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http://www.alternet.org/media/tom-friedman-most-overrated-and-disgraceful-journalist-americaWhen ranking which multi-millionaire American pundit is the most overrated, there are, without doubt, many worthy contenders, but one near the top of any list must be the New York Times Thomas L. Friedman with his long record of disastrous policy pronouncements including his enthusiasm for George W. Bushs invasion of Iraq.
Friedman, of course, has paid no career price for his misguided judgments and simplistic nostrums. Like many other star pundits who inhabit the Op-Ed pages of the Times and the Washington Post, Friedman has ascended to a place where the normal powers of gravity dont apply, where the cumulative weight of his errors only lifts him up.
Indeed, there is something profoundly nonsensical about Friedmans Olympian standing, inhabiting a plane of existence governed by the crazy rules of Washingtons conventional wisdom, where when looking down on the rest of us Friedman feels free to cast aspersions on other peoples sanity, like the Mad Hatter calling the Church Mouse nuts.
Friedman describes every foreign adversary who reacts against U.S. dictates as suffering from various stages of insanity. He accepts no possibility that these designated enemies are acting out of their own sense of self-interest and even fear of what the United States might be designing.
KharmaTrain
(31,706 posts)...his credibility was shot during the Iraq fiasco...
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)There is also not one alt media person who would not gladly trade places with Friedman and also trade paychecks.
After all, it is the game and angle of it all.
They all get paid to write.
Some get paid more.
They all aspire to the throne. (Witness Chuck Todd and Nate Silver and bob Woodward).
"some play to win, some play to lose"
(Danny O'keefe, good time charlie's got the blues)
they all play.
some may have a hobby, but no one works for free.
Kolesar
(31,182 posts)Unlike the flapping-jaw TV pundits, he has to write in complete sentences that invite critical review but also launch him into a position of great authority. His columns appear in Cleveland's Largest Newspaper and all over the country.
I read the Fried' and I am quickly bored, but I have this incredibly worldly view from following up the headlines at DU every day.
It's a good use of an "extended" lunch hour at work. Ha ha.
KG
(28,751 posts)know what the serious people are, um, 'thinking'.
Paul E Ester
(952 posts)The guy that occasionally gets something right, and then proclaim him a brilliant man. Even a broken clock is right twice a day, enough said about him, who!
UnrepentantLiberal
(11,700 posts)Flathead
By Matt Taibbi
New York Press
April 26, 2005
I think it was about five months ago that Press editor Alex Zaitchik whispered to me in the office hallway that Thomas Friedman had a new book coming out. All he knew about it was the title, but that was enough; he approached me with the chilled demeanor of a British spy who has just discovered that Hitler was secretly buying up the worlds manganese supply. Who knew what it meant but one had to assume the worst.
Its going to be called The Flattening, he whispered. Then he stood there, eyebrows raised, staring at me, waiting to see the effect of the news when it landed. I said nothing.
It turned out Alex had bad information; the book that ultimately came out would be called The World Is Flat. It didnt matter. Either version suggested the same horrifying possibility. Thomas Friedman in possession of 500 pages of ruminations on the metaphorical theme of flatness would be a very dangerous thing indeed. It would be like letting a chimpanzee loose in the NORAD control room; even the best-case scenario is an image that could keep you awake well into your 50s.
So I tried not to think about it. But when I heard the book was actually coming out, I started to worry. Among other things, I knew I would be asked to write the review. The usual ratio of Friedman criticism is 2:1, i.e., two human words to make sense of each single word of Friedmanese. Friedman is such a genius of literary incompetence that even his most innocent passages invite feature-length essays. Ill give you an example, drawn at random from The World Is Flat. On page 174, Friedman is describing a flight he took on Southwest Airlines from Baltimore to Hartford, Connecticut. (Friedman never forgets to name the company or the brand name; if he had written The Metamorphosis, Gregor Samsa would have awoken from uneasy dreams in a Sealy Posturepedic.) Heres what he says:
I stomped off, went through security, bought a Cinnabon, and glumly sat at the back of the B line, waiting to be herded on board so that I could hunt for space in the overhead bins.
Forget the Cinnabon. Name me a herd animal that hunts. Name me one.
More: http://nypress.com/flathead/
DCBob
(24,689 posts)Information technology has changed the planet.
... I sure wish I could get paid for that Captain Obvious observation.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)Kolesar
(31,182 posts)But that one was howling funny
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)... that was the worst book review I've read. Period. Over 2,000 words dedicated to stomping on Friedman's awful metaphors.
Damn. Just damn.
ChairmanAgnostic
(28,017 posts)It is a herd animal, in that it quickly joins up (and finds its place) with any other feral dogs. And it will hunt.
Lions tend to exist in extended families, or herds, and last I heard, they may dine on meat on occasions.
While some sharks are notable for being loners, others only live in schools. they cooperate when feeding, driving their prey into their midst.
Humans are naturally social. Live in herds. Act like animals at most sport venues. And they hunt.
watoos
(7,142 posts)a lot of people got on that bus. Iraq isn't exactly supposed to be Friedman's area of expertise. I don't believe in trashing the person, just trashing what the person does and says. There is little of that info in this thread.
cpwm17
(3,829 posts)He pulls his uneducated opinion out of his ass.
Smarmie Doofus
(14,498 posts)rurallib
(62,415 posts)and that is saying something.
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)ChairmanAgnostic
(28,017 posts)in the stupid derby.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)No matter how many times he has been wrong (and there have been many), he still gets his garbage printed and is held in high esteem.
-Laelth
Smarmie Doofus
(14,498 posts)He's good to read just to find out what tptb are thinking and what they are *probably* up to.
K and R
truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)BEZERKO
(592 posts)He Does SUCK!
although I'm mildly uncomfortable with the designation of, "journalist."
HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)This article just goes into his war cheerleading. He's also a free-traitor mark who loves offshore outsourcing and very superficially glosses over the supposed great it's doing for other countries, all the while ignoring the zero-sum hurt it's putting on worker progress in America.
In previous columns and in his numerous books about the wonders of globalization, free trade (and, implicitly, offshore outsourcing of American jobs,) Friedman celebrates the movement of industrial and high technology work out of the United States to nations such as India and China. He considers this situation a "win-win" for Americans but he can't point to "21st-century jobs" created in the U.S. for Americans as a consequence of offshore outsourcing. (Sorry Tom, the growing number of low-skilled and low-paying nontradeable services jobs in the U.S. economy are not the "21st-century" jobs you imagine.)
He fails to either acknowledge or comprehend the fact that the very outsourcing and "free trade" policies he has breathlessly praised are at the core of why Americans cannot compete for the "21st century jobs". The "flattening" of which Friedman speaks is the result of political action -- laws which have enabled American corporations to simultaneously move work offshore while continuing to sell goods and services produced by foreign workers in the U.S. market without restriction. Businesses are able to offshore jobs and pay Third World wages while continuing to sell the goods and services at "American prices".
What are OUR new 21st century careers? Hate to break it to you, Tommy, but these careers are going to require training. YEARS of training, not months. I need to know NOW what they are and make sure they're stayin' put for a while . . . at least until corporate America ships THAT overseas as well. Until you have something better than the mediocre-paying service industry (like Davy Dreier stupidly espoused in that report of his during the Bewsh years), you're pretty much buyin' into a gamble.
The thing about it is, I don't need to hear "solutions" from a guy who's pretty much never really had to work hard to get where he is in life, never really had to struggle, has networking skills and fell into all the right jobs (and eventually, married the right person). I don't think a person such as that should deem himself such an authority as to what American workers have to do to better themselves. I might as well listen to an Ovarian Lottery winner like Steve Forbes on the subject; it'd make about as much sense.
Friedman always tends to ignore the giant-elephant factors of wage stagnation, astronomical college costs, unrealistic expectations of Corporate America, unrealistic odds of "Horatio Alger" type success and just plain-and-simple bad luck.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Outstanding outsourcing info...
... With humor! Always, with humor!
HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)Aside from that pie that was thrown at him at GreenWatch . . .
Do you ever notice that he pretty much appears on news shows . . . by himself?
Curious, when has this guy ever been before a non-loaded audience?
Ever notice he very rarely, if ever, participates in a Q/A session that doesn't consist of mostly moderate lily-livered softballs?
Ever notice this guy pretty much gets an open, uncontested forum for his neo-lib, Free Traitor spewing and commentators don't even slightly question or press him on the legitimacy of his cockamamie laissez-fail theories or his weird and hamfisted metaphors?
Google or YouTube "Thomas Friedman vs.". Yeah, you'll find a lot of videos, but not even a thumb's worth of "Vs".
Is it because he might have to be forced to defend the indefensible and come out in support of a very detrimental practice and wholesale con job on the American worker?
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)JHB
(37,160 posts)...from New Zealand in 2011, when he was plugging his book That Used to Be Us.
You can tell how much he's used to softball interviews, and isn't used to someone pressing him on details.
Top one at the link:
http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/saturday/20111022
HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)"An example of a well-regulated economy is North Korea". REALLY????
I encourage everyone to listen to this interview if you need some exasperation in your life . . . and to see how to completely dissect a painfully mediocre SHILL who's got NOTHING.
My GOD, Sugar Ray Leonard in his PRIME didn't bob and weave as well or as much as this guy does. It's as if he really doesn't want to admit that his corporate masters operate on a cocaine mountain of sheer greed. It's as if he really does not GET that American workers THANKS in part to free traitor policy are not going back to a living wage, have lost all of their progress, have LOST their job security, have LOST their benefits . . . and it has nothing AT ALL TO DO with SKILLS. These corporations want a worker that has a masters degree, ten years experience, know eight types of software right away and expect them to work for $12/hr, IF that.
He really DOES NOT GET that the reason Americans have a shite savings rate is because we have NO DISPOSABLE INCOME because our wages have been STAGNANT in real dollars for 33 YEARS.
He really DOES NOT GET that corporations are not interested in BALANCE. Or maybe he does and is just pushing a toxic narrative with a happy face.
It's never been easier to start a company? REALLY? Where does the money come from??
He really doesn't get that if everyone was a JK Rowling, a Stephen Hawking, a Tim Berners-Lee, a Barack Obama, then NO one would be.
It is a fucking ZERO SUM GAME, TOM . . . and no amount of corporate shilling that you or Marc Andreesen or anyone else out there chooses to bubble yourself up with is going to change that FACT.
JHB
(37,160 posts)1) Jumping to extreme alternatives: North Korea, Communism, giving up all modern gadgetry. As if there are no alternatives, as if you can't incentivize economic behavior in any way other than is done right now, even though we've done so in the past. "Where's this Golden Era?" Nobody said anything about a "golden era", but there were some things that were handled differently in the past and maybe we should take a second look at them, especially given #2:
2) the bland rewriting of history: "first we tried one thing, it went to far, now we're trying something else..." as if the deregulation, extreme tax cutting, and privatization that started under Carter but got rocket boosters under Reagan had been rationally debated, and was not the result of political power plays. I recall Reagan making speeches about how lowering taxes at the high end would let that money be used for investment to modernize our aging industrial plant to restore our competitiveness in markets at home and abroad. Instead, that money went into the stock market and fueled Merger-mania, leveraged buy-outs that let company assets be stripped and sucked upward, and union-busting. More bait-and-switch than the swinging of a pendulum, especially considering that the pendulum never swung back.
3) Did you notice how he went completely ballistic when she noted he was a rich guy? As if that was just prying into his personal business, and had no bearing on the perspective from which he evaluates these issues? That it might affect his view of budgetary priorities? Easy enough for him to talk about raising the retirement age when to him it is of no more significance than adjusting the bass on a stereo, but for tens of millions of people there might be a higher incentive to look at other alternatives.
4) The way he kept wondering aloud what her agenda was, what she "was getting at", largely because her reaction to his pearls of wisdom was not simple ooh-ing and ahhh-ing.
And a plug for blogger Driftglass, also of The Professional Left Podcast, who originally made me aware of the interview.
HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)Tommy kind of exposes himself here. Economic absolutism is as classic a right-wing fallback as "Who ever told you life was fair?"
"It's either THIS or THAT, no happy medium." Yes, let's completely ignore much of Europe. Let's completely ignore Scandanavia. Let's completely ignore Iceland and how they're bouncing back from the free marketz mistakes they made. Let's completely ignore Canada. Hell, I'll go so far to say let's completely ignore Argentina and Chile, who've slowly but surely reformed for the better after ending their neo-lib experiments and put money in the hands of the people who spend it. Let's completely ignore all of these countries that thrive by NOT using the predatory system that escaped from Pandora's box, but rather are ideal examples of balanced and mixed markets, something his winner-burn-everything corporate masters aren't even remotely interested in. Competition has killed development.
And it also sickens me that he insists the problem is education, as if we're just not smart enough and too average. He has no idea whatsoever that a great deal of people in America today have some form of post-HS education. If there aren't enough decent, high-paying, skills-applicable jobs to go around, all this is going to mean is that you're going to have the most college educated shelf-stockers and cashiers a country can handle. The problem is NOT education, the problem is an epidemic of underemployment and wage stagnation that's not meeting a never-decreasing cost of living. The problem is offshore outsourcing and insourcing, which doesn't result in higher paying jobs here, as data truly indicates. The problem is the breaking of the social contract between corporations and workers for the quest of short-term profit over long-term stability and cycle. If the problem is education, then why are people with bachelors and masters degrees getting laid off of their jobs?
The whole interview made him sound like an unfortunate soul who just rolled around in fiberglass insulation. Obviously uncomfortable and way out of his element, his continued back-walking of his free-traitor screeds and "Don't shoot the messenger!" pleas only add to the hilarity of it all. I think about ten minutes in, he REALLY wishes he was back on American safe havens like CNN or CNBC.
I also like how he repeatedly insists he's never heard of the term "neoliberalism".
valerief
(53,235 posts)R Merm
(405 posts)Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)but, as the OP correctly notes, the competition is fierce.
I do on occasion find something useful and/or informative in a Friedman column. Kristol, by contrast, has a perfect record.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,692 posts)Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)I've seen him speak. He's really not bad, and he's a decent advocate for a lot of environmental issues.
harmonicon
(12,008 posts)Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)BainsBane
(53,032 posts)Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)Not that he'll actually read it, but it was cathartic.
avaistheone1
(14,626 posts)He gets everything wrong, and is boring as well.
MattBaggins
(7,904 posts)FarCenter
(19,429 posts)By Thomas L. Friedman and Michael Mandelbaum
I bought it to read on a plane flight. The first 50 pages lasted from Florida to New York.
The next 100 pages lasted the next 3 months.
I may never finish it.
madinmaryland
(64,933 posts)HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)A flat earth would be far less interconnected than a spherical one.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)...unless you're counting the welfare checks he receives for croaking out bad lullabies.