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PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 05:53 PM Apr 2013

Tsarnaev reportedly fell under radical influences, including the batshit CT site INFOWARS

http://deadspin.com/report-boston-bombing-suspect-was-a-9-11-truther-478631719?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_facebook&utm_source=deadspin_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

Report: Boston Bombing Suspect Was A 9/11 Truther

The bulk of the AP's story is constructed from interviews with Ruslan Tsarni—one of Dzhokhar and Tamerlan's uncles—and Tamerlan's ex-brother-in-law, Elmirza Khozhugov. Both tell the AP stories about a mysterious man named Misha, who they say befriended Tamerlan and turned him toward a very strict strain of Islam. Tamerlan reportedly fell under other radical influences, though, and one of those happened to be the batshit conspiracy-theorist website known as Infowars:

Tamerlan took an interest in Infowars, a conspiracy theory website. Khozhugov said Tamerlan was interested in finding a copy of "The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion," a piece of anti-Semitic literature claiming a Jewish plot to take over the world.

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The people behind Infowars are the same crazy people who flood internet message boards with conspiracy theories about how 9/11 was a "false flag" operation perpetrated by the government. Look, they even did the same thing in the aftermath of the marathon bombings.

The irony here is almost unfathomable. Try wrapping your mind around the fact that a collection of conspiracy loons who believe that every major terrorist attack is an inside job may have helped to inspire an actual terrorist attack carried out by actual terrorists. I suppose there can only be one explanation–courtesy Deadspin pal Jeb Lund: Jeb Lund @Mobute

.@infowars Is Infowars a false-flag website designed to collect fans like Tamerlan Tsarnaev to discredit Infowars?


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Tsarnaev reportedly fell under radical influences, including the batshit CT site INFOWARS (Original Post) PeaceNikki Apr 2013 OP
Amazing. Just so damn ... interesting. 11cents Apr 2013 #1
I like it... "a Moebius strip of whackjobbery" PeaceNikki Apr 2013 #2
I know! Brain hurts. 11cents Apr 2013 #4
Although an infowars sleeper cell is relatively believable. PeaceNikki Apr 2013 #5
A link below to the original AP article Tx4obama Apr 2013 #3
Thanks. The Gawker Media take on it usually interests me. The commenters are usually good. Like this PeaceNikki Apr 2013 #6
Indeed, Jones says that this is a typical attempt .... 11cents Apr 2013 #7
"It's the government trying to make me look bad" tarheelsunc Apr 2013 #8
was that a real quote? it's impossible to tell.. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #16
LOL, I know what you mean, but I just made that up! eom tarheelsunc Apr 2013 #18
So was Loughner. One wonders if there is a profile. n/t Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #9
No shit? PeaceNikki Apr 2013 #10
It seems a Chicken-or-Egg prospect Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #11
Food for thought, indeed. PeaceNikki Apr 2013 #12
crazy stuff HiPointDem Apr 2013 #15
I don't read Inforwars or listen to Alex Jones whatchamacallit Apr 2013 #13
That site is poison, but I read it every so often. Behind the Aegis Apr 2013 #14
yeh every once in a while i visit stormfront.org.. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #17

11cents

(1,777 posts)
1. Amazing. Just so damn ... interesting.
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 05:57 PM
Apr 2013

Elsewhere I called the infowars-Tsarnaev connection "a Moebius strip of whackjobbery."

11cents

(1,777 posts)
4. I know! Brain hurts.
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 05:59 PM
Apr 2013

But if anything can confirm that the Tsarnaevs were fundamentally made in America, this is it.

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
6. Thanks. The Gawker Media take on it usually interests me. The commenters are usually good. Like this
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 06:07 PM
Apr 2013

"I can't wait to see how the main people at Infowars respond to this story. I am guessing they will claim that Uncle Ruslan and the brother-in-law are pawns of the Illuminati, the Federal Reserve, and the US Gov't, and are being used to unwittingly discredit renegade truth-seekers like themselves, Alex Jones, and Glenn Beck.

And of course, their supporters will buy into it one hundred percent"

D'oh... and I see I duped your OP... sorry!!

11cents

(1,777 posts)
7. Indeed, Jones says that this is a typical attempt ....
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 06:09 PM
Apr 2013

...to discredit him by linking him to terrorists.

tarheelsunc

(2,117 posts)
8. "It's the government trying to make me look bad"
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 06:12 PM
Apr 2013

"This is more proof the globalists know we are on to them and they are trying to discredit us. I HAVE the documents! I'm on to you, filthy globalist scum!"

 

Phillip McCleod

(1,837 posts)
16. was that a real quote? it's impossible to tell..
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 07:47 AM
Apr 2013

..the difference between satire and reality when it comes to these clowns.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
11. It seems a Chicken-or-Egg prospect
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 06:26 PM
Apr 2013

Are the paranoid delusions what inspire the murderous behaviors or do they have murderous inclinations and then seek to rationalize them behind cloaks of fantasy?

I mean, if a person TRULY and GENUINELY thought the government had perpetrated the mass-murder of 3,000 of its own for Agenda X wherein hundreds of thousands of others died then armed resistance wouldn't seem that crazy. One might even feel duty-bound to resist such a government much the same way some Germans sought to actively sabotage the Nazis during the war.

Or maybe they're just assholes and any excuse to cause mayhem is a good excuse.

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
15. crazy stuff
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 06:34 AM
Apr 2013
Operation Northwoods was a series of false flag proposals that originated within the United States government in 1962, but were rejected by the Kennedy administration.[2] The proposals called for the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), or other operatives, to commit perceived acts of terrorism in U.S. cities and elsewhere. These acts of terrorism were to be blamed on Cuba in order to create public support for a war against that nation...

Operation Northwoods proposals included hijackings and bombings followed by the introduction of phony evidence that would implicate the Cuban government.

Several other proposals were included within Operation Northwoods, including real or simulated actions against various U.S. military and civilian targets. The plan was drafted by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, signed by Chairman Lyman Lemnitzer and sent to the Secretary of Defense. Although part of the U.S. government's Cuban Project anti-communist initiative, Operation Northwoods was never officially accepted; it was authorized by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, but then rejected by President John F. Kennedy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

Behind the Aegis

(53,955 posts)
14. That site is poison, but I read it every so often.
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 12:30 AM
Apr 2013

It is good to read sites like that on occasion, just to see where people are. That site is used here every now and again, as well. Like a number of conspiracy sites of that magnitude, the anti-Semitism is off the charts. There is, of course, the grand irony of infowars being a conspiracy site and hosting things like "The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, which is a conspiracy, but not the type they think. I do think infowars dropped Protocols from their web pages because I had several versions bookmarked and that one is not responding.

 

Phillip McCleod

(1,837 posts)
17. yeh every once in a while i visit stormfront.org..
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 08:04 AM
Apr 2013

..to see what the white nationalists are saying about this subject or that..

..using Tor browser of course.. like a hazmat suit for your 'puter..

the 'civil war 2' thread went oddly quiet on the day after the boston bombing, as if everyone was waiting to see if it was one of their own before they chose whether to attack the perps, or the victims. haven't been back since of course, but one can imagine the feeding frenzy. that whole site is like the comments section on infowars, except they're unapologetic about their racism and antisemitism .. and *islamaphobia*.

that's what i think of when i think of infowars.. *that* element of the crazy. every alex jones nut i've ever met has also been a good ole boy racist 'Murkan .. and it just seems odd that a supposedly radicalized muslim like Tamerlan would be attracted to it. i put it in the same category of wingnut racist websites as pam geller's 'atlas jugs'.

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