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madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 12:41 AM Apr 2013

Something else to laugh about as more senior services suffer.

It all seems to be a joke to many. The fact that services greatly needed to keep seniors in their homes are being cut back drastically seems to be a laughing matter.

I already posted about Meals on Wheels getting drastic cuts, and 4 on the thread blamed the seniors

Florida is being hit hard.

Here's more, so get your snickering ready.

Sequestration cuts having impact on public aid agencies

Three weeks after the start of the automatic $85 billion reduction in federal spending known as sequestration, local agencies providing housing, food and support services to the region’s elderly and poor are still waiting to learn how deeply their programs will be impacted and whether their contingency plans will spare the elimination of current service recipients.

Designed to be so painful they will force lawmakers to adopt a plan to reduce the escalating federal deficit, the cut includes an across-the-board 5 percent reduction in funding for domestic programs and a 7.8 percent cut to military spending.

While the continuing federal budget resolution adopted last week has restored funding to a limited number of programs, local programs hit by cuts include Meals on Wheels and other in-home services that allow seniors to delay the costs of nursing home placement, the Head Start preschool program that allows low-income parents to work and attend school, public housing and the regional food bank’s federal food commodities program.

Kathy Whitaker, director of the Area Agency on Aging that administers referrals for the Meals on Wheels and Personal Support Services programs provided by the First Tennessee Human Resource Agency for elderly residents in Northeast Tennessee, said her office has been advised to prepare for a 5 percent to 8 percent cut in funding for fiscal 2013. Through June 30, she said a 5 percent cut will equate to the elimination of 1,892 meals or the equivalent of 25 individual consumers.


Things that will allow seniors and disabled to continue to live in their own homes are being cut.

What has happened to empathy for our fellow Americans? It appears to have become a topic for ridicule.
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Something else to laugh about as more senior services suffer. (Original Post) madfloridian Apr 2013 OP
Meanwhile, what happened to the list of Americans with deposits JDPriestly Apr 2013 #1
They are just fine and dandy. No consequences for them. madfloridian Apr 2013 #2
+! Newest Reality Apr 2013 #44
Stop your self-indulgent bullshit alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #3
Why don't you say what you really think? madfloridian Apr 2013 #4
You can either argue the merits or not...but it doesn't appear so alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #6
Good, keep on venting. madfloridian Apr 2013 #7
Post removed Post removed Apr 2013 #9
You're being the bully here. Union Scribe Apr 2013 #14
Bullshit: I'm calling put a disgusting tactic on the part of the OP alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #16
You're in full rage mode Union Scribe Apr 2013 #18
More nonsense alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #19
you really need to look in the mirror neverforget Apr 2013 #22
Another one alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #23
The irony of your post is striking. neverforget Apr 2013 #24
And yours alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #27
And here you are calling "bullshit" and "nonsense" calling people bullies neverforget Apr 2013 #28
The OP claims that people are laughing at suffering alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #31
The OP is a fascist? Union Scribe Apr 2013 #32
They are all around you! replying to your posts like SAVAGES!111 bobduca Apr 2013 #26
Paranoia is not becoming, Union Scribe Apr 2013 #29
I'm fine with people opposed to the administration alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #33
You're mischaracterising the OP Union Scribe Apr 2013 #34
thankfully, it appears the thread disruptor has been kicked out of the thread quinnox Apr 2013 #35
Oh no Union Scribe Apr 2013 #39
lol, it is all part of the conspiracy! quinnox Apr 2013 #41
What is there to disagree about, here? caseymoz Apr 2013 #43
Well said. Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #30
. Hissyspit Apr 2013 #5
Despite the fevered imaginations of a very aggressive pack of bullies alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #8
Calling us a pack of bullies....not very wise. madfloridian Apr 2013 #10
Why? Are the bullies now going to stuff me in a locker? alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #11
Maybe the uptick in the "Mob" is due to Obama proposing CPI cuts to SS? bobduca Apr 2013 #13
The term "poutrage" was actually specifically banned by Skinner at DU2 Hissyspit Apr 2013 #20
Lots of stuff banned on DU2 goes on here now alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #21
Yes, and...? Hissyspit Apr 2013 #25
No one here is laughing that I see, but your sanctimonious attempt at superiority is duly noted KittyWampus Apr 2013 #12
More than sanctimony.. 1983law Apr 2013 #40
It is hearbreaking that supporters of Social Security are beiing mocked. Luminous Animal Apr 2013 #15
K&R - People who are comfortable don't have a clue quinnox Apr 2013 #17
I know from this is happening now. dem in texas Apr 2013 #36
.... DeSwiss Apr 2013 #38
There is nothing lower than deliberately hurting the vulnerable or defending those who do. forestpath Apr 2013 #37
+1000 abelenkpe Apr 2013 #42
Amen to that. madfloridian Apr 2013 #45
As I write this, DU shows there are 45 replies to this thread Blecht Apr 2013 #46
+1 LiberalLoner Apr 2013 #48
Kick. Don't let the bully silence you. The Link Apr 2013 #47

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
1. Meanwhile, what happened to the list of Americans with deposits
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 01:01 AM
Apr 2013

in tax havens?

I really want to see the names.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
2. They are just fine and dandy. No consequences for them.
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 01:03 AM
Apr 2013

Just for those who get older and need more care. There is now an Ayn Randian atmosphere where it never used to be.

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
44. +!
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 07:56 AM
Apr 2013

They may want us to "move along folks, nothing to see here!" on that one.

That money seems to represent a potentially huge amount of lost revenue.

Doubt-standards abound, though. With liberty and justice for SOME.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
4. Why don't you say what you really think?
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 01:22 AM
Apr 2013

No, I don't intend to stop speaking out about harm done.

Self-indulgent bullshit? That really says a lot about your view of others here.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
6. You can either argue the merits or not...but it doesn't appear so
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 01:26 AM
Apr 2013

Instead, you invent nonsenses about people who may (or even may not) disagree with you laughing and joking about suffering, which is pure falsehood. These are bully tactics meant to silence others, and you damn well know it, and they are disgusting. Do you have an actual argument to make, or are you just going to start threads attacking other members of this board with your false and bullying accusations?

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
7. Good, keep on venting.
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 01:28 AM
Apr 2013

I will keep posting reality, and you keep calling me names. That a great way to have dialogue.

Response to madfloridian (Reply #7)

Union Scribe

(7,099 posts)
14. You're being the bully here.
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 01:32 AM
Apr 2013

Shouting people down with invective and aggression and, with a baffling level of tone-deafness, calling other people bullies.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
16. Bullshit: I'm calling put a disgusting tactic on the part of the OP
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 01:35 AM
Apr 2013

Who suggests that anybody who disagrees with her is laughing at cuts to social programs. That is the bully tactic on display here, and you damn well know it. That anyone who mentions how outrageous this tactic is subsequently gets piled on by a mob (as is going to predictably happen here) further shows everybody just who the bullies are here.

Union Scribe

(7,099 posts)
18. You're in full rage mode
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 01:37 AM
Apr 2013

and cannot see how you are behaving. Going ape shit on the OP definitely shows "who the bullies are here" though, you're right about that.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
19. More nonsense
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 01:39 AM
Apr 2013

The pile on by the mob is clear enough to anyone not completely blinded by the crowd allegiance.

neverforget

(9,436 posts)
28. And here you are calling "bullshit" and "nonsense" calling people bullies
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 01:45 AM
Apr 2013

You have become what you are supposedly fighting.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
31. The OP claims that people are laughing at suffering
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 01:47 AM
Apr 2013

People who disagree with her are joking and laughing at suffering har har har. That's the charge. I say without question that that is a bullying tactic. It is an attempt to silence opposition. If anyone has become what we are ALL fighting, it is the OP, and anyone else who would engage in such tactics. We can disagree without such BULLSHIT and NONSENSE. Yes, I'm happy to give those labels to fascist behavior.

Union Scribe

(7,099 posts)
29. Paranoia is not becoming,
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 01:46 AM
Apr 2013

The mob is in your head. What you are seeing is people opposed to an idiotic move by the administration. You can keep pretending it's some conspiracy if you want, but the more you do so the less grounded you appear.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
33. I'm fine with people opposed to the administration
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 01:49 AM
Apr 2013

Indeed, nothing I've posted here or anywhere could possibly suggest that I'm not. I support vigorous debate and dissent to the administration.

What I'm not fine with is the OP's bullying tactic of suggesting that anyone who doesn't agree with her is laughing at or mocking the poor. That's not a conspiracy. It's a judgment of a concrete tactic being deployed by the OP.

Union Scribe

(7,099 posts)
34. You're mischaracterising the OP
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 01:54 AM
Apr 2013

It doesn't say "anyone who doesn't agree"--it is specifically targeted at those who ARE snickering and amusing themselves with this whole affair. There ARE people here doing that. And there are people here doing far worse: such as saying that the elderly voted mostly for Romney anyway, so they should be given over to the GOP's plans for them and become homeless. That happened. That was posted. So don't act like everyone here has golden doves' nests for hearts. Those are the jerks the OP is talking about.

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
35. thankfully, it appears the thread disruptor has been kicked out of the thread
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 02:01 AM
Apr 2013

for personal attacks.

caseymoz

(5,763 posts)
43. What is there to disagree about, here?
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 03:24 AM
Apr 2013

I don't see you challenging her facts. Do you agree or disagree that services are being cut?

If you don't disagree on that, what else is there? That people on previous threads blamed the seniors? Do you think your views were unfairly characterized? You certainly haven't made those views clearer this time around (unless it was the hidden post). It looks up to this message like you've just come around to harass her over something in a previous thread that many here are probably not familiar with (I'm not) and your posts don't inform us any better. No, they look like just personal attacks.

If you feel you were unfairly judged in the previous thread, you just look worse now.
 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
8. Despite the fevered imaginations of a very aggressive pack of bullies
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 01:30 AM
Apr 2013

Nothing in that thread is laughing at cuts. Rather, the butt of that joke seems to be the bulling mob that has run roughshod through this forum for the last two days, attacking anybody who dares not fall immediately in lockstep with their position. And they are a deserving target for ridicule indeed. But the new strategy of that bullying mob - to suggest that people laughing at THEM are actually laughing at the poor - well, that is a new low in forum chilling-effect nonsense, but I'll gladly call out such self-serving shite when I see it, thanks.

bobduca

(1,763 posts)
13. Maybe the uptick in the "Mob" is due to Obama proposing CPI cuts to SS?
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 01:32 AM
Apr 2013

Where there's pitchforks there's torches?

Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
20. The term "poutrage" was actually specifically banned by Skinner at DU2
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 01:39 AM
Apr 2013

as a form of group attack.

I don't know. It looks to me like an attack on anyone concerned with chained CPI being in a Dem budget. Maybe we're just reading it differently.

 

1983law

(213 posts)
40. More than sanctimony..
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 02:25 AM
Apr 2013

The OP was presumptuous, inconsiderate, condescending, and in my view contemptible. Who introduces a thread about something as serious as seniors doing without in such a way? Now, go ahead an empanel a jury...

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
17. K&R - People who are comfortable don't have a clue
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 01:36 AM
Apr 2013

about what these programs mean to those not in their position. Very disgusting to see some so called Democrats make fun of the poor and the vulnerable who depend on these programs.

dem in texas

(2,674 posts)
36. I know from this is happening now.
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 02:02 AM
Apr 2013

I have a 53 year old physically disabled nephew who is also autistic. He receives a Social Security Disability payment as his sole source of income. His parents are both deceased. He can't work because of his health problems. He lives alone and is able to care for himself. He is unable to drive and I go over to see him once a week and take him to the store and people from his church help with getting him to the doctor.

He just got a notice that Medicaid would no longer pay for his Medicare insurance payment, so his check will be reduced by $105 per month. IN 2011, he was one of the lucky people whose name was drawn here in Dallas to get rental assistance. So he gets help with his rent. He just got a letter from the Dallas Housing saying they are cutting their share of his rent by $70 a month starting in May. I expect that the apartment management will find a way to get the 70 dollars from him.

He has no extra money, before these cuts take place. His budget is bare bones, rent, phone, internet service, utilities, groceries and medicine. His dryer went out last month and we (aunts and uncle) bought him a new one. He had a 15 year old computer that bit the dust and we were able to give him one that is outdated but works for him. He does not have cable, he uses a converter box on his old TV to make it HD. He does not own a cell phone. He owes his doctor $185 for co-pays. I called and arranged to pay this off by the month.

The cuts are taking place and they are hurting the poorest people. Our Texas governor struts around and brags about refusing to take US funds for Medicaid and it ends up hurting people like my nephew.

Just thought I'd let you know that this sequester stuff is for real.

Blecht

(3,803 posts)
46. As I write this, DU shows there are 45 replies to this thread
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 10:03 AM
Apr 2013

I wonder why I only see 10?

Thank you, DU, for providing us with the Ignore button!

And thank you, madfloridian, for providing me with a reason to keep coming back to DU -- your posts are always must-read for me.

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