One of the most powerful tweets I have seen about Islam

[Kevin Spidel]

Simple, yet powerful. Now viral

"Muslims view "Islamic" terrorists the same way most Christians view the Westboro Baptist Church...."

Follow her here

[seabeyond]

1. right on. nt

[pscot]

2. As something we have to put up with

on an open society? The comparison doesn't hold up.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

3. Would you prefer this?

Claiming Bin Laden represents Muslims is like claiming Charley Manson represents Christians.

[Mariana]

6. How about this:

Muslims view "Islamic" terrorists the same way most Christians view "Christian" terrorists."

Eric Rudolph, for example, was/is a Christian terrorist who blew up innocent people. For a more recent example, Paul Ross Evans was/is another Christian terrorist who tried to blow up innocent people in Austin, Texas in 2007, but fortunately the bomb he built and planted didn't go off.

How do (most) Christians feel about these two and others like them? I would hope that (most) Muslims feel the same way about "Islamic" terrorists.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

9. This may shock you but a lot of people in the Middle East aren't even that religious...

Especially the younger ones who are into the club scene.

Don't forget that bin Laden was a rich playboy before he decided to dress like a holy man.

[Mariana]

24. It doesn't shock me at all.

I was just trying to put forth a better analogy.

It's pretty damn obvious to anyone with two brain cells to rub together that only a miniscule percentage of Muslims, wherever they are, are in favor of terrorism.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

29. Not many of them carry a rug around either.

[pampango]

22. "I would hope that (most) Muslims feel the same way about "Islamic" terrorists." - Indeed they do.

http://www.pewglobal.org/2012/07/10/most-muslims-want-democracy-personal-freedoms-and-islam-in-political-life/

Particularly with respect to Al-Queda "most" (a vast majority in all countries, nearly unanimous in a couple) Muslims oppose it.

[amuse bouche]

4. Imagine if humans finally grew up

and advanced past all religious hocus pocus.

Living life without superstition

Imagine

[Apophis]

13. This.

[treestar]

20. I don't think it's the religion

It's a political point, and they hide behind the religion.

[Lobo27]

5. The reason a lot of the don't stand up is because of fear.

Imagine living everyday of your life in constant fear of being killed for something we take for granted. Oh the girl wants to learn to read, yeah she is dead. Oh that guy there he is a different type of Muslim, yeah he dead. That is what a large portion of the Muslim world lives with. Constant fear.....

[tammywammy]

7. Another thread on this here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022732203

[Honeycombe8]

8. Did you hear muslim leaders on national television saying that? When? What station?

I think that's the problem with public perception and where some of the hate comes from.

Muslim leaders have been mainly, if not totally, silent during all these years of terrorism by muslims against innocent people in the name of Islam or Allah.

A tweet by someone doesn't cut it in the face of this sort of incident, as well as the numerous other incidents over the years. The leaders don't have to say anything, but it would help make it clear to the world what the official view of the religion is on terrorism and these incidents. Silence to some means approval.

[Turborama]

10. Here --->

Muslim leaders: We stand against terrorism


April 20, 2013 12:30 am
WASHINGTON

American Muslim leaders say they stand against terrorism committed in the name of Islam, trying to distance themselves from the suspects in the Boston Marathon bombings who were identified as Muslims with ties to Chechnya.

“We will never allow ourselves to be hijacked by this attempt, and we will not allow the perception to be that there is any religion in the world that condones the taking of innocent life,” said Nihad Awad, national executive director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, of CAIR.

As the manhunt intensified in and around Boston, Muslim leaders convened a press conference Friday in Washington to denounce the attacks and to urge the media not to link their faith with violent extremism.

A similar press conference was called in St. Louis by the local chapter of CAIR. The event was organized just hours after police zeroed in on suspects Friday morning.

Full article: http://www.stltoday.com/lifestyles/faith-and-values/muslim-leaders-we-stand-against-terrorism/article_278ef403-cbb7-58bf-bdef-71a7cbfa0e0d.html

See also:

The Big Lie About Muslim Silence on Terrorism

Islamic Statements Against Terrorism

Muslims Condemn Terrorist Attacks

[uppityperson]

12. Awww, you are no fun.

Thanks for posting all those links. It gets old, having to do so and I appreciate your continuing.

[Honeycombe8]

31. I gave up on your numerous links. I was unable to find one link to an American

national source where a prominent Islamic leader denounces terrorism and explains it's not part of Islam, etc.

Your links seem to be mainly Islamic leaders on foreign sites speaking to muslims. That isn't what my post was about.

I did find one prominent American site - Christian Science Monitor - where a SPANISH Islamic speaking in Spain to Spaniard muslims denounces terrorism. That's close.

My point was....going on CNN or MSNBC and making a statement to AMERICANS, and maybe even participating in a question and answer interview session, like all other people who want to get a message to the American people do.

They don't have any duty to do that. I'm just sayin'.....when you're talking about hate mongering, making this position absolutely clear might just help a bit. There's no reaching some of the wacko hate mongerers out there, no matter what, but it just might help with some.

[Turborama]

32. The article I posted is about a news conference in America by Americans to Americans.

The US MSM not reporting it is rather telling.

The links I provided below it disproves what you said in the post I was replying to:

"Muslim leaders have been mainly, if not totally, silent during all these years of terrorism by muslims against innocent people in the name of Islam or Allah."

[stevenleser]

33. Why should they have to do that? Should Jews have had to denounce Meir Kahane and his group?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meir_Kahane#Jewish_Defense_League

Should Christians/Whites have to denounce Timothy McVeigh?

[Hugabear]

11. Fucking bullshit

Muslim leaders HAVE been speaking out against terrorism. Quite often, in fact.

[HiPointDem]

15. only because you're not looking for it. yes, i've heard it, multiple times. maybe you just don't

want to hear, or brush it off as non-representative when you do hear.

jesus fucking christ.

[Honeycombe8]

30. If I didn't hear it, millions of others didn't. I watch ALL the political shows....

CNN, MSNBC, some Fox, etc.

I've heard discussions on TV about how the muslim leaders haven't been making national statements against terrorism, explaining it's not their philosophy and not in the Koran (or they don't abide by that part of the Koran). I've watched for it....never have seen it.

So if I haven't, most others haven't. Which was my point. It would help curb the hate mongering a bit.

[Donald Ian Rankin]

14. Not true, sadly

The only way you can talk about "what Muslims believe" or "what Christians believe" is in terms of how many people believe what - there's very little they all agree about.

There are many, many more - quite possibly orders of magnitude more - Muslims who support or are equivocal about terrorism than there are Christians who don't despise the Westborough baptists.

[HiPointDem]

16. bullshit. like you have any evidence whatsoever for that proposition, since you have surveys

of all the muslims in the fucking world.

[RZM]

25. Here is some polling data

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2732812

[HiPointDem]

28. yes, & it directly contradicts the other posters bs

[Violet_Crumble]

21. The only thing I find sad is the rush from a few folk to try to attack a positive message of peace..

I've got no time nor respect for the 'many Muslims support terrorism' brigade. Saying 'many' instead of 'all' doesn't take away from the fact that there's something stinky about pretending that you know what 'most' Muslims think and believe when it's something incredibly negative...

[Donald Ian Rankin]

27. An *untrue* positive message of peace, is the thing.

"It would be good if it were true" is not relevant to "is it true?"

[OneGrassRoot]

17. Love this, love our sig line.

K&R

[madville]

18. Let me know when there are hundreds of thousands

Of Christians celebrating in the streets over Westboro's actions and I'll buy the comparison. Islamic terrorists have a huge, vocal fan base.

[geek tragedy]

19. How do those Muslims feel about people who murder others

over cartoons and attack embassies over YouTube trailers for obscure films?

[jessie04]

23. And you can add...

How they feel about the

treatment of women
acid attacks on women
honor killings
madrassas
gay muslims
gay americans as well.

[pampango]

26. At least as far as gender issues are concerned there's a Pew poll in post #22 above

that gives some information about attitudes towards gender equality in several Arab countries.