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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFor those who want the President NOT to touch SS perhaps it is time to let the white house know
http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/submit-questions-and-commentsSocial Security is NOT part of the deficit. If they are worried about its solvency then raise the CAP
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Autumn
(45,066 posts)getting it at all.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)wilsonbooks
(972 posts)samplegirl
(11,477 posts)shared sacrafice I let him know.
MotherPetrie
(3,145 posts)Recursion
(56,582 posts)Organizing For Action or whatever they call it now.
MotherPetrie
(3,145 posts)bluethruandthru
(3,918 posts)Obama has definitely been a disappointment.
Union Scribe
(7,099 posts)I await the form letter brush off.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)but you might send them this clip, just in case.
How FAR we have fallen when we have to FIGHT to try to keep a "DEMOCRATIC" President from cutting Social Security.
Yes, Dorothy.
We are not in Kansas anymore,
and pay no attention to the Men Behind the Curtain.
librechik
(30,674 posts)it's just madness in every sense.
Smilo
(1,944 posts)I also put this quote in:
"We can never insure one-hundred percent of the population against one-hundred percent of the hazards and vicissitudes of life. But we have tried to frame a law which will give some measure of protection to the average citizen and to his family against the loss of a job and against poverty-ridden old age. This law, too, represents a cornerstone in a structure which is being built, but is by no means complete.... It is...a law that will take care of human needs and at the same time provide for the United States an economic structure of vastly greater soundness."
-- Franklin D. Roosevelt, August 14, 1935
LWolf
(46,179 posts)Many times?
Somehow you think that NOW, if we "let the white house know" YET AGAIN,
someone in the WH will actually listen, or actually care?
AnnieK401
(541 posts)jerseyjack
(1,361 posts)jerseyjack
(1,361 posts)what he really was about...and it ain't about caring what you and I want.
still_one
(92,187 posts)TheKentuckian
(25,026 posts)It is pretty obvious and if it isn't the level of incompetence is staggering. One is not qualified to be an office holder and sure as hell not President if they don't understand folks need shelter, warmth, water, and food.
susanr516
(1,425 posts)I requested a response, too.
ProfessionalLeftist
(4,982 posts)Dear Mr. President,
I am writing to frankly demand that the White House and President Obama DROP support for any cuts whatsoever to Social Security, including any support for Chained CPI, which Americans are aware is a substantial cut to this retirement program.
Social Security has not added one dime to our debt or deficit and it should not be part of any discussions or grand bargain for reducing the deficit.
Most Americans know that todays budget deficit was caused primarily by two needless wars (at least one based largely on false information), and huge tax cuts during the Bush Presidency all put on our nations credit card. It is also caused by historically low U.S. tax rates for high-income Americans and corporations. It was certainly not caused by Social Security!
Heres something to consider, which most Americans are aware of and Im sure you are too Mr. President: Income tax rates for the wealthiest Americans is now lower than it has ever been (at least since the 1940s):
And the effective U.S. corporate tax rate is also lower than it has been since at least the 1940s and probably lower than ever in our nations history:
Dont look now Mr. President but in addition to that ocean of red ink George W. Bush plunged America into, it also appears that we have a REVENUE problem. And Social Security hasnt had a damn thing to do with any of it.
What happens when the U.S. government is not bringing in enough revenue? One of two things: the difference gets added to the debt / deficit or taxpayers must pay more in taxes to increase revenue.
Remember that stuff Bill Clinton called arithmetic? Well there it is. And remember that nice surplus President Clinton left in our budget? It was immediately squandered by George W. Bush and turned instead into a sea of red ink which you now want to cut Social Security to help pay for when Social Security isnt even the problem!
In the past 10-15 years, that lost revenue from these historically low tax rates has simply been put on the nations credit card. That, or the middle class, poor and seniors have been asked to make up the difference. The former is irresponsible and the later is grossly unfair.
It is immoral and unconscionable to allow the wealthiest Americans to continue paying lower (or even no) taxes while the middle class makes up the difference in lost revenue by paying more and then to subsequently tell those same middle class Americans you are going to cut their retirement savings accounts to help pay for those lower taxes for the wealthiest on top of it all. Talk about adding insult to injury.
It is also immoral, unconscionable and grossly unfair that the largest corporations in the U.S. enjoy bottomless government bailouts, endless government subsidies, and copious tax breaks, (many pay no taxes at all on their vast profits) while the middle class, poor, and our nations seniors are forced to make up the difference in lost revenue out of their shallow pockets instead and then are further told that the benefits from the retirement program they paid into all their lives will be cut too.
After all we couldnt bother Exxon-Mobil, the Koch Brothers or Goldman Sachs and its Mr. Blankfein to pay taxes on their enormous income and profits for once, could we (sarcasm)? Actually, we really should, but these entities own too many congresspeople and it seems the weaselly and unelected Mr. Grover Norquist somehow had too many congressmens family jewels in his personal vice-grip for that to happen.
Social Security is not an entitlement and it is not welfare. It is a retirement program that Americans paid into all their lives and it should not be looted or cut so that the wealthiest Americans can buy more mansions as Mr. Blankfein of Goldman Sachs recently has, all while Blankfein was telling seniors and the rest of Americans that they should expect less (so he can continue to have more for himself even after taxpayers bailed out Mr. Blankfein and his Wall St. friends when they crashed the economy in 2008).
Greed has no limits, does it? But it can, and in a civil, moral and for that matter sustainably functioning society, it damn well should!
Shame on you President Obama for supporting any cuts to Social Security! This is not why Americans voted for you and you will lose their support on this and many other issues going forward if you support these cuts. You must withdraw your support for any Social Security cuts NOW, including Chained CPI.
I can assure you Mr. President that even though you handily won re-election, you do NOT have the political capital to mess with our Social Security in the form of any kind of cuts. Not now. Not ever.
Best regards,
Your employer (One of) The American People
Got a minute? Call the White House at 202-456-1111 and call your Representative at (202) 224-3121. Tell them NO cuts to Social Security because it does not add one cent to the deficit!
© 2012 Seven Bowie
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NOTE: This letter was duly IGNORED by President Obama. No response -- other than to propose - again - a "compromise" with Republicans that INCLUDED this goddamned "Chained CPI"
JoeOtterbein
(7,700 posts)Dear President Obama,
As a contributor and volunteer for both of your elections, I feel I need to be honest and blunt about my feelings about your plans to slow/cut increases in future Social Security payments.
I know you are a compassionate and intelligent politician so it is difficult for me to believe you are proposing such a heartless, and politically stupid, idea.
First, you need to fire any advisor who promoted the idea. Next, you need to withdraw the proposal before the GOP wins the 2014 elections by claiming you cut Social Security.
Thanks,
Your loyal supporter,
Joe Otterbein
senseandsensibility
(17,026 posts)Hope someone reads it.
JoeOtterbein
(7,700 posts)...I clicked the box on the Whitehouse web-site to get a reply. If I'm lucky, maybe I'll get a form-mail.
I wish I still believed it would make a difference.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)russspeakeasy
(6,539 posts)Perhaps over done.
Probably on somebody's watch list.
cuncator
(28 posts)... with so many of us probably on watch lists they'll have to hire more people for DHS. We're job creators!
As Homer Simpson might say, "Oh, by the way, I was being sarcastic!"
Anyway, done and submitted as well. Here's to hoping rational heads prevail.
FogerRox
(13,211 posts)by using the Chained CPI to adjust Fed poverty levels and income tax brackets.
Just thought you should know, the deficit reduction has nothing to do with SS, and everything to do with these programs being cut.
OregonBlue
(7,754 posts)trueblue2007
(17,217 posts)nruthie
(466 posts)and they frankly do not give a damn what we think.