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PETRUS

(3,678 posts)
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 12:21 PM Apr 2013

Study suggests US companies use overseas workers to cut wages

Skills shortage? What skills shortage?

By Iain Thomson in San Francisco

An extensive study of the US labor market has shown that the skills shortage which technology firms are constantly complaining about is overstated and firms may instead be using overseas workers to drive down wage costs.

In a paper for the Economic Policy Institute by Hal Salzman of Rutgers University, Daniel Kuehn of American University and B. Lindsay Lowell of Georgetown University, the team studied the market for science, technology, engineering and math (STEM) careers.

If there was a shortage of IT jobs then you'd expect wages to rise, but in fact the team found wages in the field (on average) peaked in 2001 and have remained flat ever since, and in some cases have fallen over the last 14 years. The reason, according to the research, is that overseas workers are being recruited to keep wages low.

The researchers found that the US produces a surfeit of STEM graduates, but only half of them are hired. The rest of the jobs in the IT industry, primarily entry-level positions for the under 30s, are filled using foreign workers and may account for up to 50 per cent of new hires...

Read more: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/04/26/us_companies_foreign_comapies_study/

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Study suggests US companies use overseas workers to cut wages (Original Post) PETRUS Apr 2013 OP
Well, no shit. Brickbat Apr 2013 #1
Sums it up. BethanyQuartz Apr 2013 #11
Gee, what genius came to THAT conclusion? Myrina Apr 2013 #2
In other news, water is wet. n/t djean111 Apr 2013 #3
In other news, Moondog Apr 2013 #4
LINCOLN SHOT! TITANIC SINKS! BENEDICT RESIGNS! HughBeaumont Apr 2013 #5
headline of the day Enrique Apr 2013 #6
H-1B visas go to outsourcing firms Life Long Dem Apr 2013 #7
This required an extensive STUDY? magellan Apr 2013 #8
Sounds like the whole plausible deniability angle has run its course Populist_Prole Apr 2013 #9
Where do we get our pitchforks and torches again? Initech Apr 2013 #10
Walmart lawn and garden dept. Leslie Valley Apr 2013 #12
Study suggests brilliant round object illuminates Eastern sky each morning n/t IDemo Apr 2013 #13
I've seen that too! flying rabbit Apr 2013 #17
Remember when Bill Clinton sold us NAFTA? bvar22 Apr 2013 #14
I remember! I even remember an Obama proposed solution to Bill's mess that never made Dragonfli Apr 2013 #19
Noam Chomsky - Clinton's Vision - December 1, 1993 (free trade, NAFTA) antigop Apr 2013 #22
Ross Perot's version: bvar22 Apr 2013 #33
Yep, but many Dems don't want to hear anything about that ... It was a huge WTF when Clinton RKP5637 Apr 2013 #29
Quick! I need my smelling salts! And my fainting couch! Brigid Apr 2013 #15
I'm always amazed at the "revelations" they come up with in these studies. AnnieK401 Apr 2013 #16
In other news: bears shit in woods, pope is Catholic. DanTex Apr 2013 #18
The Pope shits in the woods, and bears are Catholic? DJ13 Apr 2013 #21
jathink????? librechik Apr 2013 #20
This is like saying water is wet. (end) Alva Goldbook Apr 2013 #23
So supply and demand doesn't work... ljm2002 Apr 2013 #24
Call 60 Mintues! kentuck Apr 2013 #25
This study. timdog44 Apr 2013 #26
Ray Charles could see that. MrSlayer Apr 2013 #27
Not to OP, but to the study! DUH!!! What else is new. We knew this years ago. n/t RKP5637 Apr 2013 #28
I can only hope our congress critters read this............. LeftInTX Apr 2013 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Apr 2013 #31
They needed a study to prove this? davidn3600 Apr 2013 #32
K&R woo me with science Apr 2013 #34
file that under "NO SHIT" Skittles Apr 2013 #35
No shit, Sherlock. Hekate Apr 2013 #36
Such coyness. Let's not jump to conclusions. woo me with science Apr 2013 #37
Du rec. Nt xchrom Apr 2013 #38
The actual study treestar Apr 2013 #39

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
2. Gee, what genius came to THAT conclusion?
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 12:23 PM
Apr 2013
I'd really like a job working up 'studies' like that. Seriously.
 

Life Long Dem

(8,582 posts)
7. H-1B visas go to outsourcing firms
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 12:38 PM
Apr 2013

"In fact, Senator Durbin went on to brand the top Indian IT companies as outsourcing firms. "These outsourcing firms like Infosys, Wipro, Tata and others -- Americans would be shocked to know that the H-1B visas are not going to Microsoft; they're going to these firms, largely in India, who are finding workers, engineers, who will work at low wages in the US for three years and pay a fee to Infosys or these companies," Durbin alleged."

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/top-us-senator-accuses-tcs-infosys-wipro-of-abusing-h1b-visas/387221-3.html

magellan

(13,257 posts)
8. This required an extensive STUDY?
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 12:43 PM
Apr 2013

Okay, I'm all in favor of empirical evidence gathering...but damn. I don't think this is going to change minds any more than finding out our economic policy is based on a math error.

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
9. Sounds like the whole plausible deniability angle has run its course
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 12:48 PM
Apr 2013

The corporatists power grab is now complete enough that they no longer need to lie to us by wrapping their labor arbitrage scam in flowery benign language; shortages and such.

They can now say it's just because they want cheap labor because that's just the way a plutocracy is supposed to work. In this manner, "Trust me" has become "Fuck you".

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
14. Remember when Bill Clinton sold us NAFTA?
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 01:01 PM
Apr 2013

[font size=3]"The American Worker can compete with any worker in the World!"[/font]
Remember that?


It would have been more honest to say,
[font size=3]"The American Worker will be FORCED to compete with Slave Labor Countries for their jobs."
Hahahahahahahaha!
Jokes on YOU, Suckers!
Hahahahahahaha!
[/font]


There is NO such thing as Free Trade
There is NO such thing as Free Markets.
There is NO Giant Invisible Hand.
The RICH made that shit up.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
33. Ross Perot's version:
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 04:45 PM
Apr 2013
&feature=player_embedded

Ross was RIGHT!
The Democratic party is TRUMPETING the Return of Manufacturing Jobs!!!
The part they aren't telling anyone is that these Returning Manufacturing Jobs are LOW Pay and NO benefits!!!

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!!
Thanks, Bill and the "Centrist" Democrats!


RKP5637

(67,108 posts)
29. Yep, but many Dems don't want to hear anything about that ... It was a huge WTF when Clinton
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 04:23 PM
Apr 2013

started down that path.

librechik

(30,674 posts)
20. jathink?????
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 03:15 PM
Apr 2013

wow. Thank goodness they did a study, cuz dozens of RW douchebags in broadcasting are unaware of that fact.

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
24. So supply and demand doesn't work...
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 04:12 PM
Apr 2013

...when there is an external source of cheap labor. Gosh, ya think?

I'm glad they did this study, but geez Louise, why oh why are our policy makers blind to what is so FUCKING OBVIOUS?????

Oh yeah. They BENEFIT from it. As long as the 1% benefits from this, the policy makers will continue to kowtow to them and give them more and more H1B visas, green cards, etc., because you know, "there just aren't enough Americans to do the job".

"The researchers found that the US produces a surfeit of STEM graduates, but only half of them are hired."

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
27. Ray Charles could see that.
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 04:17 PM
Apr 2013

And he's dead.

We have to stop allowing these sons of bitches to rip us off at every turn.

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