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cash__whatiwant

(396 posts)
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:43 AM Apr 2013

Boston Bomb Suspect's Dad Tells Him to Surrender, Warns ' Hell Will Break Loose' if Son Dies

The father of suspected Boston Marathon bomber called on his son today to give up peacefully, but warned the U.S. that if his son is killed "all hell will break loose."

Anzor Tsarnaev spoke to ABC News from his home in the Russian city of Makhachkala as Boston police carried out an intense dragnet for his son Dzhokhar Tsarnaev.

Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, 19, survived a running gun battle with police during the night that left an MIT security officer dead and a Boston cop badly wounded. His older brother Tamerlan Tsarnaev, 26, died in the shootout.

The father said he spoke to his sons by phone earlier this week. "We talked about the bombing. I was worried about then," Anzor Tsarnaev said.

He said his sons reassured him, saying, "Everything is good, Daddy. Everything is very good."

The elder Tsarnaev insisted that his sons were innocent, but said he would appeal to his son to "surrender peacefully."

"Give up. Give up. You have a bright future ahead of you. Come home to Russia," the dad said.

The father warned, however, "If they killed him, then all hell would break loose."

"If they kill my second child, I will know that it is an inside job, a hit job. The police are to blame," the father told ABC News. "Someone, some organization is out to get them."

http://abcnews.go.com/US/boston-bomb-suspects-dad-tells-son-surrender-hell/story?id=18995936#.UXFdSXmLWxM

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Boston Bomb Suspect's Dad Tells Him to Surrender, Warns ' Hell Will Break Loose' if Son Dies (Original Post) cash__whatiwant Apr 2013 OP
Uncle said parents live right here Marrah_G Apr 2013 #1
I thought he said their dad recently moved back to Russia. nt City Lights Apr 2013 #6
Its all such chaos today Marrah_G Apr 2013 #12
Yes, and it's difficult to keep it all straight. City Lights Apr 2013 #17
He did and the father is speaking from Russia n/t malaise Apr 2013 #13
he did krawhitham Apr 2013 #47
The neighbor in Cambridge said that the father moved back to Russia a year ago. MADem Apr 2013 #48
Interesting information! Thanks! nt City Lights Apr 2013 #57
No--that's not what the uncle said. He said the little shits were bringing disgrace on Chechans, MADem Apr 2013 #21
I'd be more afraid of HIS wrath than the government's. He didn't mince words. Buns_of_Fire Apr 2013 #54
The interview with the aunt (up in Canada) was pretty interesting, too. MADem Apr 2013 #60
this is all the stoopid need to start some more conspiracy theories snooper2 Apr 2013 #2
Shut up, Anzor! MineralMan Apr 2013 #3
+1 Paul E Ester Apr 2013 #36
In Russian: заткнись! MineralMan Apr 2013 #53
It is quite unfair to judge the family in this case still_one Apr 2013 #4
Who is judging? The OP merely reports what the father said. yellowcanine Apr 2013 #38
I am not criticizing the op, I am making a comment. It is the same comment still_one Apr 2013 #58
This guy doesn't seem to have a clear grip on realitiy Drale Apr 2013 #5
He darn sure ain't "coming home to Russia" OriginalGeek Apr 2013 #22
Who knows Russia's a crazy place and out "news" agencies don't have a good track record on this Drale Apr 2013 #39
The uncle said that the father of the kids WAS in USA but left--he was a "loser" who couldn't MADem Apr 2013 #50
He won't be "coming home to Russia" alive, at least meow2u3 Apr 2013 #52
If the family will even pay for the casket and transportation. LiberalFighter Apr 2013 #56
They "talked about the bombing" before it happened? riqster Apr 2013 #7
He is in Russia. LisaL Apr 2013 #9
Phones work to talk with kids, and they work to call cops, too. riqster Apr 2013 #15
They talked about it on TUESDAY, in the context of "Are you all right? Are you safe? I heard MADem Apr 2013 #24
Earlier this week means B2G Apr 2013 #18
I think he was saying... Whiskeytide Apr 2013 #30
No. They had a conversation after the fact. And the kids didn't admit to anything. MADem Apr 2013 #40
The way I read it is that they spoke on the telephone after the bombing. Jenoch Apr 2013 #45
Sounds like the father knows more than he's saying. justiceischeap Apr 2013 #8
You're presuming they told him they committed it. Chan790 Apr 2013 #29
Not necessarily kudzu22 Apr 2013 #34
Sure did and after all body parts his kids blew apart, dad has the nerve to suggest DeschutesRiver Apr 2013 #42
So when will they seek to extradite the father on the charge of accessory... Agnosticsherbet Apr 2013 #10
Russia would not extradite a Russian citizen. LisaL Apr 2013 #14
Ethnic Russians waste no pity on Chechnyans who support terror. Ikonoklast Apr 2013 #49
Good grief, CONTEXT, people. The father had an "Are you safe?" talk with the kid on TUESDAY. MADem Apr 2013 #28
"all hell will break loose" --it already did on Monday, thanks to your son, asswipe, nt geek tragedy Apr 2013 #11
Last evening in Cambridge and Watertown was horrific as well. avaistheone1 Apr 2013 #41
exactly! Blue_Roses Apr 2013 #61
Sounds like a terroristic threat to me n2doc Apr 2013 #16
Again, he is in Russia. LisaL Apr 2013 #27
From their actions, it seems hard to believe they are innocent. AndyA Apr 2013 #19
I am pretty sure we are passed "going to the police" stage here. LisaL Apr 2013 #25
Good rightsideout Apr 2013 #20
Sound like the father is nuts samplegirl Apr 2013 #23
Sounds like the father is still under the impression that his "little angel" is innocent. MADem Apr 2013 #33
The father sounds like an extremist prone Shankapotomus Apr 2013 #26
Sounds like Dzhokhar Tsarnaev has loopy daddy wrapped around his finger flamingdem Apr 2013 #31
I believe he is a student. LisaL Apr 2013 #32
UMASS Dartmouth has been evacuated. nt MADem Apr 2013 #35
studying! flamingdem Apr 2013 #37
Yes. I care if he lives. redqueen Apr 2013 #46
That's one of the reasons why life in prison without parole Zorra Apr 2013 #55
It's much better to get him alive so that we can know if he and his brother acted alone or... JVS Apr 2013 #51
Makhachkala is in Dagestan, FarCenter Apr 2013 #43
I hope they take him alive and treat him fairly aint_no_life_nowhere Apr 2013 #44
"Come home to Russia"? I hate to break it to you pops, that will never happen Baclava Apr 2013 #59
Sounds like the nuts didn't fall far from the tree. Zoeisright Apr 2013 #62

City Lights

(25,171 posts)
17. Yes, and it's difficult to keep it all straight.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:50 AM
Apr 2013

Especially on a lack of sleep!

I'm glad I have DU to reference!

MADem

(135,425 posts)
48. The neighbor in Cambridge said that the father moved back to Russia a year ago.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:14 PM
Apr 2013

He also said the oldest kid spent a year wearing halfassed "religious" garb--the big beard, the head covering, the self-important clothing....and then, one day, he turned up clean-shaven in "European" clothing. He thought it was a phase.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
21. No--that's not what the uncle said. He said the little shits were bringing disgrace on Chechans,
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:51 AM
Apr 2013

that his view of the reason for the bombing is that the elder kid wasn't successful, and that the father--his brother--who, like him, is a Muslim--was not a crazed fundy; that the kids got "radicalized" but not by him. The father is still over the water--he is not in USA.

The uncle was furious in his statement to the press--he was spitting mad that these two shits disgraced the family name and the nationality of Chechans.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,175 posts)
54. I'd be more afraid of HIS wrath than the government's. He didn't mince words.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:33 PM
Apr 2013

But I could tell he was heartbroken about it at the same time. I think he's a good man. I hope his family doesn't suffer any repercussions.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
60. The interview with the aunt (up in Canada) was pretty interesting, too.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 02:48 PM
Apr 2013

She was rather brusque, to put it kindly, used the word "shit" on network tee vee at least twice, she insulted the reporters asking questions, and had a definite attitude about this whole mess. She thinks the nephews are innocent, they're pure as the driven snow, it's all a big mistake. Yeah, I guess tossing pressure cooker bombs at the police as one tries to make their getaway is just all a big mistake...!

I would imagine what made it worse, and perhaps contributes to the cognitive dissonance, is that she was the one who got the ball rolling on the family's immigration as a consequence of "persecuted" status.

She also provided additional info about this guy--apparently, he hasn't been working lately, his wife is bringing home the turkey bacon (not a big deal in the west, but it explains the uncle's "loser" comments):


http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/story/2013/04/19/pol-boston-marathon-bombings-aunt-toronto.html




She said Tamerlan is married to a woman that she described as a Christian, and that he's been staying at home taking care of his daughter while his wife worked. About two years ago, she said, he became more interested in his Muslim faith, and started praying five times a day.

Tsarnaeva said she isn't ready yet to believe Tamerlan is dead. She also said she spoke to someone at the FBI on Friday morning to tell them the two men are her nephews and that they are innocent, but that authorities have not contacted her.

It's because of the Chechen connection, she said, that her nephews are being targeted, but she pointed out that the two had spent only a year in Chechnya when the family attempted to move back. Dzhokhar was a toddler at the time, she said. Once war broke out, they left and eventually ended up in the U.S. as refugees in 2002.

Tsarnaeva, who says she was a lawyer in Kyrgyzstan, questions the evidence authorities have on her nephews.


I hope they air that full interview again--it was interesting.

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
38. Who is judging? The OP merely reports what the father said.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:57 AM
Apr 2013

I don't see any judging whatsoever. I did hear what sounded like unfounded accusations and a threat from the father though. That's just the truth, not judging.

still_one

(92,187 posts)
58. I am not criticizing the op, I am making a comment. It is the same comment
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:50 PM
Apr 2013

I would make about any incident where the the perpetrators families were asked what do you think if their family member was a murderer

Drale

(7,932 posts)
5. This guy doesn't seem to have a clear grip on realitiy
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:46 AM
Apr 2013

if they capture this kid alive, and he's guilty, and his actions seem to point to yes, he's going to spend the rest of his life in a US prison.

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
22. He darn sure ain't "coming home to Russia"
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:52 AM
Apr 2013

but on the other note - how is dad in Russia? I could have sworn I heard an interview this morning with an uncle (Heavy Russian accent) that said parents were here in US. I might have heard Maryland. The interviewer asked if they could go interview the father and uncle gave an address out right over the air and the first thing I thought was "Well, great - you just sent redneck militia to their house" but then they said that the interview was recorded earlier so I figure the police would already be there....

Drale

(7,932 posts)
39. Who knows Russia's a crazy place and out "news" agencies don't have a good track record on this
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:58 AM
Apr 2013

event to begin with. I guess its possible, this uncle is not even related to them and just looking for fame or that the "father" is doing to same thing, or that the father was in the US but went back to Russia.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
50. The uncle said that the father of the kids WAS in USA but left--he was a "loser" who couldn't
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:17 PM
Apr 2013

make a go of business here. The uncle is furious, he says these two little shits have disgraced the family name and the name of a Chechans in the US.

The neighbor (in Cambridge) said the father left USA a year ago.

meow2u3

(24,761 posts)
52. He won't be "coming home to Russia" alive, at least
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:17 PM
Apr 2013

When he dies in Federal prison (if he's convicted, which he'll very probably be), he'll be brought home to Russia in a casket. Mark my words; he won't see the light of day.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
15. Phones work to talk with kids, and they work to call cops, too.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:49 AM
Apr 2013

At least call the local cops, who can alert ours.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
24. They talked about it on TUESDAY, in the context of "Are you all right? Are you safe? I heard
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:53 AM
Apr 2013

there was a bombing where you live..." not "How'd that bombing go?"

Whiskeytide

(4,461 posts)
30. I think he was saying...
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:54 AM
Apr 2013

... he spoke to them about the bombings because he'd heard about them and was worried about their safety. I didn't get that they confessed to him or indicated to him that they were involved. Maybe I got it wrong, but ...

MADem

(135,425 posts)
40. No. They had a conversation after the fact. And the kids didn't admit to anything.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:00 PM
Apr 2013

The uncle says the reason for them doing this is because they were "losers" who "could not settle themselves" (i.e. they were not successful).

The uncle (he lives in MD, not VA) also said the father has had no influence over the kids (understandable, they have been here ten years).

The uncle says "Turn yourself in!"

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
45. The way I read it is that they spoke on the telephone after the bombing.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:04 PM
Apr 2013

The father says his sons did not plant the bombs.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
8. Sounds like the father knows more than he's saying.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:47 AM
Apr 2013

If his kids called and talked to him about the bombing earlier this week, then he knew before the rest of the world who was responsible.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
29. You're presuming they told him they committed it.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:54 AM
Apr 2013

No such thing has been said by anybody. Perhaps they did, perhaps not. We don't know.

I called my mommy earlier this week and we talked about the bombing too.

DeschutesRiver

(2,354 posts)
42. Sure did and after all body parts his kids blew apart, dad has the nerve to suggest
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:03 PM
Apr 2013

That if his own killer son is killed, all hell will break lose in the US.

So just pick up his wayward lost son and ship him back home to us in Russia, okay...or else this is all a conspiracy and Americans are to blame. Dad was probably helping to arrange a flight back for them or a hideout stateside. Maybe the kids behavior/attitude was a learned one from dear old dad.

He is going to lose his remaining miscreant child whether to death or prison and there isnt a thing he can do to stop it. If this were my kid, it would break my heart but the outcome wouldn't surprise me, nor would I help them hide from what they did as though it was no big deal.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
10. So when will they seek to extradite the father on the charge of accessory...
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:47 AM
Apr 2013

to comit murder.

It is also clear, now, that the U.S. government's ability to spy on everyone's phone calls isn't as efficient as some say.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
28. Good grief, CONTEXT, people. The father had an "Are you safe?" talk with the kid on TUESDAY.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:54 AM
Apr 2013

He didn't know the kid(s) were responsible for the bombing, and they didn't tell him. He thinks the 19 year old is an "angel" who is a "medical student."

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
16. Sounds like a terroristic threat to me
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:50 AM
Apr 2013

Arrest him and toss him in Jail. I know he is in shock over his son's death, but fuck him. Let him get over it in solitary so that he doesn't try to emulate them.

AndyA

(16,993 posts)
19. From their actions, it seems hard to believe they are innocent.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:50 AM
Apr 2013

If so, why not just go to the police like the other guy did to clear themselves? (Guy pictured on front page of the rag New York Post yesterday.)

What in the world happened to these two brothers to make them hate people so much? I feel sorry for their family, but I have more sorrow for the innocent victims of this senseless tragedy. Threatening that all hell will break loose isn't a good move, either.

rightsideout

(978 posts)
20. Good
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:51 AM
Apr 2013

Then let all hell break loose. You don't come to live in our country and kill our people and get away with it.

It's not a "set up" if your kids are lobbing bombs and firing back at police.



MADem

(135,425 posts)
33. Sounds like the father is still under the impression that his "little angel" is innocent.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:56 AM
Apr 2013

He talked to his kids on Tuesday and they didn't admit to anything.

Once he starts thinking about it, he'll probably realize they called him to say goodbye.

The Uncle in VA has the bubble on those two.


Edit--Uncle is in MD.

Shankapotomus

(4,840 posts)
26. The father sounds like an extremist prone
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:53 AM
Apr 2013

to wild pronouncements and threats. That explains his children a lot.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
31. Sounds like Dzhokhar Tsarnaev has loopy daddy wrapped around his finger
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:54 AM
Apr 2013

Wake up call on the horizon.

DO we really care if Dzhokhar lives? If he's mostly just a loser/hateful psychopath are we better off if he suicides and gets it over with..

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
46. Yes. I care if he lives.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:05 PM
Apr 2013

Death is an easy out. People who commit such horrendous crimes should not be allowed to escape the full weight of their conscience when it eventually kicks in, and if it doesn't they should still live and suffer in prison, not escape reality entirely.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
55. That's one of the reasons why life in prison without parole
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:37 PM
Apr 2013

can actually be a much more severe punishment than the death penalty.

Karla Faye
by Mary Gauthier

A little girl lost,
Her world full of pain.
He said it feels good,
She gave him her vein.
The dope made her numb
And numb felt like free.
Until she came down,down,down
To a new misery.

A junkie a whore,
Living for the next high.
She'd lie cheat and steal,
She forgot how to cry.
Wide awake for two weeks,
Shooting heroin then speed,
When she killed in cold,cold blood
All she felt was her need.

CHORUS
It's an eye for an eye,
Now you're gonna die
A tooth for a tooth,
It's your moment of truth.
There's no mercy here
Your stay is denied
Go on and pray,pray,pray
There's Mercy in the sky.

Alone in her cell,
No dope in her veins.
The killer'd become,
Little girl lost again.
She fell to her knees.
She prayed she would die.
On the cold cement floor,
She finally cried.

And love came like the wind
Love whispered her name.
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Lifted her pain.
15 years on death row,
Her faith deeper each day.
Her last words were "I love you all,"
Good-bye, Karla Faye.

Now it's an eye for an eye,
And you're gonna die
A tooth for a tooth,
It's your moment of truth.
There's no mercy here
Your stay is denied
Go on and pray,pray,pray

JVS

(61,935 posts)
51. It's much better to get him alive so that we can know if he and his brother acted alone or...
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:17 PM
Apr 2013

within an organization.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
44. I hope they take him alive and treat him fairly
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:04 PM
Apr 2013

Already I fear that these two brothers will become big heroes in Chechnya. We don't want to arouse any unneeded anger against the United States if possible among Chechnyan extremists.

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
59. "Come home to Russia"? I hate to break it to you pops, that will never happen
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 01:31 PM
Apr 2013

Even if by some miracle your mad-dog bomber son is caught alive and doesn't blow himself up or get 100 bullets to his brain, he's going to be in prison for the rest of his life or be killed by the general population in prison.

have a nice day

Zoeisright

(8,339 posts)
62. Sounds like the nuts didn't fall far from the tree.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 02:56 PM
Apr 2013

Listen, DAD, if your kids killed innocent people, they surrendered their right to life.

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