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cali

(114,904 posts)
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 08:39 AM Apr 2013

Big brands rejected Bangladesh factory safety plan

As Bangladesh reels from the deaths of hundreds of garment workers in a building collapse, the refusal of global retailers to pay for strict nationwide factory inspections is bringing renewed scrutiny to an industry that has profited from a country notorious for its hazardous workplaces and subsistence level wages.

After a factory fire killed 112 garment workers in November, clothing brands and retailers continued to reject a union-sponsored proposal to improve safety throughout Bangladesh's $20 billion garment industry. Instead, companies expanded a patchwork system of private audits and training that labor groups say improves very little in a country where official inspections are lax and factory owners have close relations with the government.

In the meantime, the number of deaths and injuries has mounted. In the five months since last year's deadly blaze at Tazreen Fashions Ltd., there were 40 other fires in Bangladeshi factories, killing nine workers and injuring more than 660, according to a labor organization tied to the AFL-CIO umbrella group of American unions.

Wednesday's collapse of the Rana Plaza building that killed more than 300 people is the worst disaster to hit Bangladesh's fast-growing and politically powerful garment industry. For those working to overhaul conditions for workers who are paid as little as $38 a month, it is a grim reminder that corporate social responsibility programs are failing to deliver on lofty promises.

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http://news.yahoo.com/big-brands-rejected-bangladesh-factory-safety-plan-122206229.html

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Big brands rejected Bangladesh factory safety plan (Original Post) cali Apr 2013 OP
Why should corporations care about dispensable brown people malaise Apr 2013 #1
yes, it's fuck poor people cali Apr 2013 #2
Yep but they're the elites and they grease the palms of their cronies - the political malaise Apr 2013 #3
yes it is an international racket. thanks for responding to the op cali Apr 2013 #4
Not really - there hae been a few threads and some folks have responded malaise Apr 2013 #5
I am definitely interested and want this put in front of as many eyes as possible Cirque du So-What Apr 2013 #10
People are rarely interested in these kinds of tragedies, because it raises uncomfortable Brickbat Apr 2013 #15
I don't think people are uninterested. redqueen Apr 2013 #20
"Corporate social responsibility" is an oxymoron n/t Fumesucker Apr 2013 #6
no, it's not. it's tiny and it needs to grow, but it exists cali Apr 2013 #8
The very purpose of a corporation is to avoid personal responsibility Fumesucker Apr 2013 #12
there are socially responsible and sustainable corporations cali Apr 2013 #13
I have a picture of an actual Wolf licking my face Fumesucker Apr 2013 #14
This. redqueen Apr 2013 #21
How about some congressional hearings leftynyc Apr 2013 #7
I was thinking the same thing cali Apr 2013 #9
Yes, excellent leftynyc Apr 2013 #11
The numbers are damning. LiberalAndProud Apr 2013 #16
He's saying they won't do anything until they're forced to. redqueen Apr 2013 #18
Who said I was surprised? LiberalAndProud Apr 2013 #19
Corporations and owners are never held accountable. redqueen Apr 2013 #17
Is there any way to find out exactly which brands they were making? cbdo2007 Apr 2013 #22
One brand is for sure a Canadian brand laundry_queen Apr 2013 #23

malaise

(268,997 posts)
1. Why should corporations care about dispensable brown people
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 08:41 AM
Apr 2013

They don't even care about the dispensable white people in their own countries.

Only money counts! Only markets count! Profit by any means. Fuck poor people!!

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
2. yes, it's fuck poor people
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 08:46 AM
Apr 2013

of any color. Many of the exploiters in the Bangladesh factory collapse are brown people- the Bangladeshi factory owners.

malaise

(268,997 posts)
3. Yep but they're the elites and they grease the palms of their cronies - the political
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 09:13 AM
Apr 2013

class - at home and abroad.

It's one international racket - of the markets, for the markets, by the markets and until we the people are prepared to dedicate time, energy and organization to fight back, the scum of the earth will proceed with their greed, corruption and indifference to everything but money.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
4. yes it is an international racket. thanks for responding to the op
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 09:14 AM
Apr 2013

I'm finding it a bit depressing that DUers are so uninterested in this horrific tragedy.

malaise

(268,997 posts)
5. Not really - there hae been a few threads and some folks have responded
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 09:17 AM
Apr 2013

This is the worst disaster in Bangladesh but there have been more than a few before and there is no reason why those poor people were forced to enter that cracked building.
The owners should be sent to prison for life.

Cirque du So-What

(25,938 posts)
10. I am definitely interested and want this put in front of as many eyes as possible
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 09:26 AM
Apr 2013

I don't want to play any role in driving this bloody business. I'm open to suggestions on the best methods of coercing retailers to act more responsibly, but we must remember that we're dealing with sociopaths who don't give a flying fig about the lives of people anywhere in the world who contribute to their bottom line.

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
15. People are rarely interested in these kinds of tragedies, because it raises uncomfortable
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 10:12 AM
Apr 2013

questions about what we buy and why, and for some reason that's a painful discussion for many. People jump in on the Foxcomm stuff because it's easy to boast "I don't even HAVE an iPhone!" when the fact that if you own something that says "Made in China," or a host of other countries, there is no guarantee about the conditions the item was made in, and very little way to check it.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
20. I don't think people are uninterested.
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 10:55 AM
Apr 2013

If they're like me they just feel hopeless.

The unions are dying here. Our own government is failing to regulate businesses here.

What hope do we have that another government will regulate businesses elsewhere?

This is about cheap clothes. People need clothes, and many of them can barely afford them.

We can't even get affluent people here to stop buying electronic shit they DON'T need every time a new bell or whistle comes out.

So yeah. Hopeless.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
12. The very purpose of a corporation is to avoid personal responsibility
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 09:30 AM
Apr 2013

That's why you set up a corporation in the first place, to protect your own ass(ets).



 

cali

(114,904 posts)
13. there are socially responsible and sustainable corporations
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 09:38 AM
Apr 2013

you may not want to cop to that FACT but it's still a fact.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
14. I have a picture of an actual Wolf licking my face
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 09:43 AM
Apr 2013

Right after I fed it a pint of Haagen Dazs vanilla.

Just because some Wolves have been somewhat acclimated to humans under some conditions doesn't mean they aren't Wolves.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
21. This.
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 10:58 AM
Apr 2013

However responsible some corporations are, this is why we need strict regulations and enforcement.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
7. How about some congressional hearings
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 09:21 AM
Apr 2013

on this? Haul the CEO's from these big brands and let them explain why the people of Bangladesh don't matter.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
9. I was thinking the same thing
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 09:24 AM
Apr 2013

I'd also like to see any tax breaks those companies may have, repealed or revoked.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
11. Yes, excellent
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 09:28 AM
Apr 2013

Embarrassment probably wouldn't be enough for these cretins - hitting them in the wallet is the only thing they truly understand and let the congresspeople who support these tax breaks explain themselves. My grandmas (may they rest in peace) never let me forget about the Triangle Shirt Factory.

LiberalAndProud

(12,799 posts)
16. The numbers are damning.
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 10:25 AM
Apr 2013

$1 trillion annual sales, and a $500,000 annual investment is "too costly.

Then there is this:

H&M also did not sign on to the proposal because it believes factories and local government in Bangladesh should be taking on the responsibility, Pierre Börjesson, manager of sustainability and social issues, told AP in December.


Right. Because we know these corporate folks are all about government regulation, right?

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
17. Corporations and owners are never held accountable.
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 10:40 AM
Apr 2013

We learned this in New York and formed the Committee on Public Safety, got strict legislation passed, etc.



cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
22. Is there any way to find out exactly which brands they were making?
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 12:17 PM
Apr 2013

I know there was some speculation yesterday and some names thrown out of brands they know were made in Bangladesh, but how can we find out which ones specifically are using these unsafe conditions??

laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
23. One brand is for sure a Canadian brand
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 01:51 PM
Apr 2013

it's been on the news here in Canada constantly - "Joe Fresh" which is kind of a spin off of Loblaws (a large discount grocery chain). There's actually a picture of a Joe Fresh item in the rubble. There's also some clothes chain in the UK involved...but I forget the name. Here's just one of the many stories in the news: (I just noticed if you read down it has a few of the companies involved in this factory, including Walmart and the UK store)

http://www.ctvnews.ca/business/joe-fresh-customers-react-to-news-of-disaster-at-bangladesh-factory-1.1254804

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