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eissa

(4,238 posts)
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 11:58 AM Apr 2013

An excellent response to Yglesias' asinine article

Here is the link to Matt Yglesias' corporate defense of slave labor, and the deaths in the Bangladeshi factory: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022755137

And here is a great rebuttal: http://ramsincanon.wordpress.com/2013/04/25/panglesias-let-the-people-choose-to-die-grisly-deaths-for-pay/

Imagine if enforceable laws existed that protected workers’ rights to act in concert to protect themselves from their employer, and the punishments were real. Remember, the Washington Aluminum workers weren’t unionized. They were just cold. The Bangladeshi workers stated that they had protested having to work in the unsafe building. It was out of terror of losing their jobs (and being immediately replaced by other half-starving Bangladeshis) that constructively coerced them to work in literally murderous conditions. With a basic and enforceable labor rights regime, the workers could have walked out without fear of losing their jobs, because the state would make replacing them prohibitively expensive.

In that imagined scenario, you don’t have the “problem” of keeping Bangladeshis from “getting cash”; you just prohibit the employer (who, here, is ultimately a transnational corporation of immense size and resources) from exploiting the poverty of the workforce to coerce workers to work in conditions they know are unsafe. Yglesias’s Pangloss-like (Panglesias?) arguments (that assumes, fantastically, that Bangladeshis have “chosen” to have no decent workplace safety or labor rights regime, in exchange for $38 a month) evaporate.

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An excellent response to Yglesias' asinine article (Original Post) eissa Apr 2013 OP
k&r LiberalAndProud Apr 2013 #1
k&r for labor. n/t Laelth Apr 2013 #2
Yglesias made a big boo boo Enrique Apr 2013 #3
The backlash was pretty overwhelming eissa Apr 2013 #4
"I surrender" -- what a cowardly cop-out. MotherPetrie Apr 2013 #5
Excellent rebuttal! Where it says: freshwest Apr 2013 #6
He's feeling the heat! Now he posts this a quarter of the way down: freshwest Apr 2013 #7

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
3. Yglesias made a big boo boo
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 12:27 PM
Apr 2013

he non-apologized for the column. Even if it was a real apology, it won't help him. We all know there are people that think the way he did in the column, now everyone knows Matt Yglesias is one of them. Apologizing won't change that.

https://twitter.com/mattyglesias

I surrender—that post on Bangladesh was in poor taste

eissa

(4,238 posts)
4. The backlash was pretty overwhelming
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 12:32 PM
Apr 2013

Rightly so, of course, especially now that the death toll has climbed to over 300 (and counting.)

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
6. Excellent rebuttal! Where it says:
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 03:10 PM
Apr 2013

'...forced to drift into abstractions to avoid dealing with actual human conditions...'

Very tired of this - they do it to us at home as well, but their total disregard for human beings in other countries, if that's not racism, I don't know what it is.

The reduction of human labor to a commodity to be traded is pure evil. The blind eyes to a society that keeps humans imprisoned in poverty, calling it free trade and other such euphemisms, is just plain sick.

We had free trade when we had the slave trade, didn't we? Free for who, when they weren't free?

Only the masters, of whom the right wingers are running their mouths for night and day. It's a disgrace to hear this out of the mouth of a person who dares to call themselves an American. Dead presidents and civil rights leaders are spinning in their graves that these oligarch apologists get so much attention.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
7. He's feeling the heat! Now he posts this a quarter of the way down:
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 03:14 PM
Apr 2013

Under the title of Further Thoughts on the Bangladesh Factory...

http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox.html

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