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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAre Democrats as likely to believe in conspiracy theories as Republicans?
That's the conventional wisdom. That both the left and right believe in conspiracy theories in roughly equal numbers. But a new study finds otherwise.
So what conspiracy theories do Democrats prefer over Republicans?
Democrats are more likely to believe the moon landing was faked, that President Bush misled the public about WMD in Iraq to promote the war, that the CIA was distributing crack cocaine in US inner cities in the 1980s, that Paul McCartney really is dead (seriously!?), and that the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks were allowed to happen.
Meanwhile, "Republicans are more likely to believe in aliens and in bigfoot, that aliens crashed at Roswell and shape-shifting reptiles rule our world, that Saddam Hussein played a role in 9/11 and a secretive power elite secret rules the world, that the government adds mind control messages to TV signals, sprays evil chemicals into the air, and fluoridates water for nefarious purposes, that bin Laden is alive and Oswald didnt act alone, that pharmaceutical companies invent new diseases to make money and vaccines cause autism. They also are more likely to think President Obama is the anti-Christ and global warming is a hoax."
More info and analysis here: http://scienceblogs.com/tfk/2013/04/04/vaccines-and-the-republican-war-on-science/
bowens43
(16,064 posts)MineralMan
(146,288 posts)unrepentant progress
(611 posts)And then saying, "See, what did I tell you? Londoners really are crazy!"?
MineralMan
(146,288 posts)A lot of people believe things I think are silly. It's their privilege, though. I'd mention religion, but I won't.
Marr
(20,317 posts)That's a fairly obvious, widely-accepted fact at this point.
Just because a certain group of people prefer not to recognize a provable fact does not make it a conspiracy theory. I can refuse to accept the existence of walruses if I like-- but no matter how many lunatics I convince to follow me, it doesn't change the fact that walruses are real.
unrepentant progress
(611 posts)In other words, was Bush just stupid, or was he being intentionally deceptive. I say both!
Marr
(20,317 posts)Counter evidence was hushed up, and claims that had been debunked were continuously repeated. Is it *possible* that Bush was so incredibly stupid and isolated that he didn't know that? I suppose anything is possible, but it certainly doesn't rise to the level of making the apparent fact a "conspiracy theory".
Might as well call the idea of Hitler being an anti-semite a conspiracy theory, because he was so stupid that he actually thought the concentration camps were fun water parks for his Jewish pals.
gcomeau
(5,764 posts)"that President Bush misled the public about WMD in Iraq to promote the war,"
That's reached the level of established historical fact at this point. How the hell is that on the list of "conspiracy theories"?
Comrade_McKenzie
(2,526 posts)Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)That they aren't lying to us. Are we to believe the Pentagon was just a target with no defense? No SAMS on the roof? No clear video of the attack? The Pentagon should have thousands of camera's, don't you think. But we only get ONE blurry video. But go ahead and call us weak minded.
I'm glad you would be able to convict men who have no control over defense methods at the Pentagon with a blurry video. The official story was written under the Bush administration. How can we trust ANYTHING from them. Bush and Cheney testify together. I guess that's good enough for you. Not for us weak minded though. We want ANSWERS, while you accept no answers.
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)and crow about how strong minded you are.
TygrBright
(20,759 posts)Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)That one IS true. WTF, there were no WMD's, and I knew that before we went in and I knew that from my couch. 9/11 is another story with me. Sorry I don't believe our Pentagon that spends billions of dollars on defense, but failed with 40 minutes notice to do ANYTHING.
And I think Big Foot is real. That film from 1969 was a female creature. Why would anyone make a costume with tits? And a human can't walk like that creature and keep their balance let alone walk over logs and rocks. And Paul McCartney is alive, it's too bad his music isn't anymore. LOL!
And I don't believe Oswald did anything, but that's me. I think Poppy Bush and LBJ played a big hand in JFK's demise. And space aliens could be true. I would prefer to believe in them than a mysterious "God".
Autumn
(45,066 posts)Democrats are more likely to believe the moon landing was faked,
No. the moon landing was real. I watched it and it was awesome.
that President Bush misled the public about WMD in Iraq to promote the war,
Hell yes he did
that the CIA was distributing crack cocaine in US inner cities in the 1980s,
No don't buy that one
that Paul McCartney really is dead (seriously!?),
Get real. John Lennon is dead and I still mourn him
and that the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks were allowed to happen.
Yes, this I believe.
Oh yeah, I don't believe Oswald acted alone and I don't believe Sadam had a damn thing to do with 9/11
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)And let's not even get started on Paul Wellstone and JFK Junior.
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)unrepentant progress
(611 posts)Everybody knows Ralph Nader followers are too dumb to vote for Democrats.
Autumn
(45,066 posts)when the votes were counted Al Gore won the election. Had the supreme court not stepped in and appointed Bush the votes would have been counted.
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)Nov. 2000 came a month before 12/12/2000
and even if the court said recount could continue-remember, the republicans in Florida said they would not accept it
Remember, the court's 1st of 2 was 7 to 2 to go back to Florida Court for FINAL rule
the 5 to 4 was that time ran out.
So following that scenerio, the electors still would have voted for Bush and Bush would have been seated
HOWEVER, the 4 electoral votes in New Hampshire threw the election.
Gore had 267. There was no way he would end up with more
NH would have been 271.
There was a chance Florida would not have counted at all, sending it to the house
However, Gore would not have been accepted as Legit and it would have been one term and out.
(Same as Bush would have been one term and out if not for 9-11.)
Nader's manta "Both are the same" was an outright lie he spoke.
How many millions stayed home because the believed their vote didn't matter?
There should be a law against third party presidential runs.
It should be the top 2 only in the general.
former9thward
(31,997 posts)Or is it another made up "fact"? BTW if you want to eliminate third parties you need to change the Constitution. Good luck with that.
Marr
(20,317 posts)A law against third party presidential runs. Because that would be a great response to the third party complaint that the two main parties are working for the same wealthy interests, and in cahoots with one another much more than they claim.
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)I would have voted for Ralph if he were a democratic candidate, it was not personal against him but his party spoiling things for America.
Anyone who voted for him or respected him after what he did deserves what they got.
Too bad the 99% of the country were forever ruined because of the 1% he is.
Did i hear someone say he speaks for free? When? When he is in the john?
Wish I could get 1/1000 of what he makes for bloviating for 28 minutes.
HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)spanone
(135,830 posts)pampango
(24,692 posts)45% to 26%."
Do you believe that a secretive power elite with a globalist agenda is conspiring to eventually rule the world through an authoritarian world government, or New World Order, or not?
'Very Liberal' : Yes - 12%, No - 69%;
'Somewhat Liberal' : Yes - 20%, No - 51%;
'Moderate': Yes - 23%, No - 56%;
'Somewhat Conservative' : Yes - 33%, No - 38%;
'Very Conservative' : Yes - 45%, No - 26%.Do you believe that global warming is a hoax or not?
'Very Liberal' : Yes - 14%, No - 79%;
'Somewhat Liberal' : Yes - 12%, No - 82%;
'Moderate': Yes - 22%, No - 67%;
'Somewhat Conservative' : Yes - 52%, No - 28%;
'Very Conservative' : Yes - 71%, No - 17%.
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_National_ConspiracyTheories_040213.pdf
Very interesting differences in the poll results on questions about the NWO and global warming. No group believes in the existence of a NWO conspiracy other than those who are 'very conservative' and only 'conservatives' (particularly 'very conservatives') believe that global warming is a hoax.
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Octafish
(55,745 posts)And when Democrats lead the plotters, the Gulf of Tonkin incident:
JFK Would NEVER Have Fallen for Phony INTEL!
hack89
(39,171 posts)zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)Remember, the question is "as likely".
Go to snopes and go look at their political pages. Look at the ratio of left/democratic leaning stories/legends/myths/theories. Now, count the number of RIGHT leaning ones. Not even CLOSE.
We aren't pure, but they're pure crazy.
hughee99
(16,113 posts)can be determined by the number of theories one believes. The repukes believe more of them because others have built their businesses around propagating them (they have a lot more to pick from). Yes, this happens on both sides but it's the difference between "mom and pop" on our side and walmart on theirs.
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)I kinda work with the theory that there are more right leaning theories because there is a larger "market" for them.
madrchsod
(58,162 posts)UnrepentantLiberal
(11,700 posts)I believe you were PPR'd and came back with curious choice of user names.
Saphire
(2,437 posts)pampango
(24,692 posts)Men : Yes - 35%, No - 44%
Women: Yes - 21%, No - 49%
Do you believe that aliens exist?
Men : Yes - 35%, No - 43%
Women: Yes - 22%, No - 51%.
For all the other questions the difference between men and women was less than 10%, though women seemed to generally be less receptive to conspiracy theories.
LeftishBrit
(41,205 posts)As regards the rest, I've been arguing for ages that the anti-modern medicine, anti-vaccination theories are much more a province of the right than the left, though some left-wingers share them. Most of the main purveyors of these theories are right-libertarian or worse sites that oppose government-provided healthcare in general: Mercola and Natural News; the AAPS; Ron Paul sites; even far-right racist sites like whale.to. In the UK, Melanie Phillips and the Daily Mail were main spreaders of Andrew Wakefield's claims about the MMR.
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)A few small fringe sections of the environmentalist movement are claiming that the IPCC and certain other organizations are purposefully and deliberately underestimating, or hiding, or otherwise lying about, the potential severity, and speed, of future climate change....most of these in this fringe movement are also, not surprisingly, New-Agey climate doomers(yes, you read this correctly).....represented by people such as David Wasdell, Guy McPherson, and others.
Quite a few on both the far right & far left believe that Zionists are controlling the U.S. government in the service of Israel.....or at least some parts of it.
And who could forget the classic far-right "The U.N. is a Commie plot", "Obama is a Kenyan Muslim terrorist", and "The Jews are going to destroy the white man!" conspiracies?
I could go on forever, really.....