Zubeidat Tsarnaeva: "My boy was killed really cruelly!" Well, sorry, Mom ...

[11 Bravo]

but shit happens. The innocent people who suffered the carnage inflicted by your "loving boy" could probably tell you a thing or two about cruelty. Given a choice, some of them might have even preferred to catch a round in the 10 ring over looking down to see that they were missing a limb or two via traumatic amputation.

[treestar]

1. Did she really say that?

She must know her other boy was involved, to say the least.

What about the 8 year old's other.

This woman sounds worse and worse. She's not a criminal like her sons, but she's no angel.

[11 Bravo]

4. Verbatim. I couldn't get the link to work, but it's on CNN - not a quote - it's in her own voice.

[UnrepentantLiberal]

32. She's Ma Barker.

[FarCenter]

2. Being run over and dragged by your younger brother in a SUV is really cruel.

[Hekate]

21. That was my first thought

Sorry your life sucks, lady. Now please grieve quietly while the amputees and bereaved try to retrieve what they can of their lives.

[name not needed]

58. So is having both your legs blown off.

[El Progreso]

3. I wouldn't expect a mom to react coldly

It's his mom. Her emotions and our emotions are different.

A person with empathy would not antagonize her or make fun of her no matter how many times she said her son was innocent and good and killed cruelly. Even if he was a terrorist, which he was.

[11 Bravo]

18. When she utters her first word of concern for the lives shatterred or ended by her "loving boy" ...

I'll start trying to crank up the old empathy.

[WI_DEM]

5. Cry me a river

[11 Bravo]

9. Ask and ye shall receive:

[Nuclear Unicorn]

6. I'm finding it hard to imagine a way of being killed that isn't cruel.

[eissa]

7. Perhaps if your sub-human POS

son hadn't murdered four people, maimed countless others, and engaged in a firefight with law enforcement, he wouldn't have met such a fate. I loathe this woman as much as I do her disgusting spawn.

[TheCowsCameHome]

8. Occupational hazard, Mom.

He should have found something less dangerous.

[RedCappedBandit]

10. I mean, it's her son.

[LisaL]

11. Well, considering her younger son is accused of running over her older son, maybe

she should have a talk with a younger one.

[Fawke Em]

61. You know... I've seen the death photo and I

don't see any indication he was hit and dragged.

This thread probably isn't the place for this, but it's just something I noticed.

[Rex]

12. His younger brother ran him over in a SUV while tossing bombs out the window at cops.

I am sure the mom doesn't want to actually believe she raised two monsters. Guess what mom, you raised two monsters. Sorry, but life ain't even close to fair.

[Quantess]

13. Just let her grieve and ignore her.

She's got a lot to be brokenhearted about.

[eissa]

14. It would be easier to ignore her

if she would just shut the fuck up. She should take a lesson from her daughters -- put out a statement expressing condolences for the loss of life, ask for privacy, and call it a day. I get that she's a grieving mom, but she's hurting her family more by saying such outrageous things.

[smirkymonkey]

20. +1000

Well put.

[Mugu]

44. Hear, hear! n/t

[frogmarch]

15. She's grieving.

Lashing out is a coping mechanism.

[LisaL]

16. Unfortunately she is lashing out to the press.

[frogmarch]

19. Yes, it is unfortunate.

One of her friends or family members should try to make her stop.

[Raine]

29. She needs to lash out in private not in public, she's bringing additional pain to

her sons' suffering victims.

[frogmarch]

33. I agree. nt

[Yo_Mama]

17. The woman's half demented from grief

I'm not saying she's a wonderful human being, but the other day she claimed to a reporter that her oldest son wasn't dead - that it was someone else.

She doesn't believe they did the bombings. She's being selectively quoted to make it appear that she's some sort of a violent Islamist, when it's very clear that she is shocked by the crime and unable to rationally come to grips with the fact that her sons did it.

[nadinbrzezinski]

23. THIS

[Poll_Blind]

24. ^ This. nt

PB

[xmas74]

47. This.

It would take some time to admit to yourself that your sons had done something that heinous. And I wouldn't be surprised if the press cherry picked quotes.

She needs time, away from the press. She needs her daughters to come take her away and hide her for a bit.

[gollygee]

48. I agree

Imagine being her right now. Her sons did something so horrible, something that would make you question everything about how you parented your children. One of her sons died horribly, and the other is seriously injured and is going to have a very hard road ahead of him. It's not surprising to me that she's having a hard time keeping herself together.

[lastlib]

54. (Okay, now explain the other half.......)

[nadinbrzezinski]

22. so sue me

But i feel empathy for all involved...this includesTsanaev's family.

Empathy is what makes us human atmany levels she lost a son.

And yes...i expect some to not understand, even misrepresent, this

[madinmaryland]

31. No need to sue you. The woman lost one son and is losing the other.

Thank you for your comments. It appears a lot of DUer's don't understand empathy.

[Common Sense Party]

25. Mommy Dearest needs to go visit some of the hospitalized bomb victims,

some of the children missing limbs, and ask them about 'cruelty.'

[DonViejo]

36. She can't. If she shows up here she's going to be arrested...

for liberating $1,600 worth of designer dresses from Lord & Taylor and fleeing the Court's jurisdiction.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022743653

[Common Sense Party]

46. I thought I heard on the radio today that she and Dad are coming here at the FBI's request. nt

[DonViejo]

50. You may have, in which case the Feds can over rule a local judge and...

a warrant for her arrest. I guess.

[Common Sense Party]

53. Well, with this story, I have just about given up on believing anything as first

reported. It seems like every "news" source is making stuff up and then backtracking when it's shown to be nonsense.

But IF it's true that she's coming here, I imagine she requested some intervention first to have the charges dropped on the local crime.

[SoCalDem]

26. Killed very cruelly by your OTHER son

had he not been run over/dragged by his baby bro, he would have made it to a hospital....ALIVE

[kestrel91316]

27. Oh, cry me a river, you stoopit b----.

[BeyondGeography]

28. Grifter skipped town on stolen dresses

Can't even visit her survivng son without getting arrested first. Tsarnaeva family values.

[Mopar151]

30. I feel for the whole Tsarnev family - except her and Tamerlan

My personal beleif is that she was "radicalized" by her shoplifting arrest (with subsequent denial of citizenship), and Tam's domestic violence charge having similar consequences.
I know my scheming Russians (& otherwise), and nothing makes them snake-eyed mean like having the smallest little ploy thwarted.

Those wishing a fully domestic take on this are invited to learn the history of the Barker gang.

[Blue_Tires]

34. BREAKING NEWS -- MOMS ARE GONNA MOM

[Raven]

49. Well, aside from the fact that this is an absurd statement, this Mom

obviously didn't Mom very well, did she?

[Blue_Tires]

60. I'm just saying that hypothetically

if *I* had done something really heinous, my mother would have some sort of extreme denial complex, and continue to defend my innocence to her dying day...Some mothers are just like that...

[Jamastiene]

35. So were his victims.

And your "boy" was killed "really cruelly" by your OTHER "boy."

[hatrack]

37. Yeah, sorry, bomb a race, murder a cop and then throw down on a whole bunch more of them . . .

Then have your kid brother run over you in a carjacked SUV and, well, things are not going to end well . . . .

[Captain Stern]

38. This is one of those "walk a mile in their shoes" things.

This woman has just found out that one of her sons is dead, and that the other is in the hospital with serious injuries. She's also found out that her sons are murderers.

That's a serious heap of baggage to get dumped on a person all at once, so maybe she deserves some time before we all flex our internet muscles at her and tell her what a pos she is.

[Phillip McCleod]

39. otoh..

..

*nah*

[arthritisR_US]

40. When she emerges from her narcissistic caccoon

she's in for a rude awakening

[laundry_queen]

55. That's exactly what she is: a narcissist

In fact, I would wager a giant bet, that along with shoplifting as one sign, she probably never showed her sons any empathy, hence why they were unable to show any towards their victims. This is typical narcissistic parent MO. Narcissistic parents will blame anyone and everyone else for their problems and for their kids' problems. They take responsibility for nothing. They make it all about themselves and their victimization, and become attention you-know-whats. Normal human beings with empathy and a conscience will express empathy for the victims even if they don't believe their kids did it.

I grew up with narcissistic parents, and have done a lot of reading about it. My guess is that the older son was the 'favorite' which is why she's lashing out. Usually the favorite can do no wrong. Often the favorite becomes exactly like the parent - narcissistic and lacking in empathy. The family becomes dysfunctional with people in the immediate and extended family 'choosing sides' (sound familiar in this case?) around the narcissist's 'favorite'. Often, siblings are forced to admire and 'obey' the favorite or risk punishment or even banishment in the family. It completely explains this strange family's dynamic. And every time the mother opens her mouth, it further solidifies my opinion.

Edited for spelling - since when does Microsoft auto correct on message boards, wtf?

[boguspotus]

57. Good Post!

Makes a lot of sense - Thanks.

[Mopar151]

59. I agree - see post #30, above

I've seen a narcisst or 3 go pretty much bugfuck when thwarted - and then scheme, plot, and manipulate some more. I've paid the price for thwarting a scheming Russian narcissist and his "crew" - losing the job where I dared hold them to the rules for everyone else.

[OhioChick]

41. She should STFU

Her "angel" ran over and killed the other. This after both monsters killed several and maimed over 170 innocent people.

[Raven]

42. Mom, it is alleged that one of your sons set a bomb down next to an 8 year old

boy and caused it to detonate. I would call that a cruel death. It might be a good idea if you shut your mouth and gave some substantial thought and prayer to the reasons why one of your sons would do that and what part you may have had in raising such a person.

[octothorpe]

43. Blah. Time to ignore here. Either she's in denial and lashing out due to grief, or she's a crazy

cold hearted lady. Either way, it doesn't serve any purpose to pay her any attention.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

45. That's because Jokar is a psychopath

You raised a great kid there, mommy.

[MichiganVote]

51. How sad that the families of the deceased and wounded have to listen to this.

[rightsideout]

52. We'll Mom

You apparently weren't around to give your younger son driving lessons.

I agree. If she wants to see cruelty she should go to the hospital to see the carnage her sons left behind.

[customerserviceguy]

56. From what I've seen

this whole family is batshit crazy, no wonder they produced these two asshats.

Can the media finally decide that their fifteen minutes of fame is up, and go back to ignoring their rants?