If there's a forum where this goes, I'd happily oblige...THIS is what they are saying...

[LaydeeBug]

That now deceased Big Brother was in violation of immigration rules, and that President Obama *refused* to deport him. Part of being able to dismantle their constant, bloviating, disinformation campaign is to know how they're trying to frame the narrative. Please help.

http://gopthedailydose.com/2013/04/19/obama-refused-to-deport-muslim-boston-bomber-after-2009-criminal-conviction-violated-immigration-rules/

[Quantess]

1. I don't have anything helpful to say.

This is going to bite this administration in the butt.

[yellowcanine]

10. "This is going to bite this administration in the butt." Says you. BS

This doesn't even rise to the level of "concern" for a concern troll.

[Quantess]

11. Don't shoot the messenger.

Anyway, I hope you're right.

[yellowcanine]

20. There is a difference between being a "messenger" and carrying water for the teabaggers.

Sorry but when I see people carrying water for teabaggers I am going to target them.

[LaydeeBug]

22. NOW who's the one painting with a broad brush?

Practice what you preach

[Freddie]

2. Already seeing stuff on FB

Mostly the "if you lived in Boston don't you wish you had a gun?" crap. But yes the RWNJs are going to be all over this one.

[LaydeeBug]

5. I can help you with that one...to that asshole from Arkansas...(see link)

http://www.boston.com/ae/radio/blog/2013/04/why_are_so_many_bostonians_telling_arkansas_state_senator_nate_bell_hes_an_idiot.html

[Freddie]

9. Thanks! The Nate Bell tweet is what I saw on FB

Good to see some great responses.

[LaydeeBug]

25. I liked the cat mystery novelist the best. nt

[OKNancy]

3. that's just some sort of editorial opinion

He "could" have been deported, but he wasn't. It's not up to Obama to personally go over every bit of information about immigrants.
This administration has actually deported a record number of people.
I wouldn't worry what some idiot on a Texas GOP blog says. I mean, most of those people believe Obama himself is a terrorist

[LaydeeBug]

16. Thank you for this, because it's succinct and awesome.

When they bang the drum for a long enough time, it is hard to clear your head, you know?

THANK YOU FOR THIS!

[jehop61]

4. Lots of "bull ticky"

This looks like yet another one of those internet posts that look fairly reputable, but are actually lies and falsehoods. I get many, many of these and delete them. You can usually tell by the silly internet names they possess. These folks can't just dislike the President for his policies, they have to make up lies. Shame on them.

[LaydeeBug]

7. But is it a lie? Don't get me wrong, no one should be expecting that President personally review

every last deportation personally. But I don't want to call it a LIE unless it's a lie. Right now, it's a stretch

[yellowcanine]

6. It's an absurd argument. Who has suggested that legal residents charged with domestic violence

should be deported? - note, we do not know that there was a conviction, just an arrest and a charge. Deportation of legal residents is not a simple process - it is involved and ties up a lot of law enforcement resources. We are not going to deport every legal resident alien over a domestic assault conviction, let alone a charge of domestic assault.

And why is Judicial Watch BS being disseminated here on DU? - "This is what THEY are saying" , my ass - this is what YOU are saying. If you are going to post BS like this at least take the time to research it a bit and rebut the argument. Just posting teabagger bs without attempting to rebut it is trollish behavior at best and carrying water for the teabaggers at worst. When you troll you get flamed. Consider yourself flamed.

[LaydeeBug]

12. Um...it is indeed what THEY are saying, and THAT LIE will DOMINATE the narrative if you ignore it

But keep telling yourself that it won't, or that posting about how to refute it somehow aids THEIR cause. It doesn't. It only appeases YOU and YOUR sense of SPITE. Somehow, wanting to refute their claims *before* it dominates the narrative is flame bait for you?

FLAME AWAY CHILD, BECAUSE YOU'RE ALL WET. Really.

It should occur to you that my posting this here *IS* my fucking attempt to rebut it, oh wet one. But keep deluding yourself into thinking that harping is going to change their narrative. Nice try. No dice.

[yellowcanine]

26. Who is ignoring it? I answered your troll post didn't I? It isn't going to dominate anything.

And rebutting requires making an argument, not asking others to do it for you.

[LaydeeBug]

29. Oh wet one! You've responded with some passive aggressive bs...let me help...

If you answered the troll post, you didn't fucking ignore it, did you?

wow

[MOTRDemocrat]

8. What is complete shit is that these two were given scholarships...

When people that were born here can barely afford a secondary education.

I don't care how that sounds to people.

Priority should be given to those that were popped out on American soil.

[LaydeeBug]

13. Welcome to DU. Are you trying to say that we should discern from born here for scholarships? That's

kinda crazy and spiteful all at once.

[DonViejo]

15. Please provide a link...

to back up your statement that both received a scholarship. Yes, the youngest brother got one, $2,500.00 from the City of Cambridge to pursue higher education. But back up your chargethat both did

http://www.wcvb.com/news/local/metro/Russian-Boston-Marathon-bombing-suspect-Dzhokhar-Tsarnaev-got-Cambridge-scholarship/-/11971628/19813618/-/9jddmj/-/index.html

[yellowcanine]

18. Painting with a rather broad nativist brush there.......

Scholarships are given for all kinds of reasons to all different kinds of people. What is not given to one person doesn't necessarily go to someone else. This is a stupid argument. You don't care about making stupid arguments? So be it.

And a secondary education (SKA High School) is free btw so everyone can afford it.

[City Lights]

40. I heard the younger brother was awarded a $2500 scholarship.

I haven't heard anything about a scholarship for the older brother.

[maddezmom]

14. This crap belongs at Freeperville N/T

[LaydeeBug]

19. ignore it at your peril. nt

[maddezmom]

24. Not ignoring it, read it and it is stupid.

Why do you always bring RW garbage here to be debunked? The crazy are all over place and if I wanted to read this type of shit it's out there, where it belongs.

[LaydeeBug]

28. While I appreciate your attempt to marginalize my plight with your attempt to CENSOR me

I will not be bullied. I bring right wing garbage here to be debunked because there are a lot of us out there who like to do the debunking. See post #5 and the shut the fuck up. Really. We encounter this shit, and the fighters are here.

I have no idea who you think you are, but I will not be censored or bullied.

Good DAY sir.

[maddezmom]

30. You asked if there was a forum for it

I answered Freeperville....or you could post it here
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1022

[LaydeeBug]

32. No thank you on Freeperville

and thank you for the link. I will cross post shortly.

[yellowcanine]

33. I guess I am not the only one who thinks you have stepped in it here.....Good day yourself.

[dembotoz]

17. bengazi was getting stale-need new meat

[LaydeeBug]

21. I know, right? And the LIES they STILL CLING TO about Benghazi is why we have to 'whack a mole' now

Seriously. We ignored "Al Gore said he invented the internet"because it was 'beneath us to address' (and I don't mean *us* *here*, I mean the collective, proverbial, *us*) and now these pecker necks STILL believe it.

If we don't shut it down in it's infancy, it will grow too big to manage

[gulliver]

23. Republicans loved George W. Bush

That tells you all you need to know about how they think.

[Bluenorthwest]

27. Sorry, FBI looks very sloppy, again, the same agency that tells us it needs more more

more, the same agency that pretty much ignored the warning signs of 9/11, the same agency that has stepped on so many rights in the name of stopping the bad guys interviewed a wife beating future bomber and said 'you can stay'. Also, you can travel to hot spots for months and then return unquestioned.
FBI looks very bad. Holder looks very bad. Holder was out there preaching against voter approved marijuana laws, sounding all tough and hard ass, while the guy his agency let go was building deadly bombs, Eric was sniffing around to see if anyone had sparked up a doobie.

[LaydeeBug]

31. Um...are you expecting that Eric Holder personally reviewed the case and gave the ok?

Happy 420

[Bluenorthwest]

35. Gee, no. I'm simply holding Obama's campaign words up to his record.

Here's what he said when he was asked about that:
Would you stop the DEA's raids on Oregon medical marijuana growers?
Obama: "I would because I think our federal agents have better things to do, like catching criminals and preventing terrorism."
http://www.wweek.com/portland/article-9003-six_minutes_with_barack.html
This is what Eric Holder was doing on Thursday of this very week hearings about the horror of it all.

"But Rep. Andy Harris, a Maryland Republican, said that the president didn't take a position on the initiatives, and urged the Justice Department to do so.

"Your department could choose to attempt to overturn those laws," said Harris, a physician. That would send a message to America's youth that marijuana is not a safe drug, he added. "Kids need clear messages and I'm afraid we're not sending them one," he said.

Harris pressed Holder on when a decision might come, "because children are dying from drugs. It is a scourge ... can you give me a general idea of when that decision's going to be made?"

Holder would only say, "As quick as we can."
http://news.yahoo.com/holder-marijuanas-effect-children-factor-195708801--politics.html


When Obama spoke of law enforcement priorities, I did not think he meant this. Blood on the streets while Holder addresses pot laws.
Do you approve of that priority? I agree with Obama in 08. I think our federal agents have better things to do, like catching criminals and preventing terrorism. Got a problem with that? Was Obama wrong when he said they have better things to do? I'd say this week is a clear display of that fact.

[Spider Jerusalem]

34. He was a legal permanent resident?

Deportation of a legal permanent resident requires conviction on aggravated felony charges Per immigration rules, "aggravated felony" includes: "crimes of violence for which the term of imprisonment is at least one year". Tamerlan Tsarnaev was arrested on domestic assault and battery charges; the maximum term for the crime of assault and battery, under Massachusetts law, is 2.5 years in regular cases (increasing to 5 if the victim is pregnant). Tsarnaev was not convicted. (I can't tell if the case even went to trial.) A simple arrest without conviction isn't grounds for deportation.

[rucky]

36. ^^^This^^^

[Life Long Dem]

37. Frame this

"Section 237 of the Immigration and Nationality Act(INA) provides for the deportation(removal) of legal resident aliens who are convicted in a court of certain crimes. One of these crimes that is pursued vigorously and happens regularly is domestic violence."

"As long as a person hasn’t naturalized(become a US Citizen), that person can still be deported to their country of citizenship no matter how many years they have been residing legally in the United States."

http://www.examiner.com/article/resident-aliens-face-deportation-for-domestic-violence-convictions

[Spider Jerusalem]

39. Keyword being "convictions"

he wasn't convicted and may not have been tried. Due process.

[99Forever]

38. You make a very valid point...

... this crap, and there is no doubt it is crap, gets ignored at the expense letting the RWNJs controlling the direction of the narrative. The 3rd Way hogwash of pretending to be above it and it will go away, has proven to be as worthless as 3rd Way politicians in general, if not more so. Rightwingnuts need to be slapped down every time they speak, EVERY gawddamn time, and then kicked while they are down.

[madrchsod]

41. got to love amy.....

she freaks out about obama`s so called refusal to deport the "muslim boston bombers" . yet she says nothing about the responsibility of the owner of the fertilizer plant who killed more people than the two "muslims".

i did notice that amy is from texas so i guess she does`t want to shit where she lives.