Chris and Rachel let us down tonight

[dsc]

The chained CPI was big news and deserved time. It was one of the most important stories of the day. It pretty much got none on either show. They have valuable real estate. If the chained cpi isn't covered by them, it won't be covered at all.

[still_one]

1. AARP is covering it, and against it also. As far as it not being covered, wait tell next week

[HiPointDem]

2. does aarp have a tv show now? who knew?

actually, rachel etc. often somehow fail to cover important stories. usually those important stories are stories the establishment doesn't want covered, which shows you how much use rachel etc are.

[still_one]

4. no, but they are a huge lobbying group for seniors. In addition, I said I suspect Rachel will be

covering it next week.

Fridays are not good days for major stories, that is why politicians through out troublesome things on Friday, hoping they will get lost by Monday

This won't go away

[HiPointDem]

7. maddow et al have TV shows -- media. AARP doesn't get the same eyes. I don't know why

you'd compare them.

AARP's media outlet is its magazine, which is for seniors. younger people don't read it.

[Bluenorthwest]

12. Maddow has a cable commentary show luck to see 2.5 million viewers

AARP has 38 million members. To call those cable niche chatter shows 'tv shows' is technically true but in terms of audience size those cable niches have tiny viewership compared to actual TV news or even to reruns of Tyler Perry's House of Payne.

[HiPointDem]

41. maddow is one of the few shows on the air that presents any kind of 'left' viewpoint at all,

however watered down. it's one of the places left-leaning politically active people go and has a younger demographic than aarp.

yet maddow can't cover this issue.

[bonnieS]

15. Why Cenk Left

He would not agree not to criticize Obama. Rachel covers a lot of women's issues and gay issues and is very good on that. She does not touch Obama's worst policies unless she is explaining them in the light of something bad a Republican did. She will cover the CPI scandal now that Boehner has turned down the budget out of hand. Chris Matthews meanwhile had on Gene Sperling, Obama's economic advisor, and both crowed over the bold move of inserting chained CPI and means testing of Medicare in the budget. So brave of Obama to go after the real problems, they asserted, while furthering the causes of jobs and strengthening the middle class.

Ed would have been outraged. One reason he was probably moved to No Man's Land.

I have signed many petitions, called my Congressman and the White House. If millions of us do the same MAYBE Obama will care.

[amandabeech]

21. Sperling is a complete tool.

He'll be at Goldmine Sachs one second after he leaves the administration.

Chrissy has plenty of money, and he doesn't hang with anyone who doesn't.

What does he really care?

I used to like the guy, but watching him now is a complete waste of time.

[JI7]

3. this is why Ed's show was important

why do you think the working class guy who help bring down romney with that tape decided to go on Ed's show

[grasswire]

5. ^^^^^^ nt

[darkangel218]

11. +1

[OhioChick]

17. +2 n/t

[bbgrunt]

6. well, Ed covered it on his radio show.....only newspeak is allowed on tv

[PinkFloyd]

8. I felt the same way.

Right now, as a progressive I feel sold out by so many people on the left who I had so much admiration and respect for because of this. In fact, even earlier today I found the HP seem to bury the story down their page a bit in favor of other important but less important stories. IMHO, it wasn't one of the most important stories, it was THE most important story--a Democratic president presents a budget that cuts SS and as an extra bonus, gives very limited in revenue, especially where the wealthy are concerned. I'm sure I could be more disheartened and disappointed politically...but I don't know how.

[brush]

38. I'm in line with your thinking on this . . .

. . . but, "New Flash", HP is no longer progressive. That changed with the big merger with AOL that allowed Arriana to rake in millions while many of the unpaid and barely paid toilers who helped build that site over the years did went uncompensated for their hard work.

[lamp_shade]

9. Speak for yourself. They didn't let me down. Great shows... both. n/t

[dsc]

18. Can you really defend Chris spending over a third of his program

on the plan b decision and Obama calling AG Harris the best looking AG? His internet video segment took us to the halfway point. Really? That is a good show on a day where it is announced SS cuts were proposed by a Democratic President. I will give Rachel credit for covering guns and state level GOP which are important things.

[Logical]

22. WTF? Who else would the OP be speaking for? LOL, get a grip. n-t

[Buzz Clik]

29. +1

[graham4anything]

10. I only watch Al Sharpton, he never let's me down. Rachel lost me after first debate.

But 32 different threads right here discussed it, so probably the people interested in it heard about it.

[onpatrol98]

13. I think most have good days and bad

I don't watch Al EVER!

I've thought him camera hungry for years, basically willing to go anywhere, do anything, and say anything for a few seconds in front on any available camera. But, the final straw for me was Dunbar Village in Florida. He decided to ride in to save several young rapists who actually forced the nigerian womans son, I think an 11 year old, to have sex with his mother. Then they poured gasoline on the family and attempted to burn them alive. Just sitting here thinking about Mr. Al makes me want to throw up. At some point he realized he had chased one camera too many and slinked out of town. I remembered wondering if he had lost his mind at the time. The things these young men did to this young family is the stuff of your worst nightmares. But, there Al was, bright as day, talking points ready. Clueless.

Me personally, I have no problem if others watch him. In solidarity with that mother and son that Al stepped on to find a camera, I shall not. I find his presence on MSNBC one of their few stains, and proof there isn't much they won't do to pull in a few eyeballs.

[SoCalDem]

27. His linguistic gymnastics make my brain hurt

He's always been a camera fan. I hoped he would take more time learning how to pronounce his guests' names and how to read a teleprompter, but so far he has not ..

I still watch occasionally, but I'd rather have Ed back

[dsc]

16. we don't have millions of members

btw Rachel was right about the first debate, he was bad.

[brush]

40. Wrong

He only "lost" the first debate if lying a mile a minute and changing everything you said before in the campaign is what you call "winning" a debate. IMO Rachel and Tweety et al. were wrong to go there in concert with FOX and allow Romney's shenanigans to be declared a win.

[Logical]

23. Obama lost the first debate badly. And even he knew it. n-t

[graham4anything]

24. He roped the dopes, as Al and Dennis Hasbert and G4A said at the time.

He proverbally got Mitt to unleash his entire load of bullcrap and then was shooting empty after that.

That is the beauty of the rope-a-dope.

[Logical]

25. LOL, sure he did. That is why he dropped in the polls. You spin like the GOP does. You....

must be one of those 3-D Chess believers also.

[graham4anything]

26. 10 steps ahead. 3 steps was so Bush41 and Bush43. Obama3.3333 more

There was no drop in the polls, unless you believe the fake rightwing ones that were reported the day before saying what happened the day after.

Electoral-Vote.com never had Mitt anywhere near the lead in the electoral college, and the popular vote don't matter.
President Obama won a landslide victory in 2012 and it happened the day of inauguration 2009.
There was never any doubt it would be a landslide, though the repubs thought so.

Same as HIllary is going to win over 450 electoral votes in 2016, and many more in 2020.

BTW, if everyone pays 5 bucks less for DEFGHIJ
then if they pay 2 bucks more for ABC
they are now 3 bucks ahead, not behind.

[Logical]

32. Wow, denial. Even lifelong Dems I watched the debate with said Obama was terrible. But....

he kicked ass in the next two. He learned his lesson.

[graham4anything]

33. People thought Ali was getting his ass kicked the first few rounds too. Same in Rocky4

[Logical]

34. Wow, maybe worse analogy this year. n-t

[graham4anything]

37. Ali invented the rope-a-dope therefore using Ali in an analogy is the only usage

[brush]

39. Do not agree

He only "lost" the first debate if lying a mile a minute and changing everything you said before in the campaign is what you call "winning" a debate. IMO Rachel and Tweety et al. were wrong to go there in concert with FOX and allow Romney's shenanigans to be declared a win.

[Octafish]

14. ...and then I realized all was not as it seemed to be.

ComcastMSNBC has an agenda radically different from that of a journalist. Corporate McPravda advance first and foremost the interests of their owners.

[KoKo]

19. Maybe the Demographic for Rachel and Chris is too young

to bring in ratings for topic like Social Security. It's about "Demographics" (the 18-49 year old "consumers&quot that Corporations care about. Also, many of the younger Obama supporters are "Third Way" and SS and reforms to Medicare, Medicaid, Education are something they believe in. Not saying that's true of Rachel or Chris...but, that their audience is that demographic.

[David Zephyr]

20. Hmm..

Interesting observation.

[Buzz Clik]

28. Oh, well. Next time their producers will call you for a checklist of topics.

You don't get enough chained CPI hysteria at DU that you want to watch it on TV full time, too.

[dsc]

30. yeah silly me I think the President, who has served not one nano second in the armed forces,

proposing a cut in the benefits for those who got injured fighting in Afghanistan, while not asking for so much as a dime from those who take the carried interest tax deduction, merits being covered on a liberal network.

[TeamPooka]

31. let's see what they talk about on Monday. I've got a feeling you'll see your coverage then. nt

[stevenleser]

35. I realize I am small potatoes compared to Chris and Rachel at this point but I will be naming Obama

to the hall of shame on my show tomorrow and Monday as a result of the proposed Social Security and Medicare cuts.

I have said from the beginning that this would be unacceptable to me.

[dsc]

36. good for you

they should have you on tv too.