The Second Amendment is a non-starter in the 21st century

[DainBramaged]

1) You folks are half a loaf short of being a well armed militia in an era where the Internet is the next battleground.


2) The only hunting any of you do for sustenance is when you go for a sale at WalMart

3) Our founding fathers never imagined a day when you didn't have to load your musket with anything but powder and a ball. They may have been forward thinking, they never imagined war and weapons as we know them. The gun lobby has twisted the Amendment so carefully to their own designs it is now bastardized.

4)The criminals get the guns because the laws are lax, you don't keep your guns locked up, and there aren't sufficient background checks to prevent the scum from getting armed.


And it's the fault of the current generation of gun owners that we're in this mess.


Gunz gunz gunz, they are more important than your kids, or the rights of others to NOT be threatened by your need to carry them in your lily white neighborhoods. We have 40,000,000 people without health insurance and your second amendment rights are more important than life itself.


Bullshit.


Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit.

[DonCoquixote]

1. if there was quote hall of of fame

I would nominate this:

"We have 40,000,000 people without health insurance and your second amendment rights are more important than life itself. "

[AndyA]

2. +10,000!

Guns have more value than life it would seem. Pathetic.

K&R

[Blaukraut]

3. Thank you n/t

[reformist2]

4. Don't let them define what the 2nd amendment means.

Every right protected by the constitution has reasonable restrictions - even speech. Gun rights are no different, no matter what some extremists say. Plus, if we can't even get background checks passed, we're certainly not going to repeal the 2nd amendment.

[madinmaryland]

5. Grumpy cat says: "FUCK THE NRA." nt

[DainBramaged]

6. Hello my friend

it is good to see you. Been a while.


Hope you are well


DB

[michigandem58]

7. K & R

[jimlup]

8. Yep...

It's kinda of a duh! obvious thing to me. I'm not against hunting firearms but I think it could and should be very tightly regulated. You don't need an M16 assault rifle to hunt deer.

[Demo_Chris]

10. We have 40 million without insurance, 100 million in poverty...

One in five kids going without food...

And THIS is that we are fighting over?

[SoCalDem]

11. I have always thought that one reason why it's even there is this

It took a LOT of effort to outfit that ragtag army we started with, and people lived in the boonies for the most part.

A good general/president would surely have worried that the British might just send reinforcements and take us on again.

So was it a good idea to have those mustering-out soldiers turn in their guns so they could rust away (or be stolen) from a warehouse...and then to have to round these guys up again and re-arm them?

Or was it a better idea to invest in them the idea that they were still on-call..and here's the weapon that proves it.. take it home ..use it to hunt for food..and keep it ready in case we need you again..

and didn't they need them again in 1812?

So if the gunnies don't want their guns regulated, why not just enforce the militia part of the law and make them all start attending regular meetings/drilling/encampments ...and just hook them into the National Guard system as local militias.. No pay of course, since they are doing a civic duty ..The various militia commanders could "store" their weapons for them

[The Straight Story]

12. 2) The only hunting any of you do for sustenance is when you go for a sale at WalMart

Nice. Arrogant, actually.

But then most people against anyone but joe blow the cop owning guns probably never lived in the middle of nowhere where hunting saved you money and was a way of life.

People own guns. about 50 million of them. What percent use them to harm others?

[DainBramaged]

14. Not arrogant in the least

give me a percentage of how many are in the middle of nowhere.......


This is 2013 not 1613. If you're in the middle of nowhere I am positive there is a WalMart down the road, positive. And if you need more than a pistol or a shotgun, is there an invasion coming to defend against?



I hope you are well.



DB

[apocalypsehow]

13. Yep. The framers of the Constitution were thinking about one-shot muskets when they wrote it,

and considered the amendment only in the light of a COLLECTIVE right for states to organize militia's - i.e., National Guards - for their own protection against invasions the national government would not have had time to respond to in the age before electronic communications - or even telegraph wires.

If the United States were declaring it's independence and writing a Constitution today, there would be not even the accident of a misunderstood amendment like the 2nd being written.