My SiS-N-Law Hates Me NOW

[rsmith6621]

She called this morning complaining about how bad her feet are and that she will need therapy and possibly surgery. She is 65 and a Christian conservative that has now knowledge of why she believes what she believes politically except for the fact that the Pastor of her church is heavily associated with the republican party in So- CAL and preaches a political conservative bias from the pulpit.

She has only basic medical insurance that has a very high deductible that she cant afford so I asked her how in the hell is she going afford to have a surgical procedure...she said she has started the process with the stater of California and has asked medicaid......

Well I might have been a bit insensitive but I said I thought you were for lesser government?? Doesn't your party believe in lesser to no government involvement in peoples life,?

She was huffing and all she said was I am going to take advantage of everything I can until Mitt becomes President... I just told her I was going to shake the brains out of my head.

errrrrrrrr

[JoePhilly]

1. At which point, she can die ...

[MattBaggins]

16. It boggles the mind doesn't it?

[CaliforniaPeggy]

2. Some people just don't get it, until it happens to them.

Your sister-in-law is one of them.

My sympathies.



Oh, and you are not being insensitive. You are pointing out the realities of "insurance."

[madaboutharry]

3. She should hate herself

for being so misinformed and ignorant.

[Cleita]

4. Why is she buying insurance with high deductibles?

She's eligible for Medicare at sixty five. It has a hundred dollar deductible and pays 80% of her medical costs and if she buys a supplemental insurance like from AARP they cover the 20%. The supplemental is probably a lot less than she pays now. If she can't afford a supplemental then she's eligible for Medical to pick up the copays, however, not too many doctors like to accept Medical. I haven't run into a doctor that won't accept Medicare with a supplemental yet here in California.

As for what she thinks Mitt will do for her, she just has rocks in her head and no doctor can fix that.

[lpbk2713]

5. You can choose your friends but you can't choose your family.

In-laws included.

Go placidly among the noise and haste.

[Populist_Prole]

6. Sounds like a guy at work.

An Atlas Shrugged reading conservative loudmouth. Games the system for all its worth then complains of big government. Bashes Obama at every chance, then brags about how he took his "cash for clunkers" money and bought an import, as he put it "To pork GM and Chysler" because they got bailout money. Vile.

[ThoughtCriminal]

12. People who really "Game the system" and then complain about the system

Are often really good at projecting.

[vaberella]

27. They are just horrible mean people.

My friend is part of a conservative family and I asked his grandmother through him as the mediator what if Obama didn't bail out Ford. She said it would have been better. When I explained that it's a historical company and a testament of American greatness, trying to appeal to some sort of American pride--she said then it shouldn't have reached it's point of going bankrupt and would deserve whatever it got. When I asked what about the hundreds of thousands of people that would be out of work if those companies went down she said that it's their problem. I could not believe it. On a personal level she's a fun lady. On a political level she's a cold heartless bitch who has no understanding of being an American or protecting this nation.

[Liberal Veteran]

7. It is "Everyone else milks the system unfairly, except me." syndrome.

I know one person who is on disability for HIV and pretty much all his bills are paid by the government. Hates democrats and thinks socialism is destroying America.

Another person I know has 3 kids, has subsidized HUD housing and food stamps, but thinks Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity hung the moon and votes republican.

Meanwhile, I have HIV (advanced) and heart disease and still work a 40 hour week, get no government assistance, and am the breadwinner in my home who is looked at as the bleeding heart commie liberal who hates America.

I know exactly that feeling of shaking your head in utter disbelief.

[MattBaggins]

18. Just out of curiosity, are these people white?

I went to visit my godfather as he was literally on his death bed (died the next weekend from pancreatic cancer). This was just after the 2010 elections where the republicans won and she commented to my father how glad she was that "our side had won".

I hear this crap all the time in rural Upstate NY. Point out to people the fact that a higher percentage of Upstate NY is on the dole and they don't care. They are OK with "our people" getting help they just don't want "those people" getting help.

It's what really gets me when all the idiots running connect public assistance with "black people". They openly without thinking say "I'm not interested in helping Black People". You will never hear a repub say "I'm not interested in helping poor white rural people" will you?

[Liberal Veteran]

19. Yes. Both (so am I for that matter).

And yes, I have noted an undertone of racism in both.

It wouldn't be a stretch to surmise that prejudice is the foundation of their counter-intuitive political leanings.

[LynnTTT]

8. Neighbor's daughter

Neighbor was thrilled to be able to add her daughter to their health insurance. The daughter graduated from college but is working two jobs without insurance. But I've talked to the husband at neighborhood functions and he's still a Republican and thinks Obama is running us into the ground.

[GoCubsGo]

9. I am not sure I understand.

Is she going to "take advantage of everything I can until Mitt becomes President" because knows he will destroy the safety net, and she needs to get it while she can? Or, is she admitting that President Obama's policies are actually helping her out?

[vaberella]

28. It seems like it's both in actuality.

They seem to like their cake and eating it too; even if it doesn't make an ounce of sense.

[OnionPatch]

30. The answer is quite simple. She believes that she and people like her deserve it more.

Because, you see, they think they are the only ones funding the programs and people that are, uhemm......let's say NOT like her are just milking the system. Elitism, pure and simple. And they call us elitists.

[The Genealogist]

10. Typical, I think, of that mindset

I see it among my conservative family members. A new government program comes out, and the first thing they do is see how much they can milk it, including ways they can be less than honest about milking it. The second thing they do is piss and moan about how the program is socialism. Just odd and hypocritical.

[NNN0LHI]

11. Has your SiS-N-Law ever exhibited any signs of racism before?

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Most of the right wing lunatics I know would vote for someone who would completely end Medicaid and take the chance of dying themselves from lack of medical care if that would prevent "those other people"' from receiving the same benefit.

But if it is available they will be like your SiS-N-Law and be the first one looking for the government to help them.

Don

[CTyankee]

13. I am sorry to say that you gave me a huge laugh with that last line...

I should be more sensitive...oh god....these people don't even hear themselves...I wonder how in hell they live. They have got to be living in torment always...this is the evil of the repub party...

[WillowTree]

14. If she's 65, why isn't she on Medicare?

[SammyWinstonJack]

21. Maybe she didn't work enough to be eligible for Medicare?

Apparently based on my work history which is less than 10 yrs I am not eligible for preminum free Medicare. I don't know what that means exactly,
but I did receive a letter saying as much

Also not eligible to collect Social Security on my own because I am five credits short.

[jbnow]

23. Medicare is never premium free

It costs $100 month (or more for higher income people) that they deduct from social security check

But you are correct that if one doesn't have enough work credits either on our own work history or spouse's (or ex-spouse if married 10+ years) then we don't qualify for social security or Medicare.
Rather if we are very low income with almost no assets we could get SSI (supplemental security income) and Medicaid

[saras]

15. At least she's an honest Republican. Steal what you can when you can.

You can't be hypocritical unless you do something wrong to lie about, and you can't be a Republican without being hypocritical.

[Riley18]

17. Typical response. Once she gets hers then the hell with everyone else.

Doesn't California have any decent Medicare programs?

[SpartanDem]

20. I've never understood people like this

do they really think that Republicans are just talking about black people when they say they want to cut the very government programs they are using?

[stockholmer]

25. it is called willful ignorance

[Duppers]

22. She's the very definition of hypocrisy

I wouldn't worry about her.

My hubby and I have had to ditch (avoid all contact with) all of his family and most of mine because of their insane stances of politics and other matters. It was tough at first but we're glad we haven't had to deal with (placate) those people in the long term.

[truth2power]

24. See? They always come up with an exception adequate to get THEIR needs met...

Logic has no part in this.

I often wonder if these cretins who are applauding and cheering letting people die for want of medical care ever wind up in that very situation themselves. And what do they think, then?

But I guess thinking doesn't enter into it. They'll cling to their petty, grasping world-view until they draw their last breath. Unbelievable!

[UnrepentantLiberal]

26. I've gotten fed up and said that to people at work.

If you hate liberals so much, why are you in the union? Doesn't that make you a HUGE hypocrite?

[Populist_Prole]

29. I've asked the same thing

Of the person I referred to in the thread above. You see, we are union as well and I ask how can he square in his mind that the politics he practices are in absolute opposition to our employment situation, being represented by a union and having a legally enforce-able contract. To him, he thinks this works out the best for him personally; basically the best of both worlds in, in his mind. It sounds crazy but from his Ayn Randian 'Atlas Shrugged' point of view, it all makes sense. He's just looking out for #1 and so should everybody else, and if his opposition doesn't, he's that much further ahead.

We have a few who are like that, though I don't know that they are ideologues to the degree he is, that are quite lazy, let others do the hard work and only do what they have to do unless they are forced to, groan grumble and complain, then count every nickel and demand the absolute top dollar for it - Yet: when they are in a situation where they are the "employer" like where they hire a contractor to work on their home, property etc, they are cheap bastards that DEMAND stellar work for the most rock bottom pay. They are assholes. I have to deal with them civilly, but I really do hate them.