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Logical

(22,457 posts)
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 09:49 AM Apr 2013

OK, so proposed legislation means nothing? Because it might be a rope-a-dope or complicated chess?

I used to think politicians proposed stuff because they believed in it.

But now many DUers have explained to us, that it means nothing. That it might be some really complicated plan. A Rope-A-Dope boxing analogy or a 24 dimensional chess Star Trek analogy. Or you just propose it because you know it will never pass anyway but you do not really believe it. We basically are not smart enough to understand the logic.

This is a turn of events that I did not realize was happening.

If Obama continues to crack down on Medical marijuana, he really supports medical marijuana but wants the GOP to support medical marijuana? Wow, still confused.

So Obama really does not like the warrant-less wiretaps and drones strikes but proposes it because if he didn't the GOP would somehow propose them and make us look bad? Wow, complicated. But maybe I get it now.

If the GOP proposes banning abortion, then maybe they really do not want to ban abortions, but are trying to rope the democrats into supporting abortion to make us look bad? Maybe I understand now. Still not sure. But maybe I am being too hard on the idiotic stuff the GOP proposes. Maybe they do not really believe the stuff they propose. They just propose it because they know it will not pass anyway.

Wow, maybe we have been too hard on the GOP. They are just playing the same game we are. They propose stuff they really do not want passed.

I will admit, this new concept is hard for me to grasp. Please keep posting the strategy behind proposing something you really do not want. I need more help understanding this new political concept.

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OK, so proposed legislation means nothing? Because it might be a rope-a-dope or complicated chess? (Original Post) Logical Apr 2013 OP
sounds good. I'm on board with my support. which means I'm not. piratefish08 Apr 2013 #1
I agree with you. I think. n-t Logical Apr 2013 #2
I too am off-board with my on-board support. Katashi_itto Apr 2013 #4
but you *said* you were not demwing Apr 2013 #35
+1000 alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #3
Kinda makes your head hurt, huh? 99Forever Apr 2013 #5
I know. I really feel stupid now. Complaining and all. n-t Logical Apr 2013 #6
+1,000,000 alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #7
Oh..... Old Codger Apr 2013 #8
Milestone! This is my 100th manually trashed thread on this subject. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #9
Good for you. 99Forever Apr 2013 #10
More hysteria. And you missed the point. What a shock. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #17
I'm "suggesting" that you pretending.. 99Forever Apr 2013 #21
BTW it was not the Presidents proposal, it was part of Boehners 98%. xtraxritical Apr 2013 #23
And Obama put it in the Budget!!! neverforget Apr 2013 #32
Congrats. I have never trashed a thread. Open minded I guess. n-t Logical Apr 2013 #11
Open minded, for sure! Your OP supports that. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #14
LOL, being open minded to idiotic theories is called being gullible. You are confused? n-t Logical Apr 2013 #16
Three insults in the title and no text? Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #18
Insults? How? Idiotic Theories should be believed? n-t <--means no text Logical Apr 2013 #19
We are like mere dogs trying to understand the internet. woo me with science Apr 2013 #12
OK, that picture helped. I see now that it is too complicated for me to understand!! great pic! n-t Logical Apr 2013 #13
It is really complicated jsr Apr 2013 #15
Good one! n-t Logical Apr 2013 #34
So this is what 12 dimensional chess looks like! CrispyQ Apr 2013 #26
internets, woo, INTERNETS Skittles Apr 2013 #33
Thank you. OnionPatch Apr 2013 #20
Apparently you and I are not smart enough to understand current day politics! :-) n-t Logical Apr 2013 #22
In the words of Obama's former Chief of Staff... Chef Eric Apr 2013 #24
Wow, nice. n-t Logical Apr 2013 #28
+1 That pretty much laid out the attitude, woo me with science Apr 2013 #30
If you only believe hard enough..... Fuddnik Apr 2013 #25
Yep. It's Pie In Your Face Showbiz. A clown show with few laughs. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2013 #27
k&r Great job of exposing the idiocy. forestpath Apr 2013 #29
Many still do not get it. Amazing. n-t Logical Apr 2013 #31
Not only does it mean "nothing," LWolf Apr 2013 #36
no--it's a philosophical shift, a wholesale redefinition of human nature! MisterP Nov 2013 #37
 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
35. but you *said* you were not
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 08:05 AM
Apr 2013

Therefore, you are.

Don't bother disagreeing...it's too confusing, and no one believes anything anymore, anyway.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
3. +1000
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 10:06 AM
Apr 2013

Team Awesome can see through the smokescreen!

The best posts are meta posts, because we totally need ridicule to expose the lies!!!

Team Awesome: You know what to do: K & motherfucking R!!!!!

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
5. Kinda makes your head hurt, huh?
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 10:11 AM
Apr 2013

Us po' damn progressive dummies just don't the politeeeecal savvvvvy to understand how gubRmint wurks, let alone teh mag-niffie-scents of the 11th deeee-mention stratocaster of teh Rock Star.

Uh huh uh huh..

 

Old Codger

(4,205 posts)
8. Oh.....
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 10:29 AM
Apr 2013

Damn now don't get it, thanks. Meanwhile ignore that guy behind the curtain of money over there.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
9. Milestone! This is my 100th manually trashed thread on this subject.
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 10:42 AM
Apr 2013

This is particularly notable because I also have a filter that hides all threads with "social security" and "CPI" in the titles. God knows how many other threads on this subject were successfully hidden.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
10. Good for you.
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 10:50 AM
Apr 2013

Stick your fingers in your ears and scream 'La la la la la la la la la" while you are at it. Pretend it's okay to fuck over the most vulnerable in our Nation, that's a wonderfully compassionate view and a clear look into how Third Way Blue Dog "Demoncrats" think. Thanks.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
17. More hysteria. And you missed the point. What a shock.
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 11:10 AM
Apr 2013

Nothing has been passed. No one is dying. Obama's proposal was flatly rejected.

Are you suggesting for even one second that even the 100 threads that escaped the filter are all contributing unique ideas? That I have not read your exact, hysterical, hyperbole-ridden crap 100 times? Well, I have, and your endless repetition of the same insanity does not make it true or less insane.

The problem is not being closed minded or "fucking over vulnerable people", it is the ridiculous obsessive behavior so typical of DUers. I don't need it.

Do carry on, and give my regrets to all the people who have died of cancer after being denied treatment under Obama's new program.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
21. I'm "suggesting" that you pretending..
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 11:35 AM
Apr 2013

... that anyone gives a flying fuck about how hard you try to run from reality, is as silly and ridiculous as it gets.

neverforget

(9,436 posts)
32. And Obama put it in the Budget!!!
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 09:22 PM
Apr 2013

A Republican idea for Social Security in the budget. Unfuckingbelievable!

I guess we should be thankful that raising the retirement age to 70 wasn't offered up because Boehner wanted that too.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
18. Three insults in the title and no text?
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 11:11 AM
Apr 2013

Nicely played! You ran out of ideas and resorted to name calling.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
12. We are like mere dogs trying to understand the internet.
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 10:54 AM
Apr 2013

Last edited Sun Nov 9, 2014, 08:04 AM - Edit history (3)

The implementation of a corporate authoritarian state is clearly a necessary incremental step in the long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long. long, long journey toward a liberal, compassionate future.

They can't tell us people with limited smartness why, though. It's a secret.



OnionPatch

(6,169 posts)
20. Thank you.
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 11:30 AM
Apr 2013

I was told my thinking was "shallow" and "simplistic" for believing proposed legislation was something politicians were actually proposing.

Chef Eric

(1,024 posts)
24. In the words of Obama's former Chief of Staff...
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 12:55 PM
Apr 2013

we liberals are not capable of understanding because we're "fucking retarded."

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
36. Not only does it mean "nothing,"
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 08:36 AM
Apr 2013

I've now learned that by offering Republicans what they want, it actually "destroys" it.

Who knew?

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