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dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 03:02 PM Apr 2013

Hawking: people will become extinct on Earth within the millennium.

Renowned British physicist Stephen Hawking warns human beings won’t survive “without escaping” from the “fragile” planet. His gloomy forecast is people will become extinct on Earth within current the millennium.

Speaking at the Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles the 71-year-old scientist called for further exploration of space to guarantee the future of mankind, the Belfast Telegraph reports.

"We must continue to go into space for humanity. If you understand how the universe operates, you control it in a way," Professor Hawking said, adding that "we won't survive another 1,000 years without escaping our fragile planet."


http://rt.com/news/earth-hawking-mankind-escape-702/

What do you think? Is his timeline is too long?
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Hawking: people will become extinct on Earth within the millennium. (Original Post) dixiegrrrrl Apr 2013 OP
I think Humans will not survive the century. Vincardog Apr 2013 #1
Improbable Shivering Jemmy Apr 2013 #28
Not if we turn the oceans acid and kill off the foundation of life. I hope you are right but Vincardog Apr 2013 #32
Hell, I doubt we'll survive the night. Warren DeMontague Sep 2014 #38
Hawking is a very smart man but Drale Apr 2013 #2
Species, from the geological record, have an average of 100,000 years nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #10
It's certainly possible. Intelligent life has already disappeared from DC. n/t winter is coming Apr 2013 #3
Civilization and species are two different things Prism Apr 2013 #4
That's pretty much a given, really. AverageJoe90 Apr 2013 #35
If we could pull off a mass exodus to another planet, or whatever he is suggesting, Quantess Apr 2013 #5
It could be a bit long. Hard to say as there are so many GreenPartyVoter Apr 2013 #6
Giving smart people credibility outside their expertise is usually a mistake HereSince1628 Apr 2013 #7
That honestly makes me feel a lot better. EOTE Apr 2013 #8
I won't survive the next century and I'm positive of that. CokeMachine Apr 2013 #9
Ah, come on, give it a try Kelvin Mace Apr 2013 #17
Thanks, CokeMachine Apr 2013 #24
If you pull it off, you have a badass soundtrack Scootaloo Apr 2013 #31
My bet is more than 100, less than 200. montanto Apr 2013 #11
I think he's confusing his own imminent death Warpy Apr 2013 #12
Will the extinction be televised? Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2013 #13
It's always about the want to control The2ndWheel Apr 2013 #14
Most people can't think beyond a few years into the future. progressoid Apr 2013 #15
This is why we need guns. Yavin4 Apr 2013 #16
LOL... OneGrassRoot Apr 2013 #19
Chortle. nt Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2013 #21
In Britain the Bees are going extinct lovuian Apr 2013 #18
I have a great idea! marybourg Apr 2013 #27
Well, that would be depressing. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2013 #20
I don't put much stock Go Vols Apr 2013 #22
George Carlin saw this many years ago: Initech Apr 2013 #23
I have always loved Carlin, thanks for posting this.... truegrit44 Apr 2013 #25
Earth First! We'll destroy the other planets later. Zorra Apr 2013 #26
That has bothered me for years and years. dixiegrrrrl Apr 2013 #29
He's losing it at 71. Going into space, how nuts can a scientist be? Coyotl Apr 2013 #30
Humans have never been in balance with nature Shivering Jemmy Apr 2013 #36
He's finally lost it Cali_Democrat Apr 2013 #33
Hawking may be a genius, but even geniuses get it wrong sometimes. AverageJoe90 Apr 2013 #34
I think a lot sooner lebeckford Sep 2014 #37
"Beware the beast Man, for he is the Devil's pawn." Warren DeMontague Sep 2014 #39
I cannot think of a more accurate quote. dixiegrrrrl Sep 2014 #42
I think in 1000 years there is a good chance that every human currently alive, will be dead. Warren DeMontague Sep 2014 #40
Actually, he said we need to move on from being a single planet species. And he's right. Warren DeMontague Sep 2014 #41

Shivering Jemmy

(900 posts)
28. Improbable
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 04:15 PM
Apr 2013

Humans are very adaptable to rapid change. We're bad at long term change. But I have no doubt some portion of humanity will find a way to survive the next 87 years. There's too damn many of us to go extinct that rapidly.

Vincardog

(20,234 posts)
32. Not if we turn the oceans acid and kill off the foundation of life. I hope you are right but
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 04:43 PM
Apr 2013

fear I am.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
38. Hell, I doubt we'll survive the night.
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 03:53 AM
Sep 2014

The phone keeps ringing and THE CALLS ARE COMING FROM INSIDE THE HOUSE!

Drale

(7,932 posts)
2. Hawking is a very smart man but
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 03:06 PM
Apr 2013

I think the human race is very resilient and we will survive pretty much anything. Now that's not to say that there will not be a huge die off but humanity will survive

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
10. Species, from the geological record, have an average of 100,000 years
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 03:13 PM
Apr 2013

and most of life on Earth, like 99%, has already gone extinct. I am talking of the whole 4.5 Billion years of history, not just the modern geological era.

Another fun fact. we are in the middle of the Great Holocene Extinction, top species (we are) tend not to survive those.

Oh and race is a term I have a problem with.

Now humans might EVOLVE into something else, like all life on Earth has done, but quite frankly changes are moving way too fast with the environment.

 

Prism

(5,815 posts)
4. Civilization and species are two different things
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 03:09 PM
Apr 2013

Our civilization might come in for rough times, both natural and man made, but the species is bright enough to subsist even if we face a civilizational collapse.

Extinction is a strong word barring some cataclysmic natural event.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
35. That's pretty much a given, really.
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 04:52 PM
Apr 2013

I do occasionally worry about Yellowstone going off or an Apophis-type asteroid hitting us; that, along with any full-scale nuclear war scenarios that might have happened during the Cold War, very well could cause a total collapse of global civilization as we know it.....but none of these are likely, and global warming isn't going to be enough to cause such by itself(despite the cries of our resident wannabe Cassandras), no matter which plausible scenario plays out.

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
5. If we could pull off a mass exodus to another planet, or whatever he is suggesting,
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 03:10 PM
Apr 2013

then we could figure out how to live sustainably on earth.

I personally doubt either great solution will happen. I think we'll run the earth ragged and die off, leaving cockroaches and ants to inherit the earth.

GreenPartyVoter

(72,377 posts)
6. It could be a bit long. Hard to say as there are so many
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 03:10 PM
Apr 2013

variables. Will we finally have that overdue monster pandemic? Will unseen feedback loops escalate the melting of the glaciers and ice at the poles? Will weather patterns become so extreme that lack of rainfall makes feeding our population impossible? Will some nutcase open the nuclear genie's lamp again?



I do agree that he is right. If we don't send at least some of us off-planet then the race in general will go extinct. Most species do at one time or another.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
7. Giving smart people credibility outside their expertise is usually a mistake
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 03:12 PM
Apr 2013

And btw I'm fine with the Chinese or Indians using their new found trillions on space colonization.

EOTE

(13,409 posts)
8. That honestly makes me feel a lot better.
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 03:12 PM
Apr 2013

I was under the impression we might not make it through the next century. I think if we can make it through the next 100 years, we'll be able to make it off the planet.

On another note, Stephen Hawking is 71? That's awesome. I remember hearing that he never thought he'd make it through his 30s.

Warpy

(111,254 posts)
12. I think he's confusing his own imminent death
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 03:13 PM
Apr 2013

with the death of the human species. While we will eventually become extinct, I don't see it happening quite that quickly barring the type of planetary disaster that extinguishes all life.

Even if global warming becomes the runaway phenomenon some alarmists think it will, humanity will still likely cling to Arctic islands and Antarctica.

Now if he'd said we'd be extinct in a million years, the odds of that go up.

progressoid

(49,988 posts)
15. Most people can't think beyond a few years into the future.
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 03:16 PM
Apr 2013

Nobody wants to make sacrifices for future generations.

Yeah, if we continue like this, it's over for us.

marybourg

(12,627 posts)
27. I have a great idea!
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 04:10 PM
Apr 2013

They can import some of those fantasticly assertive honey-making bees from Africa! What could go wrong?

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,181 posts)
20. Well, that would be depressing.
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 03:18 PM
Apr 2013

Homo Sapiens exist for less than a million years, and we've only been civilized for 10,000.

In other words, a quick blip on this planet's multi billion year history.

But hey, it was a fun ride.

truegrit44

(332 posts)
25. I have always loved Carlin, thanks for posting this....
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 03:53 PM
Apr 2013

This man has more rational sense then every politician combined in this country.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
26. Earth First! We'll destroy the other planets later.
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 03:55 PM
Apr 2013

The heck with space. If people can't learn to take care of their shit on this planet, extinction is the honorable option.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
29. That has bothered me for years and years.
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 04:17 PM
Apr 2013

Back in the 70's, reading Rachel Carson and Paul Tillich and Paul Erlich ( The Population Bomb), seeing what was already happening to the planet....
I was very aware there was this idea out there that "mankind"' could use the space program to find other habitable planets so we could spread to other places in the universe once we had trashed this blue globe sufficiently.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
30. He's losing it at 71. Going into space, how nuts can a scientist be?
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 04:19 PM
Apr 2013

There is no way humans can survive in space. Firing rockets into space is a threat to the atmosphere already, as are jet travel and automobile emissions. If humans want to survive, they must diminish population and get back into harmony with the natural system.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
34. Hawking may be a genius, but even geniuses get it wrong sometimes.
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 04:47 PM
Apr 2013

And this is definitely one of those times; sorry, doomsters, but barring a K/T event or gamma ray burst, or any other type of catastrophe that is truly cosmic in scale, we ain't going extinct anytime soon, and that's geologically speaking, mind you.

lebeckford

(1 post)
37. I think a lot sooner
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 06:49 PM
Sep 2014

Man has the inherent ability to make the same historical mistakes over and over again.
He is greedy, jealous, wasteful, and his own worst enemy, I we don't kill each other in a war, we will destroy the environment if a natural does not get rid of us first.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
39. "Beware the beast Man, for he is the Devil's pawn."
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 03:58 AM
Sep 2014

"Alone among God's primates, he kills for sport or lust or greed. Yea, he will murder his brother to possess his brother's land. Let him not breed in great numbers, for he will make a desert of his home and yours. Shun him; drive him back into his jungle lair, for he is the harbinger of death."

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
42. I cannot think of a more accurate quote.
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 11:17 AM
Sep 2014

Let him not breed in great numbers, for he will make a desert of his home and yours.

Back in teh 70's, when The Population Bomb made such a furor, geometric progression of pop. numbers alone was an alarming fact.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
40. I think in 1000 years there is a good chance that every human currently alive, will be dead.
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 04:02 AM
Sep 2014

I know, it's upsetting to consider, but it's quite possible.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
41. Actually, he said we need to move on from being a single planet species. And he's right.
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 04:04 AM
Sep 2014

It's the smart thing to do, for long-term survival.

And we will.

But that's a long-ass way from "Stephen Hawking says wur doooomed!!!!"

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