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mother earth

(6,002 posts)
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 10:38 AM Apr 2013

Wikileaks Was Just a Preview: We're Headed for an Even Bigger Showdown Over Secrets - Matt Taibbi

I went yesterday to a screening of We Steal Secrets, Oscar-winning director Alex Gibney's brilliant new documentary about Wikileaks. The movie is beautiful and profound, an incredible story that's about many things all at once, including the incredible Shakespearean narrative that is the life of Julian Assange, a free-information radical who has become an uncompromising guarder of secrets.

I'll do a full review in a few months, when We Steal Secrets comes out, but I bring it up now because the whole issue of secrets and how we keep them is increasingly in the news, to the point where I think we're headed for a major confrontation between the government and the public over the issue, one bigger in scale than even the Wikileaks episode.

We've seen the battle lines forming for years now. It's increasingly clear that governments, major corporations, banks, universities and other such bodies view the defense of their secrets as a desperate matter of institutional survival, so much so that the state has gone to extraordinary lengths to punish and/or threaten to punish anyone who so much as tiptoes across the informational line.

This is true not only in the case of Wikileaks – and especially the real subject of Gibney's film, Private Bradley Manning, who in an incredible act of institutional vengeance is being charged with aiding the enemy (among other crimes) and could, theoretically, receive a death sentence.



Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/wikileaks-was-just-a-preview-were-headed-for-an-even-bigger-showdown-over-secrets-20130322#ixzz2QAJxYYvz
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Wikileaks Was Just a Preview: We're Headed for an Even Bigger Showdown Over Secrets - Matt Taibbi (Original Post) mother earth Apr 2013 OP
K&R!!!! haikugal Apr 2013 #1
Very definitely worth the read, please see We Steal Secrets on the Vid/MM forum. TY mother earth Apr 2013 #3
Sound of bus warming up... IDemo Apr 2013 #2
K&R DeSwiss Apr 2013 #4
"We can find a less totally evil way of living" - Matt Taibbi limpyhobbler Apr 2013 #5
Please be sure to watch the WikiLeaks video, 2 Reuters journo fatalities in Iraq mother earth Apr 2013 #6
Matt Taibbi deserves an award for his reporting. TY, Matt! mother earth Apr 2013 #7
DU Rec for Matt. blackspade Apr 2013 #8

haikugal

(6,476 posts)
1. K&R!!!!
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 10:52 AM
Apr 2013

Worth the read thanks...I look forward to this film.

A common thread runs through all of these cases. On the one hand, the motivations for these information-stealers seem extremely diverse: You have people who appear to be primarily motivated by traditional whistleblower concerns (Manning, who never sought money and was obviously initially moved by the moral horror aroused by the material he was seeing, falls into that category for me), you have the merely mischievous (the Keys case seems to fall in this area), there are those who either claim to be or actually are free-information ideologues (Assange and Swartz seem more in this realm), and then there are other cases where the motive might have been money (Aleynikov, who was allegedly leaving Goldman to join a rival trading startup, might be among those).

But in all of these cases, the government pursued maximum punishments and generally took zero-tolerance approaches to plea negotiations. These prosecutions reflected an obvious institutional terror of letting the public see the sausage-factory locked behind the closed doors not only of the state, but of banks and universities and other such institutional pillars of society. As Gibney pointed out in his movie, this is a Wizard of Oz moment, where we are being warned not to look behind the curtain.

What will we find out? We already know that our armies mass-murder women and children in places like Iraq and Afghanistan, that our soldiers joke about smoldering bodies from the safety of gunships, that some of our closest diplomatic allies starve and repress their own citizens, and we may even have gotten a glimpse or two of a banking system that uses computerized insider trading programs to steal from everyone who has an IRA or a mutual fund or any stock at all by manipulating markets like the NYSE.

These fervent, desperate prosecutions suggest that there's more awfulness under there, things that are worse, and there is a determination to not let us see what those things are. Most recently, we've seen that determination in the furor over Barack Obama's drone assassination program and the so-called "kill list" that is associated with it.




Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/wikileaks-was-just-a-preview-were-headed-for-an-even-bigger-showdown-over-secrets-20130322#ixzz2QANuf1cW

limpyhobbler

(8,244 posts)
5. "We can find a less totally evil way of living" - Matt Taibbi
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 12:20 PM
Apr 2013

A quote from near the end of this article.

This article was a good read.

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