Joey Scar is flat-out SAVAGING the NRA and all those who voted against ...

[11 Bravo]

the background checks. Calmly and methodically, he is calling them cowards and liars.

90 percent of the time I want to reach into the TV and throttle him, but today he's getting it right.

[aquart]

1. Yes, indeedy.

[southern_belle]

2. and i hope he keeps it up! eom

[NRaleighLiberal]

3. broken clocks, the correct time, and all of that...don't forget. n/t

[starroute]

19. He's a little better than that

Rand Paul is a broken clock. He's on the right side of issues only when something happens to coincide with his kneejerk principles. But Scarborough actually has moments when he seems to be thinking clearly and reaching appropriate conclusions. They're just few and far between.

[PearliePoo2]

4. It's relentless. Mika is showing non-stop...

the faces of the "Hall of Shame". They are putting the cowards on almost an endless loop.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

5. Joe Scarborough, the Republican Congressman turned MSNBC host?

[11 Bravo]

7. That's the guy.

Hard to believe, I know.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

8. And he's helping the 2014 Democratic candidates?

The issue will probably help the 2014 Democratic candidates as much as the AWB helped the 1994 Democratic candidates.

How did that work out?

What are the odds that Joe the-Republican Scarborough knows?

[Ikonoklast]

16. The vast majority of both party members of the general electorate are for background checks.

Your NRA talking point is bullshit.

[Mango40]

21. Bill Clinton Claimed a Relationship between the AWB and the loss of the Democratic House

Even though he's been refuted lately, Bill Clinton famously blamed the 1994 Assault Weapon Ban vote and Gore's anti-guns stance for Al Gore's 2000 presidential campaign loss.

In 1994, the Democratic-controlled House and Senate narrowly passed the ban on the sale and possession of 19 semiautomatic guns and ammunition cmagazines holding more than 10 rounds. " Proponents of the ban said those weapons and copycat versions that do not fall under the ban are frequently used in violent crimes, including the deaths of scores of law enforcement officials. Opponents said the ban violates the constitutional right to bear arms."

"In May 1994, the Democratic-controlled House passed the Clinton-backed gun ban by two votes. A few months later, House Speaker Thomas Foley (Wash.), Judiciary Committee Chairman Jack Brooks (Tex.) and several other Democrats who supported the ban were voted out of office after the NRA and other gun activists targeted them in a political campaign."

"The NRA's power ebbed and flowed throughout the rest of the 1990s, hitting a high-water mark after Gore's narrow loss in 2000. Gore lost gun rights bastions such as Arkansas, West Virginia and his home state of Tennessee, in part, some Democratic analysts believe, because he was seen as hostile to gun owners"
http://www.federalobserver.com/archive.php?aid=5831

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/bill-clinton-warns-democrats-against-overreaching-on-gun-debate/

"Former President Bill Clinton warned a group of top Democratic donors at a private Saturday meeting not to underestimate the passions that gun control stirs among many Americans.
“Do not patronize the passionate supporters of your opponents by looking down your nose at them,” Clinton said.
“Alot of these people live in a world very different from the world lived in by the people proposing these things,” Clinton said. “I know because I come from this world.”

"And Clinton said that passing the 1994 federal assault weapons ban “devastated” more than a dozen Democratic lawmakers in the 1994 midterms — and cost then-Speaker of the House Tom Foley (D-Wash.) his job and his seat in Congress.
“I’ve had many sleepless nights in the many years since,” Clinton said."

[Ikonoklast]

22. And this country is vastly different from then.

90% of the electorate support universal background checks.

TODAY.

[magical thyme]

23. Time to get a new calendar. 1994 ended, oh, about 19 years ago

A lot of water under the bridge since then. And a lot of innocents slaughtered, including babies and children.

And Gore lost for a lot of reasons that had nothing to do with the NRA.

[marions ghost]

24. Right, we are a different country now

people are waking up to the damage done by the NRA in suppressing gun control.

Al Gore.....yeah, really.............

[ellenfl]

28. al gore didn't lose because of his ideology. he lost because of scotus' ideology. eom

[joeybee12]

26. Thanks for the NRA talking point, about a false cause and effect...

They haul that out to keep their cowards in line when in reality they don't have as much power as they'd like their cretin membership to believe.

[frylock]

30. other reports state otherwise..

Bill Clinton isn't omniscient.

[tridim]

6. Obama's speech last evening was the catalyst.

Does public ridicule work for people who have no soul? I guess we'll find out.

[bobclark86]

12. For people elected by Republicans in rural areas...

No, shaming them over voting against AWBs and magazine limits will do the exact opposite of getting them un-elected.

Everyone forgets these people are not elected at the national level. Yes, Virginia, there really ARE parts of the country where the GOP outnumbers registered Democrats by 2 to 1 or even more...

[SharonAnn]

14. But there are still many of us Democrats in these areas and this encourages us to vote

against the R incumbents, even if they or their brethren seem unbeatable. I hope this encourages other Dems to come out of the woodwork.

I always vote against every R on our ticket because they're all an example of this kind of right-wing, gun-totin', anti-women, "christian" politician.

If there's a D candidate, I vote for them. If there's no opponent, I don't vote in that race at all. I want them to know that there's at least one voter here who WILL NOT vote for them!

BTW, our senators are now fighting prevent the TVA from being privatized. Go figure!

[bobclark86]

27. I live there myself...

People always forget two things about New York: It doesn't end at the GW and in many places, there's more R's upstate than D's.

The real problem isn't the NRA. It's that we're outnumbered. Even if every Democrat comes out and half of the GOP stays home, we still break even. That split won't happen, as the "they're trying to make you have and abort brown babies while taking away your guns and Bibles" works very well at motivating the GOP base, as opposed to what comes out of our party.

Which brings me to the other big problem here: the sacrificial lambs propped up by an under-funded local party with no help from the DCCC.

Unfortunately, I can count on one hand the number of really GOOD Democratic candidates put up in my district (the new 23rd) and its predecessors in the past 100 years. There's been exactly 3 elected Democratic congressmen in my area in that time. Usually, the party throws up these lambs and expects something special to happen (>Cough< Samara Barend losing by 60-40 against THREE bad conservative candidates in '04... or the various 43- to 54-point curbstompings the center-right Amo Houghton handed out on a semi-annual basis >cough&lt .

All of this adds up to a not exactly motivating midterm. In a conservative place like this, having Andrew Cuomo up for 2014 won't help our cause, either (yeah, some Dems like me really like him, but the conservatives HATE him for gay marriage, the SAFE Act, just his mere existence...).

[dballance]

9. So Maybe We Should Post/e-mail On His Site W/ Positive Feedback????

It couldn't hurt to give him some positive feedback for taking a stand that might be unpopular with many of his viewers. Of course, if the national polls are correct then he's not really risking anything because even a wide majority of the NRA members and gun owners are okay with background checks.

I wonder if Wayne LePiere will be calling on Roger Ailes to have a talk with Hannity the way Bill Donohue wanted HBO to talk to Bill Maher

[FreeBC]

11. unpopular with his viewers? He's a reverse Alan Colmes

conservatives don't watch MSNBC.

[FreeBC]

10. He's full of it. If he was there he would have voted "No" right along with them.

[Trajan]

13. Joe Scar = republican asshole

I don't care what he says

[AnotherMcIntosh]

20. x2

[EC]

15. I wonder how long that will last?

Will he be inviting Rand Paul and Ted Cruz on someday in the future and confront them or will he be all nice and adoring of them? I see him fawning all over them if they ever come on.

[russspeakeasy]

18. You can bet on it. The guy is an asshole

and will be until the day he dies; then he will be a dead asshole.

[Hekate]

17. Damn that is good news.

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More of Gabriel Giffords' "consequences"





agh: typo

[marions ghost]

25. GO JOE --& Mika

Look whatever made Joe and Mika come to Jesus on the gun issue--I don't care.

Maybe they are getting tired of the carnage like the rest of us? OK, maybe their motives aren't so pure (no I don't trust 'em) --BUT THEY ARE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THIS--when few have what it takes to cross the sacred line between the GUNZ R US crowd .........&......the GUN CONTROL TIME IS HERE crowd.

Few have the nerve to rappel into that chasm.

Today I Joe and Mika

[Cleita]

29. Joe sometimes says something that is sensible, but I don't trust him anyway.

As the old saying goes, even a broken clock is right twice a day.

[DonCoquixote]

31. do not fall for it

Scab realizes people want to believe that there are GOP who are reasonable, while we know that most of the GOP thinks that Mitt Romney lost because he was extreme enough.