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bvar22

(39,909 posts)
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 02:33 PM Apr 2013

THIS is "Don't Cut Social Security" GOLD.













Many, many more at:
http://savesocialsecurity.tumblr.com/

I will be adding my own later today.

Spread the Word.




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THIS is "Don't Cut Social Security" GOLD. (Original Post) bvar22 Apr 2013 OP
K&R. MotherPetrie Apr 2013 #1
K & R Roy Rolling Apr 2013 #25
It is simple,, pangaia Apr 2013 #66
HUGE K & R !!! WillyT Apr 2013 #2
K&R! neverforget Apr 2013 #3
K&R! KoKo Apr 2013 #4
Nice. Kinda reminds me of sorryeverybody.com after DimSon "won." WorseBeforeBetter Apr 2013 #5
those people don't realize how stupid they are datasuspect Apr 2013 #6
202-456-1111 AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #8
Don't mind them bvar22 Apr 2013 #9
jeez datasuspect Apr 2013 #11
When I saw that LOLcats pic, I thought of the gungeoneers upon any mention of gun control. SunSeeker Apr 2013 #38
Yeah, that was pretty fucked up. Dragonfli Apr 2013 #46
I missed that one. MuseRider Apr 2013 #48
You have donnasgirl Apr 2013 #57
I add my vote for that award. Curmudgeoness Apr 2013 #60
While we're at it: Here is White House TELEPHONE COMMENTS LINE: Faryn Balyncd Apr 2013 #7
This is gold! MuseRider Apr 2013 #10
K&R newfie11 Apr 2013 #12
If there's a picture of someone holding a sign, it must be true michigandem58 Apr 2013 #13
No shit. The level of hysteria of this place has become psychotic! Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #22
Like duh! They should know he like offered to raise benefits in negotiations! Dragonfli Apr 2013 #49
kick phantom power Apr 2013 #14
kr HiPointDem Apr 2013 #15
K&R I wish all Jakes Progress Apr 2013 #16
K&R 99Forever Apr 2013 #17
I convinced my apolitical non-voting mom to vote for the first time in decades because Obama was the Ed Suspicious Apr 2013 #18
+1 ...know how that feels n/t L0oniX Apr 2013 #36
du rec. nt xchrom Apr 2013 #19
CAN WE CREATE A SEPARATE FORUM FOR THIS???!!! PLEASE!!!!! Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #20
How about you go to a lolcats site in the interim? Scootaloo Apr 2013 #27
Better than that: I am trashing every thread with "chained cpi" or "social security" in the title. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #28
There you go! Take it into your own hands! Scootaloo Apr 2013 #29
Goodbye, Good Luck, don't let the door..... bvar22 Apr 2013 #31
My presence bothers you? Okay. I just changed my mind. I'm untrashing all of it. See you around! Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #32
LOL. nt SunSeeker Apr 2013 #37
Flip Flopper. bvar22 Apr 2013 #43
Post of the week! HangOnKids Apr 2013 #93
AMEN! Doctor_J Apr 2013 #42
That is good. I support the same. timdog44 Apr 2013 #81
I think that's a fine idea. pa28 Mar 2014 #101
You mad bro? Rex Apr 2013 #47
Not at all. How are you doing? Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #87
Good. Just checking. Rex Apr 2013 #91
And how old are you? Mira Apr 2013 #78
I'm old enough to be worried about social security but young enough... Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #84
"Get these god damned social security threads off of my DU" bobduca Apr 2013 #83
The DU software makes it pretty easy to ignore all these threads, but let me ask you: Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #86
I just accept that I'm not the arbiter of a thread's worth on DU. bobduca Apr 2013 #88
K&R cantbeserious Apr 2013 #21
I don't know which one is worse... TRoN33 Apr 2013 #23
Just look at that old couple zeemike Apr 2013 #24
k/r 840high Apr 2013 #26
K&R (n/t) bread_and_roses Apr 2013 #30
K&R ReRe Apr 2013 #33
K & R Mr President ...don't ever bring up SS again ...not ever ...do you get the message? L0oniX Apr 2013 #34
buncha obama-bashers having a hissyfit! they never loved him anyway.... KG Apr 2013 #35
Racists. Haters. Ponies. Doctor_J Apr 2013 #41
Poutrage. Occulus Apr 2013 #53
Bullies. neverforget Apr 2013 #72
Well done! nt Demo_Chris Apr 2013 #39
Well done. madfloridian Apr 2013 #40
Before the election, a lot of Obama supporters were saying Lydia Leftcoast Apr 2013 #44
I told my old Fox News addicted dad, Doctor_J Apr 2013 #54
Yeppers, he's letting his true asshole self show through kath Apr 2013 #63
You noticed that too? dreamnightwind Apr 2013 #75
Wow... Latest One (I Think)... WillyT Apr 2013 #45
These are excellent Carolina Apr 2013 #50
every time i see that picture of paul.... madrchsod Apr 2013 #51
This is a disaster for Democrats. This should be used as the classic example of how to lose sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #52
Republicans will use this AGAINST Democrats in 2014 AgingAmerican Apr 2013 #92
Somebody at the White House must read DU, right? xtraxritical Apr 2013 #55
If they don't monitor it, they are fools. nt Curmudgeoness Apr 2013 #62
If we call 202-456-1111 timdog44 Apr 2013 #82
K&R. Maybe it won't happen maybe it won't happen...this is just a nightmare....nt Honeycombe8 Apr 2013 #56
Sorry donnasgirl Apr 2013 #58
If you're not a Billionaire then Obama doesn't care Demo_Chris Apr 2013 #59
Excellent. (nt) DirkGently Apr 2013 #61
At the very least ... Babel_17 Apr 2013 #64
Awesome. blackspade Apr 2013 #65
K&R HarmonyRockets Apr 2013 #67
Hello ~ HarmonyRockets In_The_Wind Apr 2013 #95
Oh fucks yes, Lebowski! Poll_Blind Apr 2013 #68
K&R. myrna minx Apr 2013 #69
Obama lied ? blkmusclmachine Apr 2013 #70
Barack Obama deceived and lied wasserman Apr 2013 #71
Really, really well done. K&R SaveOurDemocracy Apr 2013 #73
Solifuckindarity man! Union Scribe Apr 2013 #74
Sorry, but those folks were not paying attention. BO talked about "entitlement reform" in 2009. merrily Apr 2013 #76
Yes. We DID pay attention. bvar22 Apr 2013 #80
Oh but I was told here on DU that video was BEFORE the election bobduca Apr 2013 #90
It was way before the 2012 election, which is the election that the voters in the OP refer to. merrily Apr 2013 #97
Try reading a post before you call it bullshit. merrily Apr 2013 #96
Astounding... BO is proposing cuts, and its the voters fault for what? bobduca Apr 2013 #85
K&R--no one campaigned, supported, or voted for Obama so he could cut SS! n/t AndyA Apr 2013 #77
I have been speechless. It just doesn't make sense... BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2013 #79
Most people are quite capapble of disagreeing on policy without "hating." Aren't you? merrily Apr 2013 #98
I don't have a problem disagreeing with specific policies.... BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2013 #99
Senator Warren knows, I trust her more than most at this juncture. M_A Apr 2013 #89
K&R idwiyo Apr 2013 #94
K&R (nt) Kurovski Mar 2014 #100
May I ask what prompted the K&R of a year-old post? JHB Mar 2014 #102
An accident. I had about six threads lined up that folks linked to. Kurovski Mar 2014 #103

Roy Rolling

(6,917 posts)
25. K & R
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 04:37 PM
Apr 2013

What is so freakin' difficult about raising the ceiling on Social Security wage caps? That's a no-brainer....

Oh wait, I understand. That would require brains from the current gaggle of decision-makers in Washington. *sigh* the optimism of ex-hippies.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
66. It is simple,,
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 09:13 PM
Apr 2013

They are all bought and paid for by those very people upon whom we want to raise the cap.

 

datasuspect

(26,591 posts)
6. those people don't realize how stupid they are
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 02:47 PM
Apr 2013

and how lucky we are to have a demigod who knows elentymillionth level 4d chess in realtime.

they just need to make obama do stuff and call the white house and stuff.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
9. Don't mind them
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 03:11 PM
Apr 2013

They're just throwing "Itty, Bitty, HissyFits".

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022632517
(My award for the most Callous, Insensitive, Dismissive, Disgusting, Thread EVER posted at DU.)

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
60. I add my vote for that award.
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 08:12 PM
Apr 2013

I saw that yesterday and didn't even know how to respond to it. And it isn't easy to leave me lost for words.

Faryn Balyncd

(5,125 posts)
7. While we're at it: Here is White House TELEPHONE COMMENTS LINE:
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 02:49 PM
Apr 2013


http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022635705#op


It is only a very short wait (too short, in fact).

The volunteer comment takers are polite when they take your comments. Be courteous.

We need to bombard the phone lines RE: SS before the petitions are delivered this week.

MuseRider

(34,109 posts)
10. This is gold!
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 03:12 PM
Apr 2013

Thanks bvar22! Miss seeing you but when you show up it is always good. Will be waiting to see yours.

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
49. Like duh! They should know he like offered to raise benefits in negotiations!
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 06:59 PM
Apr 2013

Those Idiots will believe anything the White House claims to have offered, the White House is like Bagger central, but we know what is true!

Jakes Progress

(11,122 posts)
16. K&R I wish all
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 03:41 PM
Apr 2013

the president's men who guard him from reality and the people would mess up, and he could see this. If Friend's School wasn't filled with the offspring of other millionaires who will never need SS, the girls would be catching this from their friends at school. As it is Obama and his family are insulated from the people who elected them.

(God, I hope he's insulated. The only other way to view this is that cutting SS and protecting the rich is what he really wants to do, that he is that cold and that mean and that dumb. We have to just hope that he is only clueless and inept. The alternative is horrible.)

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
18. I convinced my apolitical non-voting mom to vote for the first time in decades because Obama was the
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 03:43 PM
Apr 2013

only one who would protect social security. Her checks are small enough as it is, and living without 401k or pension, she is right at the poverty line. She came out and voted for the president.

Thanks for making a liar out of me, Mr. President.


(that's code for fuck you)

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
20. CAN WE CREATE A SEPARATE FORUM FOR THIS???!!! PLEASE!!!!!
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 03:50 PM
Apr 2013

Sweet fargin' Jeebus! Hundreds of threads every god damned day!

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
27. How about you go to a lolcats site in the interim?
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 04:43 PM
Apr 2013

'Cause social security is, to quote Biden, "A Big Fucking Deal." Don't like seeing it as a big topic on DU? Well, maybe it's vacation time?

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
28. Better than that: I am trashing every thread with "chained cpi" or "social security" in the title.
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 04:49 PM
Apr 2013

However, that feature doesn't keep the endless stream of premature obsession off the front page.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
31. Goodbye, Good Luck, don't let the door.....
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 04:56 PM
Apr 2013

I'm bvar22,
and I support Buzz Click's heart felt and agonized decision to NOT Participate in any thread concerning Social Security, Medicare, or the Chained CPI.

Can I get an "AMEN"?

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
32. My presence bothers you? Okay. I just changed my mind. I'm untrashing all of it. See you around!
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 04:58 PM
Apr 2013

pa28

(6,145 posts)
101. I think that's a fine idea.
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 02:36 AM
Mar 2014

Buzz Click's beautiful mind will no longer be troubled and he can use the extra time fix that broken cap-lock key.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
84. I'm old enough to be worried about social security but young enough...
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 11:37 AM
Apr 2013

... that I can remember what's been posted on the subject at least 100 times already.

Somewhere in all of this, somebody was spouting off at me and inadvertently summed it up quite nicely: this is all about fear.

bobduca

(1,763 posts)
83. "Get these god damned social security threads off of my DU"
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 11:31 AM
Apr 2013

that would certainly make it easier for you and others to ignore this issue wouldnt it?

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
86. The DU software makes it pretty easy to ignore all these threads, but let me ask you:
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 11:42 AM
Apr 2013

How many threads per day are enough for one topic when absolutely nothing is being posted?

One is not enough because the threads rotate off the board and the topic disappears. Considering we are getting roughly 100 per day every day for the past week or two, that's a lot of unneeded repetition. And, of course, to kill the boredom, the noise level and hysteria are being ratcheted up. This thread is a perfect example. Nothing has happened, but people are reacting as if grandma is living in a dumpster because she's been thrown out of her apartment and hasn't eat a bit in 5 days.

Sorry, but I went from annoy to amused to annoyed again. It's been that awful.

bobduca

(1,763 posts)
88. I just accept that I'm not the arbiter of a thread's worth on DU.
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 11:45 AM
Apr 2013

thats how i deal with unwanted threads. You can choose to rage against the choices of individual posters who feel the need to express themselves with new threads, but I think it's a waste of one's anger/energy.

Maybe try and show some actual empathy for these individuals who are posting personal testimony about how strapped they are for assistance. That might be the better way?

I also hide all gun threads so I can understand that personal tastes vary, re what gets under our skins.

 

TRoN33

(769 posts)
23. I don't know which one is worse...
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 04:06 PM
Apr 2013

Listened to Romney's constant bullshits and exaggerated a lot of the claims or President Obama's "Great Betrayal" of his close supporters who fought hard for his beliefs of being the protector of the middle class and the less fortunate? For many Americans who voted for him, looks like its going to be the latter over the former. Romney must be smiling out somewhere now.

President Obama are practically throwing up the .

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
24. Just look at that old couple
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 04:25 PM
Apr 2013

Living it up on your tax dollar...eating the expensive caned cat food...
Let them eat Kibbles and Bits...

Lydia Leftcoast

(48,217 posts)
44. Before the election, a lot of Obama supporters were saying
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 06:17 PM
Apr 2013

"Now that he doesn't have to be re-elected, he'll let his true liberal self show through" or words to that effect.

I always had a sneaking suspicion that exactly the opposite would be true.

I was right.

I don't like it that I was right.

dreamnightwind

(4,775 posts)
75. You noticed that too?
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 01:44 AM
Apr 2013

I couldn't believe it when I would read opinions like that. They completely misunderstood the reality of the situation, 180 degrees off. Obama is a likeable human and claims to be a Dem. Sad that those two things are enough to lead to so much policy blindness.

Carolina

(6,960 posts)
50. These are excellent
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 07:00 PM
Apr 2013

and so sad.

Obama keeps seeking a grand bargain with stupid and loathesome repukes, but the truth is there is no such thing to be had and instead Obama is just THE GRAND BETRAYER

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
52. This is a disaster for Democrats. This should be used as the classic example of how to lose
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 07:10 PM
Apr 2013

elections. What is he thinking?

Democrats better distance themselves from this fast or we will surely have a clean Republican sweep in 2014 and they will lie again, as they did in 2010 from which they learned nothing, and claim that 'liberals stayed home'. Although this time that just may happen if Democrats in Congress even think about voting for this outrageous proposal.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
92. Republicans will use this AGAINST Democrats in 2014
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 12:44 PM
Apr 2013

There is absolutely no reason for Obama proposing this except that the Republicans don't like SS. He gets zero in return and we are screwed.

timdog44

(1,388 posts)
82. If we call 202-456-1111
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 11:27 AM
Apr 2013

they will hear from us. I called this morning. Had to call several times because it was busy. Then when I got in, about a 5 minute. "I am from Illinois and I want my home state president to take SS, Medicare and Medicaid off the table, please." And a very nice, pollite young lady said she would inform him of my sentiments. Also let her know my republican friends (I do have a few) are also wanting the same thing.

 

Demo_Chris

(6,234 posts)
59. If you're not a Billionaire then Obama doesn't care
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 08:08 PM
Apr 2013

just a handy rhyme to remind you where you stand.

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
64. At the very least ...
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 08:34 PM
Apr 2013

these photos, and the widespread sentiment they reflect, should cause the administration to regroup and reflect. Hopefully, next we hear from them, we'll know they understand what all the protesting is about.

I'd like a symbolic bone thrown our way as well. I'd like the administration to invite someone like Senator Sanders to a substantive sit-down.

Should Sanders say he liked what he was hearing, all the better.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
76. Sorry, but those folks were not paying attention. BO talked about "entitlement reform" in 2009.
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 06:16 AM
Apr 2013

What did they think he meant? Did they even bother to ask?

I don't want the cuts, either, but that is no reason to pretend voters did their job.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
80. Yes. We DID pay attention.
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 11:12 AM
Apr 2013

That old bullshit just doesn't work in the modern era of VIDEO.
Roll The Tape!






You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their excuses.
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bobduca

(1,763 posts)
90. Oh but I was told here on DU that video was BEFORE the election
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 11:49 AM
Apr 2013

back when campaign promises were flowing like water, don't you know we were not supposed to believe any of that? that was just so he would get elected.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
97. It was way before the 2012 election, which is the election that the voters in the OP refer to.
Wed Apr 10, 2013, 08:09 AM
Apr 2013

Between 2009 and 2012, there were any number of indications from various sources that Obama did indeed want to cut Social Security.

I did not hear many voters questioning him about those during his 2012 campaign. I blame him, but I blame them, too.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
96. Try reading a post before you call it bullshit.
Wed Apr 10, 2013, 07:47 AM
Apr 2013

Your OP is a bunch of people saying they voted and/or for Obama in 2012. My post said they did not pay attention to what he said in 2009. You "rolled" tape from Meet the Press in 2008.

FYI, 2008 is before both 2009 and 2012.


Between January 2009 and November 2012, the election that voters in your OP were regretting, there were quite a few indications, including statements made by Obama himself, that he was in fact going to cut Social Security benefits. He got precious little questioning on that before the 2012 election.


ETA: I am pointing out something that voters did wrong only in the hopes that we will be more attentive next time. I am by no means defending Obama. But, voters did not do their job in 2012.

Here are links to but a couple of stories that should have lead to lots of inquiries when Obama was campaigning in 2012.

http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2009-01-16/politics/36899872_1_barack-obama-key-economic-priority-items-entitlement-reform (date on this article is January 16, 2009, well after the 2008 election, but only a few days before Obama's first inauguration.)

http://www.crewof42.com/news/conyers-on-jobs-weve-had-it-lays-out-obama-calls-for-protest-at-white-house/

A body language expert would have spotted that Obama was not being forthright even in the tape you posted (for one thing, all that blinking is a "tell.&quot But I would not have expected voters to pick up on that.

bobduca

(1,763 posts)
85. Astounding... BO is proposing cuts, and its the voters fault for what?
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 11:39 AM
Apr 2013

for not voting for the non-centrist? Yeah that wasn't an option in most primaries if you recall.

Apparently its the voters fault for not willing another candidate into the primaries? I get that you are saying you knew that he was going to make the cuts, but its clear that wasn't the dominant theme of 'Hope' and 'Change'

These people clearly didn't pay attention to that, what with their lack of political obsession, like those of us on DU.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
79. I have been speechless. It just doesn't make sense...
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 11:07 AM
Apr 2013

Last edited Wed Apr 10, 2013, 09:32 AM - Edit history (1)

Thats Too much cognitive dissonance.

I still am having a hard time digesting this.....and I don't think I could get on the Obama Sucks bandwagon--he's done so many good thngs that I can't nullify all that in order to start hating.

BUT I sure as shit will add my voice to the uprising against this travesty

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
99. I don't have a problem disagreeing with specific policies....
Wed Apr 10, 2013, 01:47 PM
Apr 2013

but I also admit that it's fraught with emotions that need to be parsed out for me...something I've been having a hard time with. It's difficult because I have such high hopes and his trustworthyness signals are so strong, for me.

Serious cognitive dissonance.

Also, so much of the discussion about this bad stuff is also full of emotion, angry, *hateful* even in a fair number of posts.

Hard to make the psychological shift.


Also I would have appreciated a less snarky sounding reply. Unless you didn't mean for that to sound so snarky. See, that's the other thing around here....you put your distress out there as you try to process something and find that some people are quick to kick you when you're confused and trying to make sense of things.

Kurovski

(34,655 posts)
103. An accident. I had about six threads lined up that folks linked to.
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 05:49 AM
Mar 2014

I read most of them and kicked the wrong one.

Frankly, I'm surprised it rose up to the top.

I should have been in bed three hours ago, see, this is what happens.

I'm so very tired....

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