Is the suspect the new "Tim" McVeigh?

[Omaha Steve]

Foreign or Domestic?

Tim was taken into custody by pure luck. He was pulled over by Oklahoma State Trooper Charles J. Hanger for a car that had no plates. The trooper noticed a bulge in his jacket. He was booked for the plate charge and illegal firearm possession. McVeigh was headed for a remote "cave" to hide out for a long time.

The new suspect or suspects have had the time to leave the country if they want to. Assuming they are still in the US, if they feel the authorities are closing in, will they have a "you won't take me alive" attitude? IF so the responders can be sure expect bombs and heavily armed resistance.

God speed to finding the perpetrators. Protect the law enforcement officers going in harms way anywhere around the globe to bring those responsible to justice.

OS

[JI7]

1. this time we have videos, pictures etc

[onehandle]

2. McVeigh was obsessed with gun rights and virtually lived at gun shows.

My money is on another responsible gun owner like McVeigh.

[bluedigger]

3. It it's a white guy the charges will be murder.

If it's a person of color it will be terrorism. That's how it works.

[Recursion]

7. Do you not know or not care that plenty of white people have been charged with terrorism?

Including several leaders of militia movements and the KKK?

Just curious.

[bluedigger]

12. I guess my jaded response irritated you.

In the absence of any evidence to back up your claim I don't feel any compelling need to change it, but I am sure that some whites may have been.

[Recursion]

13. It's been how most KKK circles are taken down since the 1990s

Sorry, I'm just finding a lot of DU cynicism rubbing me the wrong way lately.

[DreamGypsy]

4. Right or wrong, black or white, cross the line you're gonna pay ...

...in the dawn before the light, live and die by shades of gray.

Robert Earl Keen wrote his own condensed version of Crime and Punishment in a song entitled Shades of Gray. The song appears on his album Picnic, released in 1997; the song mentions "late April '95" so was clearly written sometime during that 2 year period, 95-97.

I took Russian (language) for a couple of years in college; I also took Russian literature. One of the instructors remarked that Constance Garnett got it wrong in translating Dostoevsky's title (Russian: Преступлéние и наказáние Prestupleniye i nakazaniye) as Crime and Punishment - it would more correctly be Transgression and Retribution. The difference is subtle - committing a crime is doing something definitely forbidden, transgressing is crossing a line; punishment is something meted out, retribution is paying back a deserved penance or sum. Shades of Gray probes these subtleties.

So, what the heck does this have to do with Tim McVeigh and/or the Boston Marathon bomber(s)???

McVeigh's admitted detonation a truck bomb in front of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City on April 19, 1995 killed 168 people and injured over 800 - 18 years ago, minus 1 or 2 days, depending on your timezone.

Listen to the song. Wait for the punchline.

[davidpdx]

5. I agree the authorities got lucky in terms of catching McVeigh

However the technology has gotten quite a bit better since the Oklahoma City bombings. I heard that the runners were all wearing GPS devices to track where they were on the course. They are using the information from those devices to contact people for pictures or statements. The CCTVs are pretty common these days, despite how much people dislike them, there is a high probability they will create some leads.

[MADem]

6. The GPS is so that the race authorities can tell who crossed the finish line, when.

It is another tool. The "Lord and Taylor" video camera was on the roof of the building, and provided a great view of the street and the very spot where the 2nd bomb was placed.

[hepkat]

8. It's a right wing nut like Mcveigh imo

Obv don't know, but I'm confident.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

9. Has anyone read the Turner Diaries?

That's the novel found in McVeigh's possession after the Oklahoma City bombing that described a final nazi race war to cleanse the United States of Blacks and Jews and that was supposedly what inspired him to act. The Turner Diaries supposedly describes the bombing of a federal building. I wonder if the novel also describes an event similar to the bombing at the Marathon designed to spread fear and chaos. I'm sure the authorities have made a thorough investigation of any fictional literature that might describe a similar event, though.

After posting I found a link to a story at the Huffington Post about a novel describing a bombing by a right wing group at the Boston Marathon, written several years ago. I hadn't heard about this, though I suppose others who follow the HP website have.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/17/boston-marathon-book-bombs_n_3097099.html

[eridani]

10. The date selection sez RWNJ, but the method says Islamist

Pressure cooker bombs widely described in jihadist publications, but Tax Day suggests white conservative. I'd say six of one and half a dozen of the other right now.

[Omaha Steve]

11. Patriot Day in Boston

The new shot heard around the world?