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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo exciting to have a library dedicating to a real genuine war criminal!!
and a president to pay his respects to it.Octafish
(55,745 posts)...war criminals, mass murderers, war mongers, gangsters, banksters and just about everyone since Pruneface was a pup who used their positions to enrich themselves and their cronies at the expense of the American people.
For instance: WikiLeaks Stratfor Dump Exposes Continued Secret Government Warmongering
It's remarkable how few seem to care for this important topic these days, eh G_j? It's not surprising to see so many who consistently defend them.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)just a few years ago. I know I would have done so, and will always rec a reminder of the crimes we used to find so important. The victims are still dead, the tortured have still received no justice, our gulags are still up and running.
I remember how we were told to hold off on 'impeachment' until we won the WH. Then it was 'until we hold all three branches of government'. Then it was 'we don't have enough of a majority'.
There has been no more graphic demonstration of 'moving the goalposts' as the issue of the Bush War Crimes. We are now at the 'let's just move forward' stage.
I still have hopes that one day, as has happened in other countries where war criminals were protected, maybe decades from now, as in some Latin American countries, we will find our soul again and even if it is a little late for the victims and/or criminals, justice will finally be served. Until that happens, I can't see this country achieving much in the way of the potential it surely has.
G_j
(40,367 posts)to bring attention to these crimes. I thought maybe that darkness would lift enough to face the truth in the light
of day. It now seems darker than ever.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)and I have to remind myself that before the dawn of many of the most historical events, there were long periods of darkness.
We will have to wait for some real leadership, for people to come along who realize that ignoring the law, ignoring major crimes, is BAD for America. We see an example today when this country was told by an African nation to 'clean up your own house' before we go around telling others what to do.
The celebration of a war criminal this past week did not go unnoticed around the world.
We have lost any moral authority we had to point fingers anywhere. Right wingers used to tell me we were so great we didn't have to worry what anyone else in the world thought about us.
Hopefully soon, leaders will emerge who see the threat to this nation of condoning our own war crimes, while struggling to get others to listen to our hypocritical sermons to others.
I'm still hoping!
Octafish
(55,745 posts)South Africa had the Truth and Reconciliation confessions, but I prefer the way the people of Argentina and Chile made things right: Identify, Try and Punish the Guilty. It's how to restore Justice.
G_j
(40,367 posts)that this report just came out ..
http://m.democracynow.org/stories/13588
After Obama Shuns Probe, Bipartisan Panel Finds "Indisputable" Evidence U.S. Tortured Under Bush
An independent bipartisan task force has concluded that it is "indisputable" the United States engaged in torture and the George W. Bush administration bore responsibility. The 11-member Task Force on Detainee Treatment was convened by The Constitution Project after President Obama chose not to support a national commission to investigate the counterterrorism programs. It was co-chaired by Asa Hutchinson, a former Republican congressman from Arkansas, NRA consultant and undersecretary of the Department of Homeland Security under President George W. Bush. The report concludes that never before in U.S. history had there been "the kind of considered and detailed discussions that occurred after 9/11 directly involving a president and his top advisers on the wisdom, propriety and legality of inflicting pain and torment on some detainees in our custody." While the report focused largely on the Bush administration after 9/11, it also criticizes a lack of transparency under Obama. We speak with Laura Pitter, counterterrorism adviser at Human Rights Watch. [includes rush transcript]
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)that there are people working on this despite the president's attempt to just 'move forward'.
We should never stop trying and sooner or later there will be justice.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)It appears that individuals also must make the choice:
"Which will it be? A carpet of gold or a carpet of bombs?"
G_j
(40,367 posts)to witness all the living US presidents and the media honoring the Bush crime dynasty.
there may be not be a better symbol of the present state of things..
Octafish
(55,745 posts)One is not like the rest.
I love that pic. The one with integrity
stands alone.
democrank
(11,094 posts)War criminal indeed.
bahrbearian
(13,466 posts)Poll_Blind
(23,864 posts)You just have to rock back on your heels for a moment and...appreciate the Americana.
PB