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http://www.kentucky.com/2013/04/23/2612602/mystery-horse-impregnates-five.html#storylink=omni_popular#wgt=pop<snip>
CENTERVILLE As bettors and the general public study equine bloodlines to prep for their possible Kentucky Derby wagers, Bourbon County horse owner Marilyn Montavon is trying to solve a mystery that could cost her thousands of dollars.
On April 15, tax-filing deadline day, two new dependents showed up on her farm in the form of two foals a colt born to the mare Goldie and a filly born to Mert.
The babies were a surprise to Montavon because she has no studs on her farm, and she hadn't bred the horses.
Then she noticed another newcomer making use of her pasture: a 3-year-old stud horse that she had not seen before. He'd apparently been busy, because at least five other mares were pregnant.
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Cirque du So-What
(25,933 posts)that the stud in question goes by the name of 'Sneaky Pete.'
babylonsister
(171,059 posts)hootinholler
(26,449 posts)Sheldon Cooper
(3,724 posts)But if you are raising thoroughbreds in KY horse country, how do you NOT know you have an extra horse? Especially since the gestation period is 11 months? That stallion has been around for at least a year - how could she have missed it?
I read the article and I still don't understand her excuse.
Walk away
(9,494 posts)a little nookie! My Thoroughbred used to try to convince the other horses to go for a run with him by jumping in and out of his paddock and showing them how it's done. None of the others even tried.
He might have been in for a visit and back home in his barn a few days later or even that night.
Sheldon Cooper
(3,724 posts)If a male could have jumped the fence to visit the females, and then returned back to his own place later, then it could very well be a neighboring horse, rather than an abandoned one. If they do the DNA testing, they may be able to figure out who the foal daddy is.
kentuck
(111,089 posts)...galloping thru the meadows at night, leaping fences and trees, to get what he most enjoys...
Sheldon Cooper
(3,724 posts)Secretariat was one of a kind, and this is coming from someone who knows squat about horses. Although I did read the Seabiscuit book.
randome
(34,845 posts)LWolf
(46,179 posts)She pays someone to take care of the horses. She doesn't care for them herself. I'd hope, if someone were taking care of my horses, that they would know how many I had and what they looked like. That they'd know the difference between a stud, a mare, and a gelding.
I also wonder why it wasn't discovered earlier. Do they not catch these horses up periodically for worming, vaccination, and hoof care?
Sheldon Cooper
(3,724 posts)It sounds like both she and the caretaker dropped the ball on this. The caretaker should have been more aware of what the animals were getting up to, and overall she should have been a more involved owner.
Heather MC
(8,084 posts)Seabiscuit you are NOT the father.
And the audience screams
omggg I just knew that horse was the baby daddy.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)Back in the 70s. It started with my mare, who seemed a bit too rotund; we had her vet checked and she was in foal. At the time, the place I boarded her said it must have happened before we got there. The eventual foaling proved that wrong. That, and the 2 other foals that were born at about the same time to mares in the same pasture.
It wasn't a mystery for long. There were some weaned foals pastured with these mares. The weanling colts were, at some point, pulled out for castrating.
One of them was a little older than the rest, and precocious. His earlier foaling date had slipped their minds.
It wasn't a mystery stud that just showed up and managed to stay invisible for a year.
Sheldon Cooper
(3,724 posts)and saw the little newborn. She just thought her horse was getting fatter, and the thought of her being pregnant never crossed my friend's mind. They never found the guilty party, either - it remains a complete mystery to this day, 30 years later.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,326 posts)Just kidding. I think I can pick up some of it. I speak a little horse-y from watching Gunsmoke, The Rifleman and Bonanza.
Orrex
(63,208 posts)I hope that he has a stable job.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)Like that's your mane function wither or not we try to rein you in. You curry no favor with us, not a bit.
kentuck
(111,089 posts)nice play on words, Jackpine..
Orrex
(63,208 posts)hootinholler
(26,449 posts)Bosonic
(3,746 posts)dembotoz
(16,802 posts)Orrex
(63,208 posts)Quick! Before these horses rampage across the countryside and start eating lawyers on toilets!
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)We do know that this horse is Co-owned by Paul Ryan and Eric Cantor however they couldnt be found at the time of this photograph
Renew Deal
(81,856 posts)MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)kentuck
(111,089 posts)MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)hootinholler
(26,449 posts)There's a bourbon plant?
Orrex
(63,208 posts)I know nothing about the economic aspect of horse breeding, so perhaps this is obvious, but why will this cost the owner thousands of dollars? Do these births reduce the economic value of subsequent "pure" births? If so, then how?
Thanks!
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)Any female mammal is only good for so many births in its lifetime.
Orrex
(63,208 posts)I thought that it was a matter of compromised purity, or whatever, but what you're describing makes perfect sense.
bklyncowgirl
(7,960 posts)Unless they can find out who the abandoned stallion is and it turns out he's a registered Thoroughbred, those babies will not be eligible to race. That reduces their value and also increases the amount of time that she'll have to hold on to them and feed them before she can sell them at something that comes close to breaking even.
If they were Thoroughbreds, she could send them to one of the yearling auctions where Thoroughbred breeders send potential race horses. As grade horses, which basicly is what you call an equine mutt, they may make very fine riding or show horses but you won't know that until you start to train them at about age three. That's three years of feed, farrier and vet bills and unless she can do the job herself, training fees.
Now, she seems to be someone who loves her horses, so sending the foals to slaughter will probably not be an option so she's right--this will cost her.
Bearing an unregistered foal will not reduce the mare's future breeding potential.
If I was her I'd fire the caretaker--and sue the stallion's owner if he or she can be found.
randome
(34,845 posts)Orrex
(63,208 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,703 posts)bklyncowgirl
(7,960 posts)We are talking about thousands of dollars and a very high likelihood of failure.
Poll_Blind
(23,864 posts)PB