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Archae

(46,326 posts)
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 09:42 PM Apr 2013

70 years ago, a bunch of guys with balls of titanium went on a mission...

They flew B-25 bombers off the deck of an aircraft carrier, and those bombers, led by one piloted by Doolittle, dropped a few bombs on Japan, especially Tokyo.



Don't forget Japan looked invincible, not only had Pearl Harbor happened, but two British battleships were blown to pieces by Japanese aircraft.

Those bombs did really minor damage to Tokyo and a couple other Japanese cities.

But Japanese brass had convinced everyone their country was invincible and couldn't ever be attacked.
So those bombs punctured that view, and led to the battle of Midway, where the Japanese lost their ass.

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70 years ago, a bunch of guys with balls of titanium went on a mission... (Original Post) Archae Apr 2013 OP
...all while knowing they couldn't return in the planes , no matter how well things went. Nt pkdu Apr 2013 #1
Yes. That took more than just a bit of personal resolve. HereSince1628 Apr 2013 #3
The plan was to fly to China, and then ??? DreamGypsy Apr 2013 #5
Minimal damage but a big psychological boost to the USA neverforget Apr 2013 #2
I've never heard of it either. Archae Apr 2013 #4
"30 Seconds Over Tokyo" longship Apr 2013 #6

DreamGypsy

(2,252 posts)
5. The plan was to fly to China, and then ???
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 11:16 PM
Apr 2013

...since the Billy Mitchell's didn't have the range to return to the U.S. and they were too big to land on the carrier USS Hornet that had brought them to within 650 nautical miles from Japan.

From Wikipedia:

After the bombing -

Fifteen of the sixteen aircraft then proceeded southwest along the southern coast of Japan and across the East China Sea toward eastern China, where several fields in Zhejiang province were supposed to be ready to guide them in using homing beacons, then recover and refuel them for continuing on to Chongqing, the wartime Kuomintang capital.[14] The primary base was at Zhuzhou, toward which all the aircraft navigated, but Halsey never sent the planned signal to alert them, apparently because of a possible threat to the task force. One B-25, piloted by Capt. Edward J. York, was extremely low on fuel, and headed instead for the closer Soviet Union.

<snip>

Fifteen aircraft reached the Chinese coast after thirteen hours of flight and crash landed or bailed out; the crew who flew to the Soviet Union landed 40 miles (65 km) beyond Vladivostok, where their B-25 was confiscated and the crew interned. It was the longest combat mission ever flown by the B-25 Mitchell medium bomber, averaging approximately 2,250 nautical miles (4,170 km). Although York and others were well-treated, diplomatic attempts to return them to the United States ultimately failed. Eventually they were relocated to Ashgabat, 20 miles (32 km) from the Iranian border, and York managed to "bribe" a smuggler, who helped them cross the border and reach a nearby British consulate on 11 May 1943.[2][3] The smuggling was actually staged by the NKVD, according to declassified Soviet archives, because the Soviet government was unable to repatriate them legally in the face of the neutrality pact with Japan.

<snip>

Following the Doolittle Raid, most of the B-25 crews that came down in China eventually made it to safety with the help of Chinese civilians and soldiers. Of the 80 airmen that participated in the raid, 69 escaped capture and death. When the Chinese helped the Americans escape, the grateful Americans in turn gave them whatever they had on hand. The people who helped them, however, paid dearly for sheltering the Americans.

The Japanese military began the Zhejiang-Jiangxi Campaign to intimidate the Chinese from helping downed American airmen. All airfields in a range of some 20,000 square miles (50,000 km2) in the areas where the Raiders had landed were torn up.[27] The use of germ warfare and other atrocities were committed, and those found with American items were shot. The Japanese killed an estimated 250,000 Chinese civilians during their search for Doolittle's men.


War is Hell.

(ps: Just a nit. The raid took place 71 years, April 18, 1942.)

neverforget

(9,436 posts)
2. Minimal damage but a big psychological boost to the USA
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 09:51 PM
Apr 2013

after Pearl Harbor.

Have you heard of this raid on April 14, 1942 from Australia on Japanese shipping? I'd never heard of it until I read it in a magazine last month.

http://www.defensemedianetwork.com/stories/the-royce-special-mission/

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/50147845

longship

(40,416 posts)
6. "30 Seconds Over Tokyo"
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 11:26 PM
Apr 2013
Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo by Ted Lawson who injured in the raid had to escape into Occupied China where he and his crew hid. He lost a leg due to infection while in China dodging the advancing Japanese and returned safely to the States later.

I read it when I was in Junior High in 1961 or 62. Great story. A good read, IIRC.

It was made into an eponymous movie in 1944 starring Van Johnson as Lawson and Spencer Tracy as Jimmie Doolittle. Not a bad flick as war flicks go.
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