot" is not a reason to carry.

The idiot should lose his right to own any weapon, he has demonstrated that he is mentally unfit to own a weapon.

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Response to mikeysnot (Reply #3)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 01:54 PM

36. I completely agree that this guy should lose his right to own a gun.

 

He needs to be behind bars. He committed a crime.

I'm not suggesting that there should have been a shoot out in a parking lot. And in reality (as opposed to Hollywood movies), there is almost never a shootout between two people. When you're shot at, people tend to run for their lives, even if they have a gun.

Case in point:



I'm not saying that this is what should have happened. I'm simply demonstrating that shootouts are rare, do to the nature of human survival instinct, i.e. the flight or fight syndrome.

My point here is that if this woman had been a properly trained gun owner, then she would have been forced to have more consideration for other people, and this incident wouldn't have happened. I'm not saying that what happened to her was justified, I'm just saying that being a gun owner would have likely prevented this event from ever occurring.

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Response to Alva Goldbook (Reply #36)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 02:18 PM

45. And I completely disagree that she was being inconsiderate.

At most it was a minor inconvenience. Gun guy should have just pulled around her.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Reply #45)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 05:52 PM

100. I second that--he was too impatient and way over-reacting. nt

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Response to Alva Goldbook (Reply #36)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 03:06 PM

57. Properly trained gun owners are "forced" to have more consideration for others? What?

Is that part of Proper Gun Training? Being Forced to have more consideration for others? And way to blame the victim. If only she'd been properly trained in guns she'd've been forced to make sure this jerk had nothing to get upset about?

I mean...what?

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Response to Alva Goldbook (Reply #36)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 03:29 PM

73. What are you saying? That a properly trained gun owner wouldn't wait for a parking spot?

So they give parking lot training in gun classes?

And gun owners are more polite and patient than other people?

Sorry, but this is ludicrous.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #73)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 10:40 PM

153. LOL

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Response to Alva Goldbook (Reply #36)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 04:07 PM

91. That's ridiculous

He was a gun owner and wasn't forced to be considerate. Being a gun owner, trained or not, doesn't and can't make people considerate. People either are considerate or aren't.

Worst argument ever.

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Response to Alva Goldbook (Reply #36)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 07:11 PM

118. What ...?

"My point here is that if this woman had been a properly trained gun owner, then she would have been forced to have more consideration for other people, and this incident wouldn't have happened. I'm not saying that what happened to her was justified, I'm just saying that being a gun owner would have likely prevented this event from ever occurring. "This was a failed attempt to be funny ...?

Are you suggesting that the proper response to this situation would have been brandishing a gun, in return? This is unbelievable that something like this would even be suggested here.

The answer to gun threats and violence is NOT MORE GUNS.

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #133)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 08:08 PM

134. And I would like my alert privileges back!




At Sat Apr 27, 2013, 06:59 PM you sent an alert on the following post:

Bill, this guy BROKE THE LAW.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2764151

REASON FOR ALERT:

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate. (See <a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=aboutus#communitystandards" target="_blank">Community Standards</a>.)

YOUR COMMENTS:

Blaming the victim of road rage.

JURY RESULTS

A randomly-selected Jury of DU members completed their review of this alert at Sat Apr 27, 2013, 07:10 PM, and voted 0-6 to LEAVE IT ALONE.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: Send all this shit back to the gungeon. It makes GD suck when people can't get along. A pox on everybody's house in this thread.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: Uhhhhh.... Nope?
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: I am sooooooooooooooo through with these
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: Number 1: This is not road rage, this is parking lot rage.

Number 2: The poster states that the guy with the gun broke the law and should be locked up. What, that's not good enough for you, Mr. Alerter? Should we send him to Gitmo and let a military commission decide his fate?

Number 3: It sounds like the woman AKA "The Victim" was being an idiot too. C'mon, sister, find another spot. Other people have lives to live too.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: Inappropriate and unnecessary alert

Thank you.

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Response to Moses2SandyKoufax (Reply #134)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 08:11 PM

136. Looks like alerter #1 mis-hit, should've been hide.

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #136)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 08:13 PM

137. Really? It looks like a false-equivalency. n/t

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Response to Alva Goldbook (Reply #2)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 01:10 PM

5. She doesn't need to own a gun to know you can't use it to get a parking spot.

She doesn't need to own a gun to know it's illegal to point it at someone to intimidate them into doing what you want them to do.

This asshole with the gun could have backed up or gone around her (I've been to this mall. It has a huge parking lot with wide lanes) and he could have parked somewhere else. When I see someone waiting for a spot, I don't pull up behind them; I go to another lane. And I have never once thought it was impolite to wait for a spot. There could be a good reason she wanted that particular spot. My dad was handicapped but refused to get a sticker for his car so we often looked for a nearby spot or just dropped him off at the door when the weather was bad.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Reply #5)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 08:40 PM

144. A number of people wait outside stores to pick up someone coming out. Would he have pulled his gun

on a shuttle bus waiting in the same situation?

No, he never would do that because of the power implied in the size of the vehicle and the number of people involved with shuttle buses - authority figures.

This is typical bullying behavior. He saw a woman alone in the car and decided to indulge his privilege to intimidate her.

It's very disappointing that the police only 'talked to the man' and have not arrested him.

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Response to Alva Goldbook (Reply #2)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 01:11 PM

8. Not sure I follow.

You are basically blaming the woman for being "inconsiderate" by making the man behind her wait and grow impatient, and then pull his gun. So SHE should own a gun? Why? So that they can have a good old Shootout at the K Mart Corral?

I'm sorry, but to me there was no call for the man to pull out his gun because he was being made to wait while this woman parked, and it shows just how much society has become so self-centered and impatient that we can't stand any "inconvenience" of any kind.

And how do you know that the woman didn't have some kind of physical condition that would have made it difficult for her to walk any kind of distance? You don't have to have a handicapped sticker on your car to have some kind of infirmity or injury that would make it difficult to walk any distance, and thus make you try to find a spot closer to where you're going. I know. I've been in such a situation.

But I can't justify the man's behavior here. He was the one being selfish and inconsiderate.

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Response to AngryOldDem (Reply #8)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 01:17 PM

17. +1

 

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Response to AngryOldDem (Reply #8)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 01:56 PM

37. I refer you to post #36 (nt)

 

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Response to Alva Goldbook (Reply #37)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 02:48 PM

51. Sorry -- more tortured reasoning.

Basically, what you're saying is, that if the woman were carrying herself, she would assume that everyone else was carrying and that would have made her "more considerate." Made more considerate out of fear. What a way to live. But that is, I guess, the rationale behind concealed carry. You don't know who is packing, so your mind your Ps and Qs.

Again -- what kind of hurry was the man in that he could not stand to wait for the woman to pull into the lot? Or, if he had enough room to pull up alongside, why didn't he just pull around and be on his merry way?

You say the man should lose his right to own a gun -- fair enough. But please stop defending him for his pulling the gun in the first place.


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Response to AngryOldDem (Reply #51)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 03:09 PM

60. I personally think he wanted the parking spot. NT

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Response to juajen (Reply #60)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 03:24 PM

68. It does feel like there's some additional motivation at play besides just 'holding up traffic'

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Response to juajen (Reply #60)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 03:35 PM

78. That's my guess as well.

And he probably would have waited for it just as the woman did, but I'm sure he wouldn't have seen that as being "inconsiderate." But, if someone did, he had his trusty gun to settle the point.

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Response to AngryOldDem (Reply #8)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 05:49 PM

99. For RW gun losers, it's always someone else's fault.

 

No doubt, the RW gun loser in the story thought he was defending himself - that he HAD to defend himself. It's not his fault that the woman was being so inconsiderate.

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Response to Alva Goldbook (Reply #2)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 01:13 PM

9. Yep, I bet you would have shot him center mass.

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Response to Alva Goldbook (Reply #2)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 01:15 PM

14. Do you gun nuts ever realize how stupid you sound?

 

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Response to Alva Goldbook (Reply #2)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 01:16 PM

15. No, it's a good reason for the hot-headed man NOT to fucking own a gun.

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Response to PeaceNikki (Reply #15)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 01:57 PM

38. I agree.

 

Gun ownership is a serious responsibility. If you're prone to outbursts or have a temper problem, then you shouldn't own a gun.

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Response to Alva Goldbook (Reply #38)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 04:09 PM

92. From what I've seen

People prone to outbursts or who have temper problems have a higher than average likelihood of buying guns. They want power and guns are power.

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Response to devilgrrl (Reply #20)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 05:02 PM

96. "She had the far superior weapon"

 

+1000

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #96)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 08:27 PM

141. +1

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Response to Alva Goldbook (Reply #2)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 01:24 PM

21. I doubt a gun would have helped at all in this situation...

Had the guy intended to shoot her, it would have been over before she would have even had a chance to react. I'd even venture to guess that had she had a gun herself, it may have escalated the situation if she pulled it out and pointed it at him.

For me, the only thing this situation demonstrates is that there are people out there with guns who shouldn't have guns. I'm sure even someone who is really pro-gun ownership can agree with this.

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Response to Alva Goldbook (Reply #2)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 01:34 PM

28. If I didn't read it, I wouldn't

believe that you actually said: "This woman did not deserve having a gun brandished at her. But she should have had more consideration for other people. And I have no doubt she could have used the exercise if she bothered to park at the farthest end of the parking lot. There's plenty of parking there, folks. Who doesn't need a walk these days?"

You gunners would actually stoop that low to defend an obvious gun nut asshole who should be locked up? Are there no depths to which you will not lower yourselves? This is a prime example of the need for tighter control of who, and who doesn't get to have a fucking gun, and you turn it into a "more guns will solve the problem" fucking argument while defending the gun nut.

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Response to billh58 (Reply #28)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 01:59 PM

41. Bill, this guy BROKE THE LAW.

 

he should be behind bars. I'm not defending him. But c'mon, how many people these days are completely inconsiderate of others when they get behind the wheel? If everyone was polite and courteous while driving we wouldn't have a problem with road rage.

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Response to Alva Goldbook (Reply #41)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 02:05 PM

42. Blame the victim,

it's the NRA thing to do.

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Response to billh58 (Reply #42)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 02:07 PM

44. I just blamed the guy who BROKE THE FREAKING LAW.

 

Can you read?

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Response to Alva Goldbook (Reply #44)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 02:18 PM

46. Typical of an NRA

spokesperson: say something (but if the woman had been more considerate) and then deny having said it. Pitiful and sad.

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Response to billh58 (Reply #46)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 08:31 PM

142. Or if, she'd dressed appropriately, or smiled, or... I see a pattern here.

The onus is on the aggressor, the out of control gun owner who couldn't wait, nor remember how to drive, or keep his temper in check or his gun in his pants...

Thanks bill for saying it like it is.

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Response to Alva Goldbook (Reply #44)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 03:09 PM

61. Yet if she weren't so lazy and inconsiderate, he'd not been provoked. Can you read what you wrote?

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Response to Alva Goldbook (Reply #44)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 03:16 PM

62. You just blamed the victim, AGAIN.

You blamed her for another's rage. Do you even read what you post?

I can be as big an inconsiderate asshole as I want to be, it gives NO ONE the right to fucking shoot me.

They don' t hand out death sentences for being rude or clueless...except in Gunner Land.

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Response to Alva Goldbook (Reply #44)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 03:18 PM

63. "If everyone was polite and courteous while driving we wouldn't have a problem with road rage"

THAT is what you wrote and what we are calling you on. Even if everyone is polite and courteous, others will still be jerks and assholes.

Rather like "if all women were polite and courteous we wouldn't have a problem with domestic violence". Or "If all women wore burkas we wouldn't have a problem with rape". Or "if all children were polite and courteous we wouldn't have a problem with bullying in schools".

There will always be jerks and saying "if others behaved differently" is what you said and is wrong.

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #63)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 03:22 PM

66. This^

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #63)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 04:10 PM

93. +1

Wow. I can't believe the horrible arguments I'm hearing in this thread.

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Response to Alva Goldbook (Reply #44)

Sun Apr 28, 2013, 10:01 PM

159. Bye Alva. See ya next time.

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Response to Alva Goldbook (Reply #41)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 05:54 PM

101. In a perfect world, everyone would be polite and courteous on the road.


I question your motives here.


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Response to Alva Goldbook (Reply #41)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 08:09 PM

135. And you defended him

When you put it in writing you it becomes hard to get away with denying it. If you don't stand behind what you said then take it back. If you don't take it back, then defend it.

Just for once I want a gun nut to actually stand behind what he believes.

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Response to Alva Goldbook (Reply #2)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 01:37 PM

30. yes - this makes perfect sense. She should be waving hers in a "who's bigger" contest. yeah. n/t

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Response to Alva Goldbook (Reply #2)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 01:49 PM

33. I'm missing the part of your post where you support the premise in the subj line.

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Response to Alva Goldbook (Reply #2)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 01:51 PM

35. Another gun would have just made it more likely for someone to be shot.

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Response to Alva Goldbook (Reply #2)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 02:53 PM

54. If she had shown a gun, he probably would have shot her in "self defense".

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Response to Alva Goldbook (Reply #2)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 02:57 PM

55. So they could have a shoot out in the parking lot

 

Yes Ironically that would be the ideal situation.

And holding up traffic because she is lazy. So let's say she moved on, and the guy then waited for the same spot. Is he now lazy too? The asshole had enough room to go around her, but chose to be an ass instead. This asshole proved he shouldn't own a gun or a car.

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Response to Alva Goldbook (Reply #2)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 03:07 PM

58. "But she shouldn't have been holding up traffic just to be lazy" Wow. You have "no doubt" she

could have used the exercise. Double wow.

Assume much?

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Response to Alva Goldbook (Reply #2)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 03:08 PM

59. drive like an asshole and protect yourself with a gun!!!

OMG

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Response to Alva Goldbook (Reply #2)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 03:24 PM

67. The man drove up next to her, which proves she wasn't blocking him. n/t

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Response to Alva Goldbook (Reply #2)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 03:26 PM

70. Not unless you want to get involved in a showdown over a parking space. n/t

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Response to Alva Goldbook (Reply #2)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 03:29 PM

74. Oh boy…

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Response to Alva Goldbook (Reply #2)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 03:47 PM

88. She Was Holding Up Traffic Just To Be Lazy??????

 

How on earth did you jump to that insane conclusion?

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Response to Alva Goldbook (Reply #2)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 07:36 PM

124. Ironically, you're a dumbass who has been PPR'd

B'Bye, gun humper.

RL

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Response to RetroLounge (Reply #124)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 07:54 PM

128. Today, I alerted on one of its posts, and the jury voted to leave it 6-0.

I wonder if I can get back my alert option.

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Response to Alva Goldbook (Reply #2)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 08:17 PM

139. Dickless had room to pull up alongside and then go around.

 

Therefore the woman was not impeding traffic.

London to a house-brick Dickless wanted that spot for himself.


"...No doubt she could have used the exercise..."

Why not say what you clearly think? Fat and lazy. Insinuation is not "polite and courteous" Not saying anything at all is "polite and courteous".

When people insist on ennumerating just how bloody wonderful they are, I know they're almost certainly anything but, and you go on to demonstrate just that when you blame the victim for her part in "provoking" Dickless's unconscionable behaviour.


Dressing provocatively is not invitiation to rape.

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Response to Alva Goldbook (Reply #2)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 11:57 PM

157. Look the solutionn is less guns not more and there is nothing ironic about it at all.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 01:10 PM

4. WAAAH. You're not paying any attention to me!!




Tough guy was acting just like a three year old.

Mental evaluations should be required in cases like this.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 01:10 PM

6. Another responsible gun owner.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #6)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 03:41 PM

83. GMTA. nt

 

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 01:11 PM

7. Clearly...

...he had plenty of room:

”...and the man in the car behind
her drove up to her side of the
vehicle...”

He was just being a dick. I wish people in this thread would stop blaming the woman.

TYY

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Response to TeeYiYi (Reply #7)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 01:14 PM

11. If he had room to drive alongisde...

...then he had room to pass.

This is one of the reasons why I hate driving anymore. I don't know if I'm going to do something that will piss someone off to the point they want to kill me.

Tell me again why concealed carry is such a great idea?

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Response to TeeYiYi (Reply #7)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 01:16 PM

16. Yep. He could have just driven around her.

He just wanted to be an asshole.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Reply #16)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 02:47 PM

50. Asshole Brandishing A Gun

 

is a tad bit scarier than just wanting to be an asshole.

Christ I would have had a stroke.
I hope he get's his fucking gun taken away.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 01:13 PM

10. This guy getting his guns confiscated would be a good news story

But the people who block the road waiting for parking spaces piss me off too.

I have a patent pending method of fixing these guys when they block the road waiting for my spot...and some of the morans around here will block the road if they see you approaching the car with a bag: I go back in the store.

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Response to jmowreader (Reply #10)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 01:17 PM

18. She wasn't blocking the road.

He was able to pull up next to her and point his gun at her.

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Response to jmowreader (Reply #10)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 01:25 PM

22. You sound like you have a temper/anger issue also. n-t

 

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Response to jmowreader (Reply #10)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 03:32 PM

77. He drove around her, proving she wasn't blocking him. n/t

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Response to jmowreader (Reply #10)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 03:45 PM

86. Hmmm ...

 

If someone sees a driver get into their car as if to leave, then waiting for them nearby, after moving your car out of the way so others can pass you .... It is completely reasonable for a person to do this ....

First car to see that driver is leaving gets the first chance to await their departure and move into the space once it's empty ...

Someone in that position is under no obligation to 'keep going' ... as long as they don't block the roadway (she didn't) then they are perfectly in their rights to stop and await the departing vehicle ...

I respect the line - first come first served ...

Do you respect the line, or are you always first, no matter what ?

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Response to jmowreader (Reply #10)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 08:05 PM

132. if i see someone just stopped

And waiiting to see if anybody backs out (holding up traffic) I just browse DU until that person gives up and then let the second person have the space.

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Response to Niceguy1 (Reply #132)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 10:46 PM

154. LOL! Best reply in the thread!!

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Response to jmowreader (Reply #10)

Sun Apr 28, 2013, 12:28 AM

158. She wasn't blocking. He drove up beside her to

threaten her, then drove away when she called the cops.

Not blocking at all.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 01:14 PM

12. I hate malls.

I'm kind of surprised that more people don't get their asses kicked for stupid parking lot behavior.

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Response to HappyMe (Reply #12)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 01:27 PM

23. yes, because physical violence for bad behavior is a good idea. n-t

 

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Response to Logical (Reply #23)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 01:32 PM

25. ....



I haven't ever seen anybody get their ass kicked in a parking lot, so.... thanks for the unnecessary lesson.

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Response to HappyMe (Reply #25)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 01:42 PM

31. I saw 2 women fighting in the grocery store parking lot years ago.

They had had a fender bender. Another shopper told me they came inside and asked the store manager to call the police (this was years before cell phones) and the store manager told them the cops wouldn't come because it's private property. So the women went back out to the parking lot, one thing led to another, and by the time I pulled up, they were punching the living shit out of each other. And when the manager called the cops to report the fight, they came.

It seems funny now but it really wasn't at the time.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Reply #31)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 02:06 PM

43. A couple of years ago I saw 2 women

fighting over an ugly Christmas sweater. They were yelling and both yanking on the sweater. I don't know how it ended. I got the hell out of there, after I laughed and they both gave me a nasty look.

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Response to HappyMe (Reply #12)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 01:28 PM

24. Me, too. When I must go to one,

I park way out in the boondocks, where I can pull through and drive out, rather than back out. Then I walk to the mall. It's amazing how many spaces there are out 100 yards from the masses of cars. I can walk. I like to walk. It's good for me.

I hate malls, though, so I'm not there often.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #24)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 01:33 PM

27. Yup. If we absolutely have to go

we park far away from the parking spot wars.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #24)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 01:57 PM

39. Any day my cranky knee will allow, I do the same as you.

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Response to Gidney N Cloyd (Reply #39)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 01:59 PM

40. I hear that. I'm fortunate that I don't have

any serious creaky bits yet. At age 67, though, it may be around the corner.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #24)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 03:20 PM

64. Women are safer from thiefs and perverts when they park up close.

We have all been taught that in every self defense class that I have taken. I never park in a lonely place. Then, "we're just asking for it" as our menfolk are prone to say.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #24)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 03:38 PM

81. I do the same, because I don't like backing out of tight spots. But...

...a few years back I had a knee injury that kept me from walking distances. I could get around stores, etc., just fine, but I really appreciated parking closer so I wouldn't have to trek through acres and acres of lot on a bad knee to get where I was going.

What we don't know here is whether that was the case with this woman, and why she was waiting for that particular spot. Regardless, the man had no reason to threaten her with his gun.

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Response to AngryOldDem (Reply #81)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 08:45 PM

145. I finally ended up with a disabled plate. I put it off as long as I could, and on a good day, I park

as far away from store as I can.

But it's nice to know on a bad one I can get closer up. I time my visits to when there are less people at the store.

Years ago the doctors wanted me to get one, but I figured it was like asking to be mugged. At least in the city I lived in then.



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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 01:33 PM

26. So the man "drove up to her side of the vehicle"...

..."pulled a gun and started waving it at her, threatening to kill her if she didn't move."

I'm confused. If he was able to pull up beside her then why wasn't he able to continue on his way?

Sounds like he was itching to brandish that weapon.

Sounds like he is a loony tune rager and really, really needs to have his weeapon taken away.

As for everyone who is saying she should be more considerate: the article does not say how long she waited. But it does say that as soon as she dialed 911 the man drove on.

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Response to ljm2002 (Reply #26)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 01:35 PM

29. Even if he had to wait 10 minutes, you don't threaten people's lives. It's a mall, not an ER.

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Response to ljm2002 (Reply #26)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 07:12 PM

119. Exactly

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 01:43 PM

32. Once upon a time...


... it was sufficient to roll down your window and yell "Hey asshole, move your car".

Then we progressed to pulling up along side and giving him/her a dirty look.

Finally, at some point we progressed to hand signals and drove past flipping him/her "the bird".

Today, we've moved up the food chain to brandishing.

Tomorrow, hey - just shoot her because she's costing me 3-4 minutes sitting here. I'm sure there's some extension of the castle doctrine that we could apply here.

Progress.

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Response to CincyDem (Reply #32)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 02:27 PM

47. WWRD




I really think what guides them these days is "what would Rushbo do?" .

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Response to lpbk2713 (Reply #47)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 02:43 PM

49. Toss back a couple Oxy's and blame it on BHO ?

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Response to CincyDem (Reply #49)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 06:13 PM

104. +1 nt

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 01:49 PM

34. This is horrifying on so many levels. nt

 

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 02:51 PM

52. I saw this on sons of anarchy

 

Only that time the one waiting drew the gun and aimed at the honker.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 02:53 PM

53. It is against the law to brandish a firearm. Criminals who do so should be prosecuted to the fullest

 

extent of the law.

It is a false equivalency for anyone to equate a criminal brandishing a firearm with firearm-owning Democrats and Independents, and anyone else owning a firearm, for self-defense or to deter the need for self-defense within the home.

Prosecute all criminals.

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Response to PeaceNikki (Reply #56)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 03:31 PM

76. Enhance the punishment for all criminals who commit crimes with firearms.

 

Obaining a CCW license is not a license to break the law.

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Response to PeaceNikki (Reply #56)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 03:43 PM

85. That's the whole crazy rationale for CCW.

It's a Wild West mentality.

You don't know who's carrying, so you're more vigilant of your own behavior. As I said upthread, what a way to live. Good manners at the point of a gun. What you don't know is, especially when driving these days, what will set anyone off. Going 5 miles below the speed limit? Passing someone? Trying to pull into a parking spot?

Guns, rather than making people more safe, make them more reckless and stupid. Combine that with being behind the wheel just makes the problem worse.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 03:28 PM

71. If only that woman had a gun

 

she could have "stood her ground".

Maybe she'll see the light now, and go buy a Glock.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 03:28 PM

72. Another law-abiding, reasonsible, responsible, legal gun owner...

... exercising his 2nd Amendment Right to terrorize unarmed, peaceful citizens with his Precious.

The NRA should feel quite proud that it makes sure this can happen almost anywhere, at any time.

Yeee haw!

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 03:37 PM

79. Yet another responsible gun owner.

 

They are so easy to spot.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 03:38 PM

80. Gun love

This cowardly creep sounds like a lot of NRA members that I have met- brandishing a gun to threaten and intimidate others. The NRA has made sure to change gun ownership laws for felons so that pedophiles, wife beaters and murderers are legally heavily armed. What makes anyone believe that gun nuts from the NRA have a problem with thier fellow cowards using guns to threaten and intimidate others? Right wing extremists live for the rush of unlawful gun use and brandishing- The NRA ought to use this guy as thier poster boy to show how gun nuts are being picked-on for attempting to terrorize thier neighbors with thier proudly owned gun collection. Poor little gun nuts are so unfairly treated for thier murderous, violent solutions to every day problems.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 03:38 PM

82. Having to wait for a parking space is "inconsiderate"?

Mightn't that be part of the problem right there?

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 03:42 PM

84. There needs to be a way to dispense judgement immediately on the spot.

In that circumstance the guy gets zapped to another planet.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 03:50 PM

89. The plot thickens

The news report at the link, he says he did not have a gun.

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Response to treestar (Reply #89)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 05:00 PM

95. Of course he said that.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 03:55 PM

90. I would hope after he pulled the gun she moved and then called 911

because of she didn't she is very lucky

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 05:07 PM

97. Well, it happened at Oak Park Mall.

 

There's never enough parking there.

Actually, I used to live a mile directly south of that mall, and from the middle of November until after New Year's I learned to reroute my driving patterns to avoid the traffic there.

Given how scarce parking can be there, it's a wonder this sort of nonsense hasn't happened before.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 05:58 PM

102. Gun owners are babies

they cry if they can't have their gun to play with and keep as a security blanket. They are emotionally unstable.

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Response to Post removed (Reply #103)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 06:14 PM

105. "Piss off!!!"?

I rest my case.

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Response to itsrobert (Reply #105)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 06:17 PM

107. What right do you have to call ALL gun owners emotionally unstable??

 

It's our constitutional right to own guns,and you have no right to insult millions of Americans calling them emotionally unstable.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #107)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 06:18 PM

108. The First Amendment

You seem upset. Don't shoot me!

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Response to itsrobert (Reply #108)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 06:22 PM

109. So you are okay with the first amedment, but not the second??

 




Hypocrisy at its finest!

Who said is going to shoot you? Have I ever said that or someone else said that? You need to be reported to the Amins for trolling and causing drama, which youre obviously doing.

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #109)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 06:26 PM

110. I am glad you calmed down

However the hypocrisy is yours, not mine. Friend.

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Response to itsrobert (Reply #110)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 06:30 PM

111. Im not your friend.

 

I legally own a gun and I don't apreaciate being called emotionally unstable just because I excersise my right. Like I said, I hope the administrators are seeing this. I'm pretty sure labeling people is a TOS violation.

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #111)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 06:36 PM

112. "Exercise my right"

Who talks like that?

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Response to itsrobert (Reply #112)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 06:40 PM

113. Anyone who gives a damn about their Constitutional rights.

 

Whichever those may be.

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #113)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 06:44 PM

114. No, I only hear NRA apologist

talk about "exercising my right"

What other rights do you exercise? How about the right to remain silent?

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Response to itsrobert (Reply #114)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 06:59 PM

116. The "right to remain silent"?

 

Just so you know, I have reported you to the Admn.
Labeling other DUrs as having mental problems is against the TOS.


DA.

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #116)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 08:16 PM

138. Jury results on this post

 

At Sat Apr 27, 2013, 04:47 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

The "right to remain silent"?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2765483

REASON FOR ALERT:

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate. (See <a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=aboutus#communitystandards" target="_blank">Community Standards</a>.)

ALERTER'S COMMENTS:

Over the top. Already had one pits removed. This one needs to go as well.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sat Apr 27, 2013, 05:05 PM, and the Jury voted 2-4 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT and said: casting asparagus on individuals that disagree with you is sophism and against the rules here
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: I think the correct play here is to delete this entire sub-thread.
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT and said: DarkAngel is name calling, and knows she will get a hide. Let her have another one. Check her transparency page. It's a doozy.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: One of her pits was removed? I'm surprised she can still post.
Robert's being a jerk. Good for DA for not putting up with it.

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 06:15 PM

106. I'm sure there are all kinds of hypothetical magical reasons...

.... why folks insist on holding up everything, often for quite a long time, so that they can avoid walking 100 feet. Most of them are about to walk a mile or more to wander the aisles in the store(s) and a very large number of them could use the walk either way.

Yeah I've read the "maybe they are disabled blah blah" I've watched enough of these folks to think that they are mostly selfish assholes who are perfectly willing to inconvenience others for their own convenience.

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Response to sendero (Reply #106)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 06:56 PM

115. So pulling a gun on someone rather than driving around them is ok with you? Is that what you are say

saying?

Someone waiting for a car to pull out is a selfish asshole and the person waiting behind them is justified in threatening them with a gun? Seriously?

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #115)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 07:21 PM

121. Amazing, isn't it?

This is the kind of mentality that is a very strong argument as to why under regulated private weapons ownership is a deadly danger to each and every person in this nation.

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #115)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 09:16 PM

147. Pulling a gun..

.. is never ok for any reason. Nor is blocking traffic for a minute so your dumb lazy ass won't have to walk a few more feet.

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Response to sendero (Reply #147)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 09:37 PM

150. Since traffic wasn't blocked, not sure what your point is.

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Response to sendero (Reply #106)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 07:15 PM

120. Did you miss reading the part ....

... where he was able to pull beside her in order to brandish the gun ....?

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Response to etherealtruth (Reply #120)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 07:23 PM

122. Even if the gunnut couldn't get around her...

... brandishing his gun would STILL be completely out of line and illegal.

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Response to 99Forever (Reply #122)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 07:31 PM

123. Of course it would

Brandishing a gun endangers the public safety period.

My response was a reaction to (what appears to be) attempts to blame the victim here ... I don't care if the woman parked diagonally across the lane and went shopping .... this nut with the gun needs to be prosecuted

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Response to etherealtruth (Reply #123)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 07:36 PM

125. Wasn't critisizing your response...

... in the least, just adding to it.

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Response to 99Forever (Reply #125)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 07:57 PM

129. I am cantankerous this evening!

In this case "it is me, not you!"

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Response to sendero (Reply #106)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 08:00 PM

130. Does any of that justify pointing a gun at her????

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Reply #130)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 09:21 PM

149. Exercising his rights

I guess.

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Response to itsrobert (Reply #149)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 10:01 PM

151. He has the right to intimidate people?

I think not.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Reply #151)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 10:16 PM

152. I was not serious on that one

thanks

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Response to sendero (Reply #106)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 08:02 PM

131. OH well then yeah, that explains why he pulled a gun.

It's perfectly OK in that case.

/sarcasm

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Response to sendero (Reply #106)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 10:53 PM

155. There's nothing in the OP that indicates the parking spot is near the entrance

or why the person there is waiting for it.

At my mall it's often difficult to find any parking space, so you wait when you see one opening up.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Sat Apr 27, 2013, 08:31 PM

143. This is a perfect example why many do not need to own guns and especially to have

A permit to carry. If he has a permit it needs to be revoked immediately. For all who shout they need to protect their families, how was he protecting his family in this instant. Just an example of a gun nut out of control.

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