Speculative Indulgence; one of three groups.

[arely staircase]

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We don't know who set off the bombs at the Boston Marathon but I am reasonably sure that it is a Muslim fundamentalist or a RW militia-type tea bagger or some clinically insane person with no clear discernible ideology.

The chances of it being some left wing ideologue or some nationalist or religious or political movement not known for such things is possible, but don't expect it.

Edited to add a fourth group, thanks to another poster - someone trying to murder a specific person.

[geckosfeet]

1. rw militia-type XTIAN FUNDY tea bagger covers more bases. Your bound to hit one of them....

[arely staircase]

2. i figure the tea bagger could be a fundie or not

eom

[WCGreen]

3. I know exactly who did this...

Someone that can make a bomb and that is all we really know...

Idle speculation does no one any good.

[arely staircase]

4. yes that is what we know

speculation is only natural

[olddots]

5. I agree the pattern and M.O. are nowhere near exposed now

it could be a single guy in their 50s living in Natick with his mom or a bunch of wanna be G.I. Joe types that can't figure reality from games. NOBODY KNOWS RIGHT NOW !!!!!! there are cameras everywhere they will turn something up that will lead to something of the bomber/bombers will screw up as usual and get caught.

[geckosfeet]

6. Or at least someone who knows where to get a bomb and how to set it off...

[arely staircase]

7. no that isn't enough

he/she also has to want to, not just know how.

[geckosfeet]

9. Well of course. To seek out the materials to make, or to buy a device and then set it off

in a crowded busy street with tens of thousand of innocent bystanders takes a special kind of evil.

[Honeycombe8]

29. +1. nt

[Bay Boy]

8. What should be the government response...

...to each of the possibilities?

The deranged lunatic response is easiest. What about the other two?

[arely staircase]

25. my post is about motivation

government response would go to jurisdiction, constitutionality and a host of things which would be better served by their own threads. drones, detention, constitutional rights are really too important to be relegated to my speculation about motivation.

[bushisanidiot]

10. 2 out of 4 bombs failed

Al quaeda are trained terrorists. Whoever did this did not know what they were doing, which leads me to think they were tea bagger type, gun toting, anti-american domestic terrorists.

[SpartanDem]

11. They all have spotty records.

the shoe bomber, the underwear bomber. RWingers that left a bomb in the MLK parade in Portland last year and I'm pretty sure they found a bomb outside an abortion clinic last year as well. It's clear it wasn't pro, but way too early to say whether it was a teabagger or a Muslim fundie.

[bushisanidiot]

13. The Waco seige occurred on patriots day. The oklahoma city bombing was the day after patriots day.

Sorry, but there are more signs pointing to right wing terrorists than not.

[arely staircase]

14. is this the anniversary of something?

eom

[arely staircase]

15. ah, just read the article on Patriots Day

yes that does lend credence to a rw theory. the choice of targets seems odd for militia teabagger types, though.

[bushisanidiot]

17. I think its more the significance.. Boston TEA PARTY, national coverage of a large event (marathon

Patriots day, tax day, Jackie robinsons breaking the color barrier in baseball 60 years ago also appeals to the racist aspect of the right wing terrorist.

[arely staircase]

18. the victims of rw american terrorism are usually public employees

that is one reason I want to lean toward Islamists or a just plain old crazy person. but there was a racist attempt at a marathon in Seattle, so yeah, Patriot Day plus Marathon could be significant.

this type of speculation - reasonable back and forth is why I started this thread. I don't know who did it either. I stick to my one of three groups thesis but i'm back and forth on which one it could be.

[bushisanidiot]

32. President Lincoln died on 4/15.

Another significant event tht international terrorists wouldnt care about, but do estic right wingers would.

[arely staircase]

16. oh yeah, the Portland thing

eom

[arely staircase]

12. al quaeda ,makes duds too

underwear fool and times square asshole come to mind.

[bushisanidiot]

31. Make that 3 out of 5 bombs failed.

I think THAT should be the headline when describing the terrorists.

[Old Troop]

19. Many years ago

I lived next door to an Army CID agent on a military base overseas. We used to drink beer and tell lies. We really got along well. One day I was in the field and we had a soldier killed in an explosion in a mortar pit. The agent (my friend) showed up in our tactical operations center (TOC) shortly after the incident and ordered all of us to step away from all communications devices and place our ID cards on field desks in front of us. He took each of outside individually and questioned us about what we knew. That included the battalion commander and many other who greatly outranked him.
Weeks later we were having a beer together and I asked him why he had been such a hard ass to us. He told me that criminal investigators initially treat any event involving loss of life as a possible murder regardless of the circumstances.
My point is that it is too early for anyone to speculate about right or left wing terrorists. What if this was a case of a sophisticated individual trying to murder someone he hated?

[arely staircase]

20. sophisticated individual trying to murder someone he hated?

ok, that is possible too and not covered in my three groups. yours is the best reply to my post so far. that is very possible - non-ideological, non-disturbed person trying to kill someone specifically and using terrorism as a ruse.

[Old Troop]

21. The timing seems a little

strange. If you were a terrorist, wouldn't you want your "event" to occur when the media was there in strength? Of course, it could be anything that you mentioned.

[arely staircase]

22. sure, but thanks for adding a fourth eom

[backscatter712]

27. Theoretically possible, but I doubt it.

This is the wrong way to target a specific individual.

The MO of a second bomb exploding right after the initial blast, to get the first-responders, is classic terrorist.

[arely staircase]

28. it is unlikely, correct

but I give it credit for being plausible and outside the scope of my op.

[Poll_Blind]

23. Thank you for sharing that anecdote. It's obviously very early on but...

...I think both the conjecture and experiences like yours help temper and round out a good discussion at a time like this.

PB

[backscatter712]

24. I'm betting on a right-wing extremist group.

The neo-Nazis have been getting brazen lately.

And the anti-fed militia types have been going apeshit because of the calls for firearms regulation.

And it's Tax Day. And Patriot Day. And close to 4/20, Hitler's Birthday.

[arely staircase]

26. if it is right wing i feel safe in betting it is the overtly racist fatr righ

like skinheads, christian identity, Aryan brotherhood.

[jessie04]

30. I vote RW militia-type tea bagger.

just a thought.