Lindsey Graham and McCain release a joint statement to treat them as enemy combatants. Wow.

[Logical]

Just put out this statement with John McCain about the suspect captured in Boston and whether they should be held as an enemy combatant.

“We truly appreciate the hard work and dedication of our law enforcement and intelligence communities.

"It is clear the events we have seen over the past few days in Boston were an attempt to kill American citizens and terrorize a major American city. The accused perpetrators of these acts were not common criminals attempting to profit from a criminal enterprise, but terrorist trying to injure, maim, and kill innocent Americans.

"Now that the suspect is in custody, the last thing we should want is for him to remain silent. It is absolutely vital the suspect be questioned for intelligence gathering purposes. We need to know about any possible future attacks which could take additional American lives. The least of our worries is a criminal trial which will likely be held years from now.

"Under the Law of War we can hold this suspect as a potential enemy combatant not entitled to Miranda warnings or the appointment of counsel. Our goal at this critical juncture should be to gather intelligence and protect our nation from further attacks.

"We remain under threat from radical Islam and we hope the Obama Administration will seriously consider the enemy combatant option.

“We will stand behind the Administration if they decide to hold this suspect as an enemy combatant.”

https://www.facebook.com/USSenatorLindseyGraham

It is funny, so basically, you are entitled to these rights until we don't want you to be entitled to them.

[emulatorloo]

1. Those two are attention whores. Plus McCain is on a revenge quest

Because Obama kicked his ass in 08

[tblue37]

2. OMG! My first reaction was to wonder why McCain was

putting out a joint statement with Lindsay Lohan!

I need to read more carefully before reacting.

[CincyDem]

4. OMG - John McCain is dating Linsay Lohan. How did I miss that ??? n/t

[Katashi_itto]

40. She needed a sugar daddy, you didnt know?

[CincyDem]

3. This is a "soft on terrorism" frame up

By getting out in front of this, Gramps and the gang define the argument as one of commitment to the safety of American citizens. If (and I hope when) BHO and DoJ decide that White Hat will be tried as a US citizen, he'll be making a commitment to the rights of American citizens.

In Gramps world, you can't be committed to safety AND rights. My hope is that the administration will figure out a way to help people understand that either/or is the easy way out and both/and is great leadership.

Let's see how this works out in the next couple days.

[emulatorloo]

6. Yep, Gonna be their new "Benghazi Strategy."

FWIW, Pete Williams reported last night that Admin will try him in regular old civilian court.

[CincyDem]

38. And Boston is so much easier to spell. n/t

[wandy]

20. And right wing fools wil so want to protect American liberty that they...........

will happily surrender it.

[rurallib]

5. Demand waterboarding too!

[elehhhhna]

9. That's what they're doing. It's all subtext.

But we must protect the civil rights of our shooters. Because AMERICA!

[liberal N proud]

7. What a way to interject yourself into the story.

These two egomaniac just have to be part of every story.

[notadmblnd]

8. So far I don't see this as being different from that Malvo case

Lee Boyd Malvo (born February 18, 1985), also known as John Lee Malvo, is a Jamaican-American convicted murderer who, along with John Allen Muhammad, committed murders in connection with the Beltway sniper attacks in the Washington Metropolitan Area over a three-week period in October 2002. Although the pairing's actions were classified as psychopathy attributable to serial killer characteristics by the media, whether or not their psychopathy meets this classification or that of a spree killer is debated by researchers.[1

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Boyd_Malvo

Were they charged as enemy combatants? McCain and Graham are just looking for face time.

[treestar]

10. And this is a guy who wanted to be President

And might well have left us with President Palin who could have exercised these powers.

He is assuming too that there is anyone else.

And oh please. They would stand behind the Adminsitration! :rofl;

[Brooklyns_Finest]

11. Embarrassment

They can't be serious with this shit. I wasn't too alarmed when Obama sent drones to kill the American citizens overseas, but now I'm starting to realize that given enough FEAR, these old men are willing to erode all of our freedoms.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

12. The minute that Lindsey opened his mouth the other day about Miranda

I knew that this would be coming- and that McCain would be joining him.

Anybody else even more thankful that it's not President Romney having to make a decision about this?

[GitRDun]

13. They should try being good at THEIR job before they start giving advice to

others on how to do theirs.

Go pass a budget ass hats!

[kelliekat44]

14. Why not release a statement on turning our attention to West, TX?

All these two want to do is challenge this President on every issue.

[kenny blankenship]

15. The profit motive excuses

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"The accused perpetrators of these acts were not common criminals attempting to profit from a criminal enterprise..."

If only they had been trying to turn an honest buck from mass murder, we'd be glad to extend to Mr. Tsarnaev ALL of his civil rights due to him as a US citizen facing serious felony charges.

[TheKentuckian]

30. That stood out in ten foot tall letters of fire to me. Pursuit of profit is always in the bounds of

reason.

[malaise]

16. Tell those two assholes to remember the case of José Padilla

and remember that the government backed down and he was tried in civilian court.

He was detained as a material witness until June 9, 2002, when President George W. Bush designated him an enemy combatant and, arguing that he was not entitled to trial in civilian courts, had him transferred to a military prison. Padilla was held for three and a half years as an "enemy combatant." He was subjected to what were called enhanced interrogation techniques, regarded as torture by some, including sleep deprivation, shackling and stress positions, the administration of psychotropic drugs, and solitary confinement.[1] After pressure from civil liberties groups, the charge was dropped, and his case was moved to a civilian court.

[MjolnirTime]

17. As long as we can treat Air Pirate McCain as an enemy combatant, too

[LisaL]

18. The suspect is a US citizen.

How can he be declared an enemy combatant?

[flamingdem]

25. ha! good point, not like gramps cares though since he's looking for media attention

and the facts always get blurbled by the Fox gang

[HipChick]

19. I wondering why McCain was putting out a joint with Lindset Graham

Do they also go to the bathroom together?

[Botany]

21. "Hey Lindsey I got us a room @ the Hilton ... can you give me a hot Benghazi?"

********

ATTN john & lindsey ..... he is an American citizens and he has Constitutional rights.

[flamingdem]

26. LOL

[Botany]

31. Thanx I'll be here all week try the veal and remember to tip your waits.

BTW go to the link @ the top of the tread to Lindsey's face book page .... comments
are priceless and yes on that page Lindsey is still talking about BENGAHZI!

[Nevernose]

22. Cowards. Why not just give Al Qaeda the keys?

If the point of terrorism is to cause fear, then the only possible way a terrorist can win is if victims (in this case, the United Stares) act out of fear.

Clearly, the terrorists of the world are tougher than McCain and Graham. These two people are cowards, pure and simple, regardless of what MCain endures 45 years ago.

[arthritisR_US]

23. It's sad how they have so little confidence in

the American judicial system

[undeterred]

24. Dementia??

[asjr]

27. Two of the most stupid people in the Senate! And they do not

mind showing just how stupid they are.

[Logical]

33. I have thought the same thing. n-t

[undeterred]

34. McCain is way past his "expiration date".

He says a lot of things that don't make sense.

[boston bean]

28. They aint in freakin charge.

fuck them and pens and paper they used to craft this ludicrous statement.

[nobodyspecial]

29. How does that work

since the only survivor is actually an American citizen.

[cosmostump]

32. McCain and Graham charge of term Combatants

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If McCain and Graham can Make that term stick..Then as "combatants" the accused men fall under Military tribunal law..no Maranda or probable cause ,ETC.(rather than traditional federal law which give many more Rights than Tribunal- then the POSSIBILITY that SOMEHOW OBAMA might GET CREDIT HERE).. hence McCain accomplishes MANY things: he gets attention, he gives CONTROL to the Military, and their interests, the DEFENSE CONTRACTORS whom are Happy to return MONETARY FAVORS via CONTRACTS. with LOBBYING (contributions to his running for office)..AND this all furthers the small group of Republicans AGENDA to Justify RYAN'S(and theirs) BUDGET PROPOSAL that ADDS TWO TRILLION to our MILITARY BUDGET..and THEN say OBAMA can NOT BUDGET..and we MUST PAY OUR DEBT!...ENTER JUSTIFICATION and AGENDA: LETS just GET RID OF SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE (that will pay for the two TRILLON in Military SPENDING!),,,,,,,,EVERYBODY FED AND HAPPY...BUT NOT THE MILK COW...THE MIDDLE CLASS....WE PAY FOR THIS MONITARILY, AND LOSS OF OUR OLD AGE SECURITY...AND WITH OUR YOUNG SOLDIERS LIVES...NOT THEIR CHILDREN OF COURSE .....OR THEIR OLD AGE SECURITY!
WATCH THESE TWO MEN AND THEIR AGENDA"S CAREFULLY MY FRIENDS..THEY WILL KILL OURWAY OF LIFE AS WE KNOW IT...IF WE LET THEM....YES THE TWO MEN OF WHICH I SPEAK ARE MC CAIN AND GRAHAM..THEY ARE THE REAL "COMBATANTS!".....GREED, MONEY...AND POWER..AT EVERYONE ELSES EXPENSE!!!

[arcane1]

35. He said the same thing about James Holmes, right?

*crickets*

[dballance]

36. Enemy Combatant In What War?

He's a naturalized US citizen so the executive order on trial of unlawful alien enemy combatants doesn't apply http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2007/02/20070214-5.html/. In what war were the brothers participating?

Not to mention Obama's administration already dropped the enemy combatant term http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/03/13/enemy.combatant/

Obama's administration likely dropped the term because they knew it was unconstitutional and in conflict with our treaties and the Geneva Convention.

No fools like old fools.

[lpbk2713]

37. Still looking to get their names in the headlines.

It never ends.

[Jeremy Almond]

39. Boston is not a war zone

McCaine is a senile dumb loser.

[Blue_In_AK]

41. Appropriate that they would release a "joint" statement on 4/20. N/t

[Logical]

42. LOL! n-t

[L0oniX]

43. Are they dating? n/t

[Taverner]

44. NO - they deserve an AMERICAN court case

Not some secret military tribunal, FFS

Fuck those fascist motherfuckers

This will NOT be a police state

[bhikkhu]

45. Thank god they're not in charge

's all I can say about that.

[Boomerproud]

46. The Bobsey Twins at it again.

They'll show up arm and arm on "Meet The Press" on Sunday right?