For those idiots who call them selves ARMING up

[bigdarryl]

With weapons just in case the Government tried and take over we'll they saw this past week what the Government has in store for you if you get stupid Local Law enforcement , Federal FBI , State Police, and they didn't even have to bring even the military in for Boston so that was only a little display of the Government. So keep your little fantasy about the Government is after your rights so there fore your arming up with your little guns

[graham4anything]

1. Damn right. I wanted to make this point myself. Another NRA lie is shot down.

We need to keep repeating this message anytime that NRA soundbyte comes up.
Guns do NOT protect.

The NRA is proving time and again, they are the terrorists and it becomes more and more obvious what they want the guns for. And their guns/bullets won't save them.

[glowing]

2. And most those right wing nut jobs under Bush would have

Been full in support. Now it's right wing nuts with the worst dreamed up conspiracies.

But it's basically what I've said... It's not going to change a damned thing stock piliing weapons to "take down the govt"...

If you want that, I truly believe it starts at the local level with people who are trustworthy or people like Elizabeth Warren. It's possible to find and work hard.

And if enough people are upset and stop working to protest, things could change. Boston went quiet for an entire day for the assistance for police and catching one person. Imagine that look across this land to disrupt an entire day of commerce and economy as a protest for jobs and jobs that pay with full realistic benefit packages? Could u imagine? That would be amazing!!! It can be done, we saw it in one of our oldest of city's where we began much of our independence long ago.

[sorefeet]

6. I ask that question too

I said just shut down the highways for only ONE hour as a demonstration. It didn't go over very good. What if someone missed their palate class because of it. Too much of a sacrifice.

[glowing]

11. It seemed to imply that "shut down traffic" meant sitting in cars blocking highways...

which could cause major issues with any person needing medical or police assitance against a crime. Doing what it looked like in Boston across the country for 1 day would really have an impact upon the lawmakers... (Even at 50% participation in such an event, it would have very realisic possibility of causing worry and perhaps change - and 2 or 3 days of this would cause world wide markets to feel the pain).

[quaker bill]

3. Government took over a long time ago

we, the people, created it for that purpose. We usually only get upset with it when it does not do as much as we want, or does it in the "wrong" direction.

The larger point is correct, not only will they stop you, but there will be high fives when the mission is accomplished.

[geckosfeet]

4. OK. Thank you so very much. And you can keep your fantasy about other peoples fantasies too.

It's all so,,,, symmetrical.

[OneGrassRoot]

5. Here's what one person told me in reply to that a while back:

I kept asking that same question, why anyone thinks these personal arsenals (which, granted, are sometimes HUGE, especially the doomsday-prepper types, and can inflict great harm on regular citizens), can even begin to take on the US Military?

What's odd to me is that these same people who want to fight the government are the same ones who want to fund the Defense Department to obscene degrees.

Duh.

Anyway, I actually got a fairly rational response from one person.

He said they know they can't defeat the US Military. Can't even come close. But he sees himself and others who agree with him as insurgents; they can't win against Goliath, but they can cause them a lot of grief in the process.

I thought that was interesting.

[Recursion]

8. The story I hear more is the looters after fiat currency (or whatever) collapses (nt)

[Amonester]

9. Also, many of them nuts are absolutely convinced that, should they ever revolt taking arms...

that the military would immediately, and without any hesitation, take THEIR side and support THEM

Now why is that I have no clue.... or is it because rush limbot is on the AF radio???


The worst thing is, many of them idiots may be actively looking for the Internet links on how to make pressure-cooker shits.

Hello public rallies?

[Vietnameravet]

10. Very good observation..

about preparing to fight the government while at the same time funding the military to obscene degrees..

[BanzaiBonnie]

18. Isn't that the about the same thing as terrorists?

At least it's close to what that looks like.

[OneGrassRoot]

20. Yes!

The same people who loathe insurgents in other countries (regardless of the reason for the insurgency or details; I think they tend to loathe them simply because they're not white and Christian), seem to also admire them.

Maybe the guy who replied to me is unusual and others don't share his view, but I did find his response quite interesting and, unlike other replies, logical to a degree, even if I disagree with it.

[dairydog91]

7. Oh look, it's this crap again.

[Lizzie Poppet]

19. +1

Same old oversimplification...

[madrchsod]

12. you mean the facebook meme going around about russia?

according to that meme the 2000 million russian peasants would`t have been killed during the commie take over if they just had guns. yes the first thing the commies did was to take away the guns. in fact that applies to any country taken over by the commies.

did the russian peasants have enough money to choose food or a gun and bullets?

[malaise]

16. That's an NRA meme meant to treat the sale of weapons everywhere like football boots

Fuck them

[HereSince1628]

13. Against one of two guys the asymmetry was obvious

The pipe-dreams of apocalypsers successfully standing as individuals against a nation are absurd

But, as the old manual for urban warfare says one urban fighter can keep scores of the opposition busy.

Tsarneiv seems to have tied up a thousand or so, although many were idle in close reserve, and those thousands seem to have actually failed in their mission to find him. The prima faciae evidence is that a civilian found him.


It's an entirely different game when the insurgents get organized and have community support.

Even relatively small numbers of insurgents with relatively limited community support carried on insurgencies for years sometimes generations, in places we recognize like Northern Ireland, Lebanon, and Sri Lanka.

[badtoworse]

17. +1

[pipoman]

14. Compound words are part of the English language...

http://www.learningdifferences.com/Main%20Page/Topics/Compound%20Word%20Lists/Compound_Word_%20Lists_complete.htm

[harmonicon]

15. I sometimes post when I'm drunk.

I just assume the same goes for others.

[cliffordu]

21. I am convinced I do.

Or maybe my cat has learned to type when I sleep.

[hifiguy]

26. Cats use our computers

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just to prank us and mess with us.

Of this I am certain.

[Marrah_G]

22. Guns would not have changed anything monday

and they would have made yesterday a disaster

[Locrian]

23. I think ....

I think they blather on about the gubmet but they *really* are arming to feel safe against their neighbors. Especially, you know, *those* type of people (sarcasm).

[sarisataka]

24. Allow me to take the role of devil's advocate

In common parlance, a devil's advocate is someone who, given a certain argument, takes a position he or she does not necessarily agree with, for the sake of debate. In taking this position, the individual taking on the devil's advocate role seeks to engage others in an argumentative discussion process. The purpose of such process is typically to test the quality of the original argument and identify weaknesses in its structure, and to use such information to either improve or abandon the original, opposing position. It can also refer to someone who takes a stance that is seen as unpopular or unconventional, but is actually another way of arguing a much more conventional stance.

In this case, an untrained 19 year old who had already been wounded required a major city to essentially shut down. Hundreds, if not thousands, of law enforcement personnel conducted a 20 hour manhunt to apprehend him.
Though law enforcement did succeed, it must be taken into account this suspect had not made prior preparations for countering a large manhunt, had no sympathy or support for the local population and was not actively trying to counterattack the police.

Imagine if you will a group of ten men, perhaps three with formal training who have spent months preparing supplies, caches and safe houses. In addition they have a political agenda that is sympathetic with 5% of the population. While this population will not aid them in direct action they will give aid and succor. The men can reasonably expect food, short term shelter, medical assistance and passive obstruction of police operations.


Now the end result is the same. These ten men would end up dead or apprehended eventually. What would the cost be in time, dollars, manpower and public support. Too heavy of a hand could increase the percentage of population that supported their cause.

To win, an insurrection does not need total victory...

[OneMoreDemocrat]

25. On the other hand...

Those folks in Watertown who were hiding in their houses yesterday while Boston's finest failed to find a guy hiding in plain sight may have felt a little less cowardly if they had a firearm in their home for protection once they realized the assembled strike forces weren't going to be of much help.