Man who identified bombers & lost both legs is appealing for help with soaring medical costs

[snagglepuss]

It's effing outrageous that terrorist victims have to appeal for help with medical bills. Only in America that a terrorist gets free medical care but his victims go BEGGING. It's absolutely disgusting that this man needs to plea for help.








http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2312125/Jeff-Bauman-Man-identified-Boston-bombers-lost-legs-appealing-help-soaring-medical-costs--thousands-dollars-donations-pour-maimed-victims.html

[elleng]

1. The 'outrage' is the high cost even tho he HAS insurance from employer, Costco.

And he and other victims did not have to appeal for help, help was and is on the way.

'Although the 27-year-old victim is covered by medical insurance from his employer, Costco, his treatment and rehabilitation are expected to be both lengthy and costly. . .

Like nearly 98 per cent of Massachusetts resident, Bauman is fortunate enough to have health ­insurance to help cover his medical bills, but his employer, Costco Wholesale Corp., is also matching donations made by colleagues at the chain’s Nashua location, The Boston Globe reported. . .

‘What is important is that he is covered and will be taken care of,’ said Bob Nelson, a Costco executive.
Co-workers have been raising money for him since Monday. The retailer has also permitted the store’s general manager, Kevin Horst, to spend the week helping Bauman’s family.
Horst secured three parking spots for Bauman’s relatives outside the hospital where the 27-year-old man is being treated and collected gift certificate donations from various merchants in the South End.
A similar effort has raised more than $400,000 for Celeste Corcoran and her daughter Sydney, who were severely injured in the attack.'

[Lasher]

36. All according to the oligarchy's plan.

Shitty, high-deductible, catastrophic-only, mandatory health insurance for everybody.

[marlakay]

2. The Red Sox are wearing special uniforms

that say Boston only on them instead of Boston Red Sox in solidarity to the town. They are auctioning them off for the victims.

Every little bit to help.

[Please proceed]

22. David Ortiz had a special message

For those who want to dictate Boston freedom.

"This is our fu#king city"

[Justice]

27. Link to Ortiz's statement. Awesomely emotional.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/david-ortiz-punctuates-red-sox-pregame-ceremony-strong-183311162--mlb.html

[marybourg]

3. I don't understand your assertion that terrorists

get free medical care. Oh, on thinking it over, I guess it's just hyperbole.

I do believe, however, that our system of paying for medical care, defective as it is, works the same for terrorists and non-terrorists. Non-terrorists, however CAN ask for help and get it, or go bankrupt and never pay the bills. Terrorists are also free to ask for help, but they won't get it, and then they can just not pay the bills.

[snagglepuss]

7. Terrorists like all prisoners once arrested get treated.

[marybourg]

9. And their insurance, if they have it,

or they themselves if they don't, are never billed by the hospital and attending doctors?

[nadinbrzezinski]

10. The state pays for that care

[snagglepuss]

11. Are you joking? You think guys in penitentiaries have insurance?

[marybourg]

16. We were talking about someone when they are

"getting arrested". Does no one getting arrested have a job?

[snagglepuss]

28. No such thing as getting arrested unless you mean the moment they are placed under

arrest. Once you get arrested you get free healthcare whether or not you have insurance.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

21. They don't NEED "insurance". They get Healthcare WITHOUT IT.

I swear,..everybody is brainwashed into thinking the two are connected.

[Drew Richards]

39. wrong its is state or federally paid for. You on the right web site?

[marybourg]

46. Yes. sorry. No doubt your law degree is more recent

than mine and therefore you know who is ultimately billed for what in every situaton.

[reformist2]

12. This is a slam-dunk point to make against the pro-private health care crowd.

What is the Fox News crowd going to say, that the terrorist suspect should die - and thereby taking any important info he has with him to the grave? Of course not - they will have to admit that he has to be treated in the interest of national security.

Joe Schmo who also gets shot up, they got nothing for him, though.

[snagglepuss]

15. Bang on.

[L0oniX]

4. Disaster economics for the medical field. Why don't they care about the victims?

They are already victims of crime and now victims of the health care system.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

5. We need a national health care system

I'm sure this young man who had the misfortune to lose his legs will at least be able to raise the money for his bills. According to the article, the money is pouring in from charitable people. But whether you lose your legs to a highly publicized terrorist incident or to an accidental occurrence that occurs without notice shouldn't depend on the "luck" of the draw as to whether you can pay for it.

[snagglepuss]

8. Universal healthcare goes without sayingand I didn't want to suggest otherwise.

It is simply disgusting that victims have to appeal for charity.

[reformist2]

6. Why should anyone have to worry about this? This is another boost for socialized medicine.

[Liberal_in_LA]

13. kick

[SwampyJ]

14. One Fund Boston

I believe One Fund Boston was setup to help the injured with the expenses. Last time I heard about they estimated they would need 9 million to cover the cost. The have 10 million in the fund already.

http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_coverage/2013/04/one_fund_already_at_10m

[snagglepuss]

24. Why should victims go begging? Not having healthcare is itself terrorism.

The terror of no healthcare.

[FailureToCommunicate]

41. Massachusetts HAS universal healthcare. I agree with you that more is needed, but your outrage

may be misdirected in our case. Jeff Bauman and other victims health costs will be covered. There may be lots of other cost that are not. And of course no amount of money will restore there shattered lives.

[Nye Bevan]

17. Remember when the London bombing victims appealed for help with their huge medical costs?

Me neither.

[Cleita]

18. Wouldn't the organizers of the marathon have liability insurance in case of

incidents like this. If so, it seems he could make a claim for reparations. If not they should have it.

[rocktivity]

19. It's equally outrageous that you had to go all the way to England

to find this story!


rocktivity

[snagglepuss]

20. Why the hell isn't this front and center? This too is effing terror. The terror of no healthcare.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

23. Anyone see where corporations offered to pour money into this?

[MADem]

30. The ONE FUND is heavily funded by corporations. John Hancock got the ball rolling with a million.

They're up to at least ten million already. LOTS of personal contributions too--this thing is growing like a weed.

It's being run like the 911 fund, with lots of oversight. http://www.bizjournals.com/boston/news/2013/04/17/bostons-one-fund-for-marathon-victims.html

According to the One Fund website, other individuals and corporations making commitments to the effort include Jack Connors, John Fish, CEO of Suffolk Construction, Brian Moynihan, President and CEO of Bank of America, Paul Grogan, President of The Boston Foundation, Steve Pagliuca, Managing Director of Bain Capital and co-owner of the Boston Celtics, Larry Lucchino, CEO of the Boston Red Sox, and Mike Sheehan, CEO, and Karen Kaplan, President of Hill Holliday.

[Zorra]

32. In all fairness, they've already poured a lot of their money into this:

Health Insurers Making Record Profits as Many Postpone Care
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/14/business/14health.html

The nation’s major health insurers are barreling into a third year of record profits, enriched in recent months by a lingering recessionary mind-set among Americans who are postponing or forgoing medical care.

The UnitedHealth Group, one of the largest commercial insurers, told analysts that so far this year, insured hospital stays actually decreased in some instances. In reporting its earnings last week, Cigna, another insurer, talked about the “low level” of medical use.

Yet the companies continue to press for higher premiums, even though their reserve coffers are flush with profits and shareholders have been rewarded with new dividends. Many defend proposed double-digit increases in the rates they charge, citing a need for protection against any sudden uptick in demand once people have more money to spend on their health, as well as the rising price of care.

[Zax2me]

40. Nice try.

They answered the call.
Now.
What about you?

[Spitfire of ATJ]

47. Are you kidding? Liberals aren't ALL rich.

[undeterred]

25. The father of the terrorists left his kids to go back home for his own health care.

Maybe his adult sons wouldn't have gotten so screwed up if he'd gotten health care in the US and been here to keep an eye on them instead of leaving big brother to look after little brother.

[MADem]

31. He qualified for health care in Massachusetts--we have "socialized medicine."

If he was poor or unemployed, he'd come under Commonwealth Care.

I have a very poor relative who recently suffered a calamitous illness, requiring a significant hospital stay and MONTHS of rehabilitative in-patient aftercare, followed by months of outpatient care, and he didn't pay a dime for it. Got superb care, too.

Are we sure he didn't leave because his wife was facing felony theft charges?

[undeterred]

35. I believe those charges took place after they were divorced.

Maybe he went home so that there would be other relatives to take care of him during his illness. I'm not sure what it was, but I did read that he left the country because of his health.

[MADem]

48. He had two strong sons--one of whom was unemployed and staying at home with his child.

Surely that kid could have helped to take care of him. That's what normal families do. He also would have qualified for Visiting Nurse help and other in-home aid.

The other son was a residential student at UMASS Dartmouth, but it is only an hour away from Cambridge--it's not like he couldn't get home to help out on occasion. He sure managed to get home at the long Patriot's Day weekend to kill and maim a bunch of innocents on Boylston Street.

Very weird--the kid went TO CLASS after he bombed the frigging marathon. Cold hearted: http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/04/20/umass-dartmouth-closed-today-authorities-investigate-bombing-suspect-dorm-boston-area-universities-mostly-open/k6GcRYqq72j3QdFarQnUEP/story.html

Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, the bombing suspect who was arrested last night after a tense manhunt in Watertown, was a student at the school and spent a normal day on campus Wednesday. His brother and alleged accomplice, Tamerlan, died after a shootout in Watertown earlier Friday.

A school official said that UMass Dartmouth is closed today so law enforcement can have ample breathing room to investigate Tsarnaev’s dorm room. University, local, state, and federal law enforcement agencies are on the case, said John Hoey, university assistant chancellor for public affairs.

“The university probably could have re-opened except for that one building, but this will give law enforcement a lot of space to complete their work,” Hoey said this morning.

I'm not buying the "illness" argument. I am unclear as to when the husband left, but the wife took off right after she was charged in Natick with felony shoplifting--not clear if she resolved that issue or it is still outstanding--it would be a salient piece of information to know.

I'd also like to know what the rent was on their apartment they were living in and whose name was on the lease. I am curious to know if they were in a subsidized arrangement that is often offered to refugees, and if that arrangement continued because housing authorities didn't know the parents had skeedaddled back to Russia.

[Iggo]

26. Meanwhile, aren't people lining up to buy that other guy a new boat?

America!

Fuck yeah!

[Rex]

29. You can thank Richard Nixon for the shitty private insurance scam

we have today.

[Heywood J]

49. Did you ever feel that history was repeating itself?

http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F60B17FD3E5C1A7493C7A8178FD85F448785F9

WASHINGTON, April 14 Senator Jacob K. Javits proposed today a national health insurance program that would extend Medicare benefits to people of all ages by 1973.

[caseymoz]

33. Well if we think like that . . .

. . . one percent will give us the perfect solution: no medical for prisoners. I'm certain they're tired of paying for humane treatment, too.

I'm sorry he's in such trouble, but you've taken your eye off the ball, here. Nothing could be solved by envying people who don't have anything and are at the mercy of others. That generally describes prisoners.

Prisoners are in a different economy. The two don't compare.

[snagglepuss]

34. This isn't about prisoners getting socialized healthcare, it's about everyone else who doesn't.

[2Design]

37. single payer system needed - like canada, france, norweigian countries

[Brimley]

38. Jesus!

And this is coming from an agnostic.

[cali]

42. fucking lying ass stupid piece of shit Daily Mail

A) He has insurance

B) It was his friends that started a fund for him. It's for post hospital life for Jeff.

and yes, Tsarnaev should get medical care. duh.

Jeff Bauman was pictured being wheeled to an ambulance by Carlos Arredondo shortly after Monday's attack. He had lost both his legs below the knee. According to the Boston Globe, the 27-year-old has medical insurance through his employer, Costco, but not enough to meet the inevitable costs of life after the disaster.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donations-roll-in-for-jeff-bauman--boston-bombing-victim-who-helped-identify-suspects-after-losing-his-legs-8581277.html

[snagglepuss]

44. He has insurance but its not enough. Who said this scum ought not to get insurance?

My outrage is that prisoners benefit from socialized medicine whereas non-prisoners don't. And prisoners don't have fucking deductibles.

[progressoid]

45. I'm not one to normally defend the Daily Mail, but isn't that what they said?

A) He has insurance

B) It was his friends that started a fund for him. It's for post hospital life for Jeff.

[HockeyMom]

43. PROFITS!!!!!!

That is what this entire country is all about, including medical care.