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MotherPetrie
(3,145 posts)Roy Rolling
(6,917 posts)What is so freakin' difficult about raising the ceiling on Social Security wage caps? That's a no-brainer....
Oh wait, I understand. That would require brains from the current gaggle of decision-makers in Washington. *sigh* the optimism of ex-hippies.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)They are all bought and paid for by those very people upon whom we want to raise the cap.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)neverforget
(9,436 posts)WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)Solidarity.
datasuspect
(26,591 posts)and how lucky we are to have a demigod who knows elentymillionth level 4d chess in realtime.
they just need to make obama do stuff and call the white house and stuff.
AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)bvar22
(39,909 posts)They're just throwing "Itty, Bitty, HissyFits".
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022632517
(My award for the most Callous, Insensitive, Dismissive, Disgusting, Thread EVER posted at DU.)
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SunSeeker
(51,557 posts)Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)MuseRider
(34,109 posts)Just read it. You are correct with your description.
That right, no truer words have ever been spoken
Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)I saw that yesterday and didn't even know how to respond to it. And it isn't easy to leave me lost for words.
Faryn Balyncd
(5,125 posts)http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022635705#op
It is only a very short wait (too short, in fact).
The volunteer comment takers are polite when they take your comments. Be courteous.
We need to bombard the phone lines RE: SS before the petitions are delivered this week.
MuseRider
(34,109 posts)Thanks bvar22! Miss seeing you but when you show up it is always good. Will be waiting to see yours.
michigandem58
(1,044 posts)Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)Those Idiots will believe anything the White House claims to have offered, the White House is like Bagger central, but we know what is true!
phantom power
(25,966 posts):kick:
Jakes Progress
(11,122 posts)the president's men who guard him from reality and the people would mess up, and he could see this. If Friend's School wasn't filled with the offspring of other millionaires who will never need SS, the girls would be catching this from their friends at school. As it is Obama and his family are insulated from the people who elected them.
(God, I hope he's insulated. The only other way to view this is that cutting SS and protecting the rich is what he really wants to do, that he is that cold and that mean and that dumb. We have to just hope that he is only clueless and inept. The alternative is horrible.)
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)only one who would protect social security. Her checks are small enough as it is, and living without 401k or pension, she is right at the poverty line. She came out and voted for the president.
Thanks for making a liar out of me, Mr. President.
(that's code for fuck you)
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)xchrom
(108,903 posts)Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)Sweet fargin' Jeebus! Hundreds of threads every god damned day!
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)'Cause social security is, to quote Biden, "A Big Fucking Deal." Don't like seeing it as a big topic on DU? Well, maybe it's vacation time?
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)However, that feature doesn't keep the endless stream of premature obsession off the front page.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)bvar22
(39,909 posts)I'm bvar22,
and I support Buzz Click's heart felt and agonized decision to NOT Participate in any thread concerning Social Security, Medicare, or the Chained CPI.
Can I get an "AMEN"?
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)SunSeeker
(51,557 posts)bvar22
(39,909 posts)I'm heart broken.
HangOnKids
(4,291 posts)We need a no Kool-Aid zone anyway. Isn't there already a fan club forum?
timdog44
(1,388 posts)A thorn in many threads I have seen click's buzz. Amen!!!
pa28
(6,145 posts)Buzz Click's beautiful mind will no longer be troubled and he can use the extra time fix that broken cap-lock key.
Rex
(65,616 posts)nt.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)With all that shouting, something got you worked up.
Mira
(22,380 posts)Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)... that I can remember what's been posted on the subject at least 100 times already.
Somewhere in all of this, somebody was spouting off at me and inadvertently summed it up quite nicely: this is all about fear.
bobduca
(1,763 posts)that would certainly make it easier for you and others to ignore this issue wouldnt it?
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)How many threads per day are enough for one topic when absolutely nothing is being posted?
One is not enough because the threads rotate off the board and the topic disappears. Considering we are getting roughly 100 per day every day for the past week or two, that's a lot of unneeded repetition. And, of course, to kill the boredom, the noise level and hysteria are being ratcheted up. This thread is a perfect example. Nothing has happened, but people are reacting as if grandma is living in a dumpster because she's been thrown out of her apartment and hasn't eat a bit in 5 days.
Sorry, but I went from annoy to amused to annoyed again. It's been that awful.
bobduca
(1,763 posts)thats how i deal with unwanted threads. You can choose to rage against the choices of individual posters who feel the need to express themselves with new threads, but I think it's a waste of one's anger/energy.
Maybe try and show some actual empathy for these individuals who are posting personal testimony about how strapped they are for assistance. That might be the better way?
I also hide all gun threads so I can understand that personal tastes vary, re what gets under our skins.
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
TRoN33
(769 posts)Listened to Romney's constant bullshits and exaggerated a lot of the claims or President Obama's "Great Betrayal" of his close supporters who fought hard for his beliefs of being the protector of the middle class and the less fortunate? For many Americans who voted for him, looks like its going to be the latter over the former. Romney must be smiling out somewhere now.
President Obama are practically throwing up the .
zeemike
(18,998 posts)Living it up on your tax dollar...eating the expensive caned cat food...
Let them eat Kibbles and Bits...
bread_and_roses
(6,335 posts)L0oniX
(31,493 posts)KG
(28,751 posts)Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)Occulus
(20,599 posts)neverforget
(9,436 posts)Demo_Chris
(6,234 posts)madfloridian
(88,117 posts)Lydia Leftcoast
(48,217 posts)"Now that he doesn't have to be re-elected, he'll let his true liberal self show through" or words to that effect.
I always had a sneaking suspicion that exactly the opposite would be true.
I was right.
I don't like it that I was right.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)Oops.
kath
(10,565 posts)dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)I couldn't believe it when I would read opinions like that. They completely misunderstood the reality of the situation, 180 degrees off. Obama is a likeable human and claims to be a Dem. Sad that those two things are enough to lead to so much policy blindness.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)Carolina
(6,960 posts)and so sad.
Obama keeps seeking a grand bargain with stupid and loathesome repukes, but the truth is there is no such thing to be had and instead Obama is just THE GRAND BETRAYER
madrchsod
(58,162 posts)i realize just how much we have lost.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)elections. What is he thinking?
Democrats better distance themselves from this fast or we will surely have a clean Republican sweep in 2014 and they will lie again, as they did in 2010 from which they learned nothing, and claim that 'liberals stayed home'. Although this time that just may happen if Democrats in Congress even think about voting for this outrageous proposal.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)There is absolutely no reason for Obama proposing this except that the Republicans don't like SS. He gets zero in return and we are screwed.
xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)timdog44
(1,388 posts)they will hear from us. I called this morning. Had to call several times because it was busy. Then when I got in, about a 5 minute. "I am from Illinois and I want my home state president to take SS, Medicare and Medicaid off the table, please." And a very nice, pollite young lady said she would inform him of my sentiments. Also let her know my republican friends (I do have a few) are also wanting the same thing.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)donnasgirl
(656 posts)It's not a nightmare, they are pushing it.
Demo_Chris
(6,234 posts)just a handy rhyme to remind you where you stand.
DirkGently
(12,151 posts)Babel_17
(5,400 posts)these photos, and the widespread sentiment they reflect, should cause the administration to regroup and reflect. Hopefully, next we hear from them, we'll know they understand what all the protesting is about.
I'd like a symbolic bone thrown our way as well. I'd like the administration to invite someone like Senator Sanders to a substantive sit-down.
Should Sanders say he liked what he was hearing, all the better.
blackspade
(10,056 posts)HarmonyRockets
(397 posts)In_The_Wind
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Poll_Blind
(23,864 posts)PB
myrna minx
(22,772 posts)blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)wasserman
(14 posts)that's the bottom line
SaveOurDemocracy
(4,400 posts)Union Scribe
(7,099 posts)Great post!
merrily
(45,251 posts)What did they think he meant? Did they even bother to ask?
I don't want the cuts, either, but that is no reason to pretend voters did their job.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)That old bullshit just doesn't work in the modern era of VIDEO.
Roll The Tape!
You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their excuses.
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bobduca
(1,763 posts)back when campaign promises were flowing like water, don't you know we were not supposed to believe any of that? that was just so he would get elected.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Between 2009 and 2012, there were any number of indications from various sources that Obama did indeed want to cut Social Security.
I did not hear many voters questioning him about those during his 2012 campaign. I blame him, but I blame them, too.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Your OP is a bunch of people saying they voted and/or for Obama in 2012. My post said they did not pay attention to what he said in 2009. You "rolled" tape from Meet the Press in 2008.
FYI, 2008 is before both 2009 and 2012.
Between January 2009 and November 2012, the election that voters in your OP were regretting, there were quite a few indications, including statements made by Obama himself, that he was in fact going to cut Social Security benefits. He got precious little questioning on that before the 2012 election.
ETA: I am pointing out something that voters did wrong only in the hopes that we will be more attentive next time. I am by no means defending Obama. But, voters did not do their job in 2012.
Here are links to but a couple of stories that should have lead to lots of inquiries when Obama was campaigning in 2012.
http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2009-01-16/politics/36899872_1_barack-obama-key-economic-priority-items-entitlement-reform (date on this article is January 16, 2009, well after the 2008 election, but only a few days before Obama's first inauguration.)
http://www.crewof42.com/news/conyers-on-jobs-weve-had-it-lays-out-obama-calls-for-protest-at-white-house/
A body language expert would have spotted that Obama was not being forthright even in the tape you posted (for one thing, all that blinking is a "tell." But I would not have expected voters to pick up on that.
bobduca
(1,763 posts)for not voting for the non-centrist? Yeah that wasn't an option in most primaries if you recall.
Apparently its the voters fault for not willing another candidate into the primaries? I get that you are saying you knew that he was going to make the cuts, but its clear that wasn't the dominant theme of 'Hope' and 'Change'
These people clearly didn't pay attention to that, what with their lack of political obsession, like those of us on DU.
AndyA
(16,993 posts)BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Last edited Wed Apr 10, 2013, 09:32 AM - Edit history (1)
Thats Too much cognitive dissonance.
I still am having a hard time digesting this.....and I don't think I could get on the Obama Sucks bandwagon--he's done so many good thngs that I can't nullify all that in order to start hating.
BUT I sure as shit will add my voice to the uprising against this travesty
merrily
(45,251 posts)BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)but I also admit that it's fraught with emotions that need to be parsed out for me...something I've been having a hard time with. It's difficult because I have such high hopes and his trustworthyness signals are so strong, for me.
Serious cognitive dissonance.
Also, so much of the discussion about this bad stuff is also full of emotion, angry, *hateful* even in a fair number of posts.
Hard to make the psychological shift.
Also I would have appreciated a less snarky sounding reply. Unless you didn't mean for that to sound so snarky. See, that's the other thing around here....you put your distress out there as you try to process something and find that some people are quick to kick you when you're confused and trying to make sense of things.
M_A
(72 posts)Kurovski
(34,655 posts)JHB
(37,160 posts)Kurovski
(34,655 posts)I read most of them and kicked the wrong one.
Frankly, I'm surprised it rose up to the top.
I should have been in bed three hours ago, see, this is what happens.
I'm so very tired....