Chris Hayes opening tonight with coverage of the Plan B decision.

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It's worth watching on the re-run, both for his description of "regular politics" versus "vagina politics" and to see his discussion panel -- all female. (Guess he didn't know he was supposed to do it the way Congress does. )

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1. I turned him off.

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2. Then you missed a good segment (with the exception of one panelist, who was an idiot). n/t

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3. I can't watch All In with Chris Hayes

The mandatory hand/arm flailing is out out control and somebody is going to get hurt.
And it's so damn manufactured.

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4. Nah, he just talks with his hands. I've known people like that.

Now he's talking about how the "disability is the new welfare" meme "jumped the species barrier" from the Drudge Report to NPR.

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5. Basically saying the meme that people are scamming SSI is totally bogus.

Fraud estimated at 1%.

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6. But when 100% of the guests also do it. Come on, it's choreographed.

You can even see them get their cue.

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7. And yet, I'm looking at three guests right now, and only one of them is moving her hands

and it's not wild gesticulating.

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8. Just observe and get back with me someday.

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9. I agree, When he was just a guest on Rachel's show he was

very good. Very knowledgeable and easy to listen to.
His weekend shows were hard for me to watch too.
I tried AGAIN tonight. He's like the Energizer bunny
on crack. He opened with 11 yr. olds capable of having
babies and otc drugs, etc. Just wasn't what I wanted to
listen to. Of course, even Rachel can get on my nerves.
It's her delivery....give me some more Lawrence O'Donnell.

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10. Lawrence O'Donnell and Martin Bashir rock. nt

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11. Yes! Two adults. nt

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12. That decision is actually a big deal.

The anti-abortion people have been fighting OTC "emergency" contraception for a long time. It bids fair to make them and their issue irrelevant by putting the issue squarely in the hands of the women in question.

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13. I can't honestly say whether my local pharmacy stocks Plan B or not.

I haven't noticed it as one of the items on the shelf behind the register; that seem to be mostly stuff for diabetics.

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14. Maybe, if you needed it, then you would know? nt

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15. I don't need the diabetic supplies, yet have noticed them many times.

If they stock Plan B, it's somewhere well out of sight.

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16. Right. Maybe if you needed it, you would have inquired about it?

Either diabetic supplies or birth control? I mean, I'm a guy, and I don't have diabetes, so I don't know what they do with either one. But if I needed them, then I would know exactly where they keep them, if they do, and what I have to do to get them.

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17. You know when you're going to need diabetic supplies.

You don't know when the condom's going to break. I think having Plan B openly visible on the shelves will encourage more women to pick up some, to have it on hand if they someday happen to need it. Having it tucked away out of sight means you'll have to either call the pharmacy and sit on hold or visit the store and stand in line, possible for multiple stores, just to see if they have it. Not a fun thing to do if you've got a limited time-window to take it.

Until this ruling, it's been a lot more hassle than was necessary, and not for any good reason.

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18. I quite agree.

I'd look into the shelf life of the product too, how long it stays effective, but it would certainly be wise to check into supply issues "pre-need", esp. if you live in a state where they consider it their duty to make it hard for you.