Just how clueless about women does Matthews have to be before MSNBC fires his ass

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/04/chris-matthews-wife-beating_n_3013323.html

Chris Matthews wondered aloud on Wednesday whether or not "wife beating" was something that women "really worry about."

Matthews was speaking to fellow MSNBC host Andrea Mitchell—who, ironically, he called "one of the great feminists of our time"—about the appearance by Joe Biden at an event honoring women's advocates. Earlier, he played a clip of Biden condemning violence against women. When Mitchell brought Biden up again, Matthews jumped in.

"Joe Biden has street cred with these women," Mitchell said. "Is that close to the bone, the idea of wife beating, or beaters?" Matthews said.

"Well, that was part of it," Mitchell replied.

"Yeah, but is that something that women really worry about, men being brutal?" Matthews wondered. "Yes!" Mitchell said.

"At home?" Matthews continued. "In the home?"

The conversation then moved on, with nobody mentioning that Matthews had been seemingly confused about whether or not women are concerned with domestic violence.

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Imagine a GOP poll said this. We would be out for his head. This is hardly the first anti woman non sense Matthews has spouted. It won't be the last. Matthews is a woman hating nut.

[redqueen]

1. That doesn't sound like woman-hating... that sounds like ignorance.

Now if he'd spewed some crap about how women are really responsible because they 'know how to push buttons', thereby blaming them for causing men to be violent, that would be some woman-hating bullshit.

[ismnotwasm]

4. Yeah pretty dumbass. Oh, and 'Wife beating'?

That's an weird phrase, seeing how girl-friends, live in partners, also get abused. What about others? Or are only wives legitimate?

He is a strange person. I've never liked him and I never watch him.

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6. Here is one of several examples of his behavior on Hardball

http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh111407.shtml

In fairness, Boyle made a mistake on this show. A first-time guest, she tried to offer sensible commentary about Gore’s actual Cleveland speech, which she had actually witnessed. As noted above, when she said that Gore hadn’t seemed like a sci-fi monster—when she even tried to list the issues he had discussed—Boyle quickly found herself confronted with Matthews’ standard lunacy. Here’s a slightly fuller excerpt, so you can drink it in:

MATTHEWS: Mary Boyle, who ran for the Senate out there. Go ahead, Mary.

BOYLE: Listen, the vice president was in Cleveland today. I want to tell you just very briefly about it, because you probably would like covering the news.

MATTHEWS: What mode was he in? Was he in—was he in the quiet mode, or that sort of—

SCARBOROUGH: Did he scream?

MATTHEWS: —Clutch Cargo craziness he gets into, or was he—

BOYLE: No, no, but he was—

MATTHEWS: —or was he in the "Altered States" where the head starts to bubble? What state was he in today?

That was the way this sick, disturbed kook was covering your White House election.

At any rate, Boyle was on the wrong program. “I want to tell you just very briefly about [Gore’s speech],” she said, “because you probably would like covering the news.” Condescendingly saying, “Can I give you a chance here?” Matthews quickly took the discussion back into dumber waters. But when Boyle spoke up in a later segment, the full force of her host’s scorn was unleashed. He told his guest he would speak very slowly so she could get what he was saying:

MATTHEWS: Mary—Mary, let me explain—

BOYLE: OK, Chris.

MATTHEWS: —why we're doing this now.

BOYLE: All right.

MATTHEWS: The reason we're doing this now, to give you a little bit of history, Mary—

BOYLE: Yes.

MATTHEWS: And I say this to a fellow Irish-American. The reason I'm telling you this very clearly—I'm speaking like Al Gore now, very slowly—

BOYLE: Very slowly.

MATTHEWS: —like, like, like Mr. Rogers—

SUSAN MOLINARI: There's still a little too much passion there.

MATTHEWS (overt condescension): The reason we're doing this, Mary, is because in the last election, if only men had gotten to vote, we would have President Dole right now. Men voted for Dole, after running the—good guy, worst campaign in history. Men still hated Clinton so much, they voted for Dole.

Molinari seemed a bit uncomfortable with the mocking tone Matthews was extending toward Boyle. But any viewer of this program should have been found it quite familiar; Matthews had aimed his withering scorn at liberal women all through the year. He had trashed Elizabeth Holtzman in January when she dared make accurate statements about her host’s favorite Clinton-accuser, his dearest darling, the Faire Lady Willey. And he would trash Norah O’Donnell all through the year—back in the day when O’Donnell routinely spoke up to challenge her host’s inanity, before becoming the multimillionaire android she has agreed to perform as today. (At some point, she made a choice.) Just last week, we once again saw the snide condescension Matthews directs toward women who challenge him; he lectured Mika Brzezinki on the Morning Joe program, then directed his standard short fuse toward Chrystia Freeland on Hardball. (His pique toward Freeland was evident again Monday evening, when she dared suggest that journalists should avoid forcing “our own media interpretation” onto the Clinton-Obama race. By contrast, when Joe Klein said the same thing last night, Matthews took it like a man.) Indeed, anyone who watches this show has seen the endless gender disturbance which animates so much of Matthews’ conversation. Tomorrow, we’ll look in on more of that gender disturbance as we watch the way this unwell man trashed Wolf during November 1999—helping send Bush to the White House.

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[redqueen]

7. Jesus Christ.

Yeah, point taken.

smh (shaking my head)

[dogknob]

2. MSNBC is not on your side.

They are an integral part of the right-wing media monopoly. Their function is to depress the fuck out of progressives while pretending to be progressive.

[Cleita]

3. I've often wondered why Matthews and Joe Scar hang in there and I'm coming

to the conclusion that they have some kind of ownership in the company that protects them from being fired.

[Enrique]

5. and Mitchell answered emphatically "Yes"

and I'm sure a number of people were educated a bit because of that clueless question.

[Isoldeblue]

8. He should spend

a few days at a women's abuse shelter... I can't believe that he was that ignorant to question a subject that has tons of info and statistics easily available. It would at least be the professional thing to do, in being better prepared for his show.

[PatSeg]

9. Matthews can be so clueless

He tends to get really hyper like a small child and goes off on rants without thinking or listening. He appears to have no self-control whatsoever. That is why he so often cuts off his guests mid-sentence, he asks questions and then doesn't listen to the answer.

How he's been on TV for so many years is a mystery to me, as he does not know how to INTERVIEW only how to give monologues. Well not so good that either.

[Auntie Bush]

10. I disagree with your conclusion.

" Matthews is a woman hating nut." Not true!

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12. read post six

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13. Here is another example

More than three weeks into this consummate nonsense, the tiny crackpot was asking his wife if women think Gore is a wimp. (Needless to say, he constantly tickled the keys of the corps’ favorite meme—Al Gore doesn’t know who he is.) Throughout this period, he played carefully-chosen clips of Wolf’s 1997 appearance on Hardball, when she had discussed her superlative book, Promiscuities—a book about the unholy sexual demands placed on young women (and sometimes, on young men). When he did, he would play the reluctant prude, as in this stupid example:

MATTHEWS (11/4/99): OK. Let's get to the side—sidebar of this and—I'm a little queazy about this subject, but that makes it more, all the more interesting. Here's what Naomi Wolf apparently believes about young women and sex in today's society.

WOLF (videotape): Today, all girls growing up know that they're bombarded with what I was bombarded with—a culture that says, “Do it. Do it younger. Do it better. Compete with pornography. Compete with Penthouse.” But still says nothing about girl's natural, strong, confusing sexual feelings and still calls them “sluts” for even having them. What we're telling girls is that they should be sexually available, but not sexually in charge of themselves. And this leads to a disastrous situation.

MATTHEWS: Morgan Fairchild, this is right up your ally.

CADDELL: Wow!

FAIRCHILD: Oh, thank you, Chris.

MATTHEWS: I assume that what she's saying here—this is what the vice president is paying $15,000 a month to hear from that woman with all the hair.

http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh111507.shtml

[deutsey]

11. Oh, I suspect he can become even more clueless than he is on that...but just let him

start loudly and continuousally advocating anti-war or pro-union causes and his ass would be out on the pavement in no time.