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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsChic-Fil-A family values: Mother-Son Date Knight. (No, really.)
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[font size="4"]Chick-Fil-A really wants you to take your mom on a medieval date[/font]
Chick-Fil-A, the disturbingly delicious fast food chicken chain and protector of traditional family values, does not approve of things like gay marriage. They do, apparently, approve of sons and their moms dressing up like knights and queens and then going out on dates together, because they just instituted the infinitely disturbing Date Knight promotion.
Yes, at 49 of the company's DC-area restaurants (and select other locations), customers are encouraged actively encouraged to dress up in medieval garb and go on mother-son dates to Chik-Fil-A, obviously. From the actual press release sent by the actual company:"During this special medieval-themed evening, moms and their sons are encouraged to spend some time together while they enjoy dinner, great conversation and several special activities. Every Mother-Son pair will also receive a place mat with fun questions and topics to get the conversation started, and a take-home booklet that provides ideas for future dates and questions that both moms and their sons can ask each other.
[font size="1"]"...and a take-home booklet that provides ideas for future dates and questions that both moms and their sons can ask each other..."[/font]
tanyev
(42,554 posts)Cirque du So-What
(25,938 posts)This is wrong on several different levels.
Raine1967
(11,589 posts)(sorry -- just popped into my head)
Lifelong Protester
(8,421 posts)That is all I can say.
WolverineDG
(22,298 posts)but just what is wrong with encouraging parents & kids to do things together?
Bucky
(54,005 posts)The oedipal wrapping on the event, from the cosplay to the "date night" framing, along with the corporate manipulation of family dynamics, is almost intentionally disturbing. Anyone who can't see how this would be perceived by the public, or what an awkward framing this would have for any boy over the age of 8 (ads feature older teenage sons) has no business being in marketing.
It's a dud because it actively rubs up against social taboos. The fact that it comes from a sanctimonious Christian outfit is only the icing on a moderately creepy cake.
BethanyQuartz
(193 posts)Do they hire their marketers from within the family I wonder? Because this has all the quality of those local business commercials where a dumpy woman in heavy make-up tries to sell furniture or used cars or outdoor pools with a fixed grin on her face and psychotically cheerful yet wooden inflection. You just know when you see it that she's related to the owner.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Why the mom? Why not a girl their age they like?
Bucky
(54,005 posts)Or pitch it as "quality time" with moms and sons (daughters can stay home and scrub the toilet) instead of giving it a dating/fantasy dynamic. There's a dozen ways to re-brand this kind of promotion without taking jabs at social taboos.
For whatever ridiculous reasons, they chose not to. Freaky-deaky.
LuvNewcastle
(16,845 posts)MindPilot
(12,693 posts)but the terms MILF and Cougar immediately entered my head.
And given that most "medieval" costumes worn by females involve a lot of upthrusted cleavage, I suspect this is not so much about building the mother-son relationship.
Bucky
(54,005 posts)I'm not sure they aren't specifically toying with taboos here, although the value of doing so eludes me.
MADem
(135,425 posts)The costumes are all wrong! They need Grecian robes!
Perhaps what they were going for is the "Oedipus, Leave Mummy Alone!" Date Nights!
Or maybe they want those "Knights" to set off on a Crusade after eating their chicken sammich, and take back the Holy Land...or something....
htuttle
(23,738 posts)TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)My sons would rather die.
ZRT2209
(1,357 posts)L0oniX
(31,493 posts)hunter
(38,311 posts)As a teenager I was afraid to take her anywhere that might be a problem.
Both my mom and dad would sooner kill their own food than eat at a Chick-Fil-A.
KG
(28,751 posts)jmowreader
(50,557 posts)Apparently moms and sons dressing up in 21st century clothes is just too weird, but mom dressing like a serving wench and son like the hangman in Blazing Saddles is just fine.
I think a Fifties theme would be more appropriate here. Most guys can pull together a Fifties look with the clothes they have, women can do Fifties pretty easily, and the moral values of CFA are firmly rooted in 1951 so that's covered too.
But this mother-son date night thing...man, this takes the classic Russian insult "go fuck your mother" to a whole new level.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Voice for Peace
(13,141 posts)"Incest is a remarkably frequent theme in medieval literature; it occurs in a wide range of genres, including romances, saints's lives, and exempla. Historically, the Church in the later Middle Ages was very concerned about breaches of the complex laws against incest, which was defined very broadly at the time to cover family relationships outside the nuclear family and also spiritual relationships through baptism. Medieval writers accepted that incestuous desire was a widespread phenomenon among women as well as men." http://books.google.com/books/about/Incest_and_the_Medieval_Imagination.html?id=qfqWgZETHdQC
Logical
(22,457 posts)WolverineDG
(22,298 posts)if the company sponsoring this activity was identified as a "liberal" one, this would be ok on DU.
Bake
(21,977 posts)It's as creepy as the Father-Daughter Dances some schools have done ...
Bake
Logical
(22,457 posts)happened at the grade school father/daughter dance. Great memories of those nights.
Only a pervert would think anything was wrong with that.
Bake
(21,977 posts)Beyond that, not so much.
And I'm NOT a pervert, I assure you.
Bake
Niceguy1
(2,467 posts)Dinner dances are wonderful. My daughters jk-8 school has them and we never miss one.
I think the issue here isnthe politics of the restaurant. ..not the family bonding event.
itsrobert
(14,157 posts)Anything after 7 is a little weird.
Bucky
(54,005 posts)Again, family communication is a good thing. Guys who have good relationships with their mothers turn into more responsible citizens, on average. The taboo-tickling marketing of this event is what squicks me out.
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)Manifestor_of_Light
(21,046 posts)With overtones of incest. I am not surprised. Dysfunctional families often have emotional incest, where one of the parents is unavailable so the functioning spouse turns to a child (usually of the opposite sex) to meet their emotional needs for companionship, a person to confide in, etc. It happens a lot and it's rather sick.
I saw this book in a store many years ago and said "Well I'll be damned! This is the relationship I had with my father!"
The Emotional Incest Syndrome: What to do When a Parent's Love Rules Your Life.
http://www.amazon.com/Emotional-Incest-Syndrome-Parents-Rules/dp/055335275X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1367102787&sr=1-1&keywords=emotional+incest
Bucky
(54,005 posts)There's at least a discernible psychological manipulation going on with those Purity Balls (talk about your subliminal oxymorons!). Thinking about your dad on a date with a guy you like might well trigger some Pavlovian inhibitors that prevent teen pregnancy. What the Chic-Fil-Aers are going for by romanticizing the mother-son relationship is entirely beyond my grasp.
Progressive dog
(6,902 posts)until I saw the booklet part.
"...and a take-home booklet that provides ideas for future dates and questions that both moms and their sons can ask each other..."
Now that is really creepy.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)My grandmother used to say that and giggle.
840high
(17,196 posts)whistler162
(11,155 posts)disgusting!<SARCASM>
tblue37
(65,340 posts)purity ball, where he places the promise ring on her finger as she promises not to lose her virginity. (I guess she promises him because until he tranfers his property rights in it to her future husband, he has "ownership."
Fundie family values are a bit troubling sometimes.
Initech
(100,070 posts)And no this isn't to be confused with the 80's heavy metal band Motherboy.
LuvNewcastle
(16,845 posts)an older woman with you to Chick-Fil A on that day, pretend she's your mother, and make out with her in front of everybody.
datasuspect
(26,591 posts)JHB
(37,160 posts)But Father Maynard will be on hand to display the Holy Hand Grenade, with readings from the Book of Araments.
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)my sons "dates". It's just too damn creepy.