Will Chris Hayes or Rachel mention the SS proposal tonight? Give your predictions!

[senseandsensibility]

Chris Hayes's show starts in forty five minutes.

As background, neither journalist covered this important breaking story on Friday. Neither even mentioned it.

Will it be ignored again by our liberal journalists on MSNBC?

[Life Long Dem]

1. Just You

[upaloopa]

2. I think they may cover it tomorrow

[still_one]

3. No, it will be brought up by Rachel

[KoKo]

4. It's more important "HOW" they bring it up..

Will it be SPINNING...or Both Sides of the DEM Views.

It should be a MUST WATCH!

I don't watch that stuff anymore...but love to read the links and comments that other DU'ers who DO WATCH post.

I have my ROKU and stick with the International News.

But...I look forward "hopefully" that they report accurately.

[femmocrat]

5. Maybe, but following the president's speech today, gun control will be the top story.

JMO

[KoKo]

7. Well that's important, too. And it's Wednesday that Obama

"Officially" presents his "Chained CPI Proposal about SS to the Congress...so I guess Wednesday Night will be when they talk about it. MSM is always a lag behind the Internet News, anyway.

So...Tonight it's Gun Control. That's a very worthwhile Topic, and I certainly am in favor of that...so no problem if they wait a few days.

[tularetom]

6. If they do, it will be counterbalanced by some shill claiming it's 12 dimensional chess

[WillyT]

8. Prediction: YES/BOTH...

[senseandsensibility]

9. You're an optimist!

But will anyone criticize it? I just watched Current and their coverage was of the "he's just doing the best he can," variety. Depressing.

[senseandsensibility]

10. Starting now.

eom

[olddots]

11. I predict no

I hope I'm wrong .

[senseandsensibility]

14. So far I've heard nothing from Chris.

But I hope you're right!

[WhaTHellsgoingonhere]

12. Ed's been hammering Obama on this since last week

I should think Rachel will.

[senseandsensibility]

13. Too bad he's not on TV

anymore. But so far Chris has said nothing, and Rachel said nothing on Friday.

[WhaTHellsgoingonhere]

22. Bubbly Rachel took a pass, too.

[Nite Owl]

15. Nothing on Chris Hayes

Yet. It's 8:37

[senseandsensibility]

16. Doesn't it seem like he would have mentioned it by now?

You know a "tease" as they used to call it about what's coming up in the show?

[tokenlib]

17. The ignoring is getting too obvious..

We are a hell of a lot more than "a few democrats" who oppose the President on this.

[KoKo]

19. It's also probable that they are waiting until Wednesday when

Obama formally submits his budget to Congress. It could be they are gathering data and will do a Full Coverage that night?

It's early to them in the news cycle and he has not formally submitted it yet.

If they don't do it Wednesday Night...I'd get pretty worried, though.

[babylonsister]

20. Maybe they're just waiting until something actually happens before

they scream at the top of their lungs the sky is falling?

[Cha]

27. Ya think?

[PennsylvaniaMatt]

39. Cha, my friend!

I feel like we have been in the minority lately on DU because we aren't calling for Obama's impeachment!

Peace!

[Cha]

43. Being in the minority on DU when the Mob Mentality is

raging and frothing for blood and "IMPEACHMENT!!!!1111" is an Honor, Matt!

The Latest RAGER.. or one of them..

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2644685

Brawaawaaa.. it was hidden by the JURY! ROFL

Peace, bro..

[sabrina 1]

28. Maybe they shouldn't wait until it's too late to stop it? What a concept, trying to stop a disaster

like this from happening. This is why we got no PO, 'let's wait until he actually signs a bill without it'. Yes, I remember it well.

Doesn't matter anyhow, they don't care what the people think. This we have learned over the past few years. There is no one fighting for the people. Wall St won, for now. And it's better to acknowledge where we are.

Now we have to move forward, start the fight to remove from our government all Wall St puppets. The primaries are now the front line to begin the process.

Whatever damage he does on Wednesday can't be stopped, but it can be reversed when we get some Progressive Democrats into the seats of the Third Wayers, the DLCers and the pretend Dems in Congress. I don't think I've ever seen people more motivated. We had to see all this before we faced a reality we never suspected during the Bush years. I remember being angry at those who tried to tell us when we were so hopeful and thrilled when this President was elected. They were right, we were wrong. But now huge numbers of people know what they already knew, and that is how change begins, with knowledge.

[babylonsister]

30. You presume damage will be done without knowing

what may or may not happen; that's the difference between us. Good think you don't have to use ink while watching the sky fall.

[sabrina 1]

33. Damage has already been done. A Democrat has opened the door to the Government using the SS

fund to pay its debts. The lie that Republicans have been telling, that SS had anything to do with the deficit, has been confirmed now by a Democrat.

To play into that outrageous lie that Republicans have been pushing, is beyond harmful. The only way to undo that part of the damage is for the President to retract that offer and state clearly that cutting SS would do nothing to help with the deficit since it did not cause it and he is sorry to have frightened so many people who depend on it because they earned it.

And that's not even dealing with the harm that will be caused when Republicans grab it as an issue for 2014, lie once again, accuse Democrats of being willing to cut SS and position themselves, as Bachman has already done, as the party of the people who are protecting it from evil Democrats.

Unless it has already been removed. Which as far as I know, it has not, and/or the Democratic leadership has publicly opposed this offer, damage has already been done.

[stevenleser]

18. I mentioned it on my show ;-)

Fast forward to the 50 minute and 45 second part: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/lesersense/2013/04/07/making-sense-with-steve-leser--n-korea-amina-femen-more

[JDPriestly]

29. Thank you.

[Demo_Chris]

36. Well done!

[alcibiades_mystery]

21. I think KoKo's right: they will responsibly wait to see the actual proposal before

attempting to dissect it.

It's hard to dissect air, as it were. Or all too easy.

[bobduca]

40. can't wait till its ok to react.

I await a pragmatic plan from those sensible folks, outlining when I should and shouldnt react to announced policy plans.

[alcibiades_mystery]

42. Oh, it's always OK to react...we react away, all the time even - reacting is fun

Most journalists (or at least the ones you'd care to watch) will wait to see the actual proposal before featuring or discussing (note: not reacting to) the, um, proposal.

That said, I think either could have done a nice story on the reaction to the "proposal," as they have plenty of actual data on that.

[Nite Owl]

23. I missed Rachel

Lawrence O'Donnell is on and it was mentioned in the promo.
I hope I can stay awake long enough to hear it.

[senseandsensibility]

24. She didn't cover it, and I stopped watching in disgust after that.

Let me know what Lawrence says about it if you have a chance.

[Nite Owl]

31. From what I saw

(I kept dozing off) he didn't discuss it at all. He did talk about the sequestration.

[Samantha]

25. I have had MSNBC on most of the day to see if it would be covered

I did run out for an hour but for the most part have stayed somewhat tuned in. I heard a couple of vague references to President Obama's "budget" but nothing about Social Security, Chained CPI, nothing. I wanted to watch this evening to see if Rachel or Hayes covered it, but I was prevented from doing so. I had a feeling it would not be.

So I started thinking who would be the most likely to really go after the Oval Office for a budget presenting the Social Security Chained CPI and other changes to earned benefits. The most vehement would have been Keith Olbermann and Ed would have been right behind him. Well Olbermann is not on the air and Ed has been moved to Saturdays, in other words, no longer in prime time.

How convenient.

Sam

[slipslidingaway]

26. "...liberal journalists on MSNBC"

when Olbermann had John and Elizabeth Edwards on twice during the week of 5 year invasion of Iraq during the Presidential election and did not have the only Presidential candidate who cast a no vote for the invasion I've paid less attention to the "liberal media."
But I did switch the channel last week to hear Matthews tell us how courageous a move it was for Obama to put SS on the table.


IMHO there is no a reason to watch the "liberal media" unless one wants to just cheer for their team, same as watching Fox for the other team.

That being said I'm glad to have some light shined on the media, whatever the team may be.

[dembotoz]

32. we keep getting told that msnbc is some sort of a lefty outlet and i keep getting

disappoointed

[Octafish]

34. Cass Sunstein and Martin Bashir said nice things about Margaret Thatcher.

Sunstein, the lone nutter's friend, spouted on about Dame Maggie being a realist. Bashir couldn't talk enough about privatization and how the trains and such never were the same. Hayes went along, smiled a lot.

[Jennicut]

35. Martin Bashir did not say nice things about Thatcher. He detested her. He pretty much talked about

how bad she was all day. Hayes had nothing nice to say about her at all. The whole opening of his show was dedicated to talking about the destruction she caused.

[Octafish]

37. Thanks for making that clear. I tend to remember the overall impression than details from tee vee...

...which I have to write down. Here's video from the "rip-roaring attack from the left."

http://video.msnbc.msn.com/all-in-/51473535#51473535

Certainly, Hayes and Bashir make clear how Maggie loved deregulation and loathed egalitarianism as much as Ronald Reagan. Bashir, on second viewing, made clear to point out British labor union's role in the economic malaise. Then he touched the heartstrings mentioning his brother who suffers from muscular dystrophy.

When Hayes talked about the importance of consensus, though, Cass Sunstein is the special case. From what I can see, that guy wants to be the DLC's Phil Zelikow. On Haye's show, Sunstein made the point that Thatcher and Reagan led the way in combating ozone depletion. He also talked about the best parts of Reaganism, "which cuts across parts of Democratic administrations" is cost-and-benefits analysis in deregulations, such as when Reagan got rid of lead in gasoline, "evidence based."

[senseandsensibility]

38. I do remember Chris Hayes reading the she hated working people quote

from the coal miner, along with a list of other very negative "accomplishments" of Thatcher.

[neverforget]

41. Rachel interviewed Steve Schmidt tonight about Chained CPI.

He thinks it's great. Rachel not so much.