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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 06:25 AM Apr 2013

Suddenly, NYPD Doesn’t Love Surveillance Anymore

http://www.alternet.org/suddenly-nypd-doesnt-love-surveillance-anymore




The Big Brother theory of surveillance goes something like this: pervasive snooping and monitoring shouldn’t frighten innocent people, it should only make lawbreakers nervous because they are the only ones with something to hide. Those who subscribe to this theory additionally argue that the widespread awareness of such surveillance creates a permanent preemptive deterrent to such lawbreaking ever happening in the first place.

I don’t personally agree that this logic is a convincing justification for the American Police State, and when I hear such arguments, I inevitably find myself confused by the contradiction of police-state proponents proposing to curtail freedom in order to protect it. But whether or not you subscribe to the police-state tautology, you have to admit there is more than a bit of hypocrisy at work when those who forward the Big Brother logic simultaneously insist such logic shouldn’t apply to them or the governmental agencies they oversee.

This contradiction is now taking center stage in New York City, as Mayor Michael Bloomberg and New York City police commissioner Raymond Kelly wage a scorched-earth campaign to prevent the public from being able to monitor its own police force. And in that crusade comes the frightening assumption about how the terms “safety” and “security” are now defined.

To appreciate the rank hypocrisy of Bloomberg and Kelly opposing the creation of an independent police monitor, remember that they are two of the faces of the modern American Police State — and two of the biggest proponents of 24/7 monitoring of citizens.
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Suddenly, NYPD Doesn’t Love Surveillance Anymore (Original Post) xchrom Apr 2013 OP
K&R woo me with science Apr 2013 #1
K&R beevul Apr 2013 #2
Good for us, good for them. geek tragedy Apr 2013 #3
Excellent article, Xchrom. 99Forever Apr 2013 #4
K&R Carolina Apr 2013 #5
There's plenty of people here that have the same double standard about surveillance. hobbit709 Apr 2013 #6
Yep! They get their panties in a wad every time someone dares criticize their beloved cops. n/t backscatter712 Apr 2013 #7
This is easy, peasy to fix. They just make the videos private for their eyes only. rhett o rick Apr 2013 #8
I find an alarming number of people sarisataka Apr 2013 #9
Freedom for some means having someone tell them how to be and Zorra Apr 2013 #11
It all depends on who is being watched and who gets to be the voyeur. nt bemildred Apr 2013 #10

sarisataka

(18,654 posts)
9. I find an alarming number of people
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 11:57 AM
Apr 2013

who claim to be progressive are happy with the idea and actively promote an authoritarian police state with constant monitoring and draconian punishments. Unfortunately those who do see no hypocrisy as they wholeheartedly believe their heroes only have our best interests in their thoughts. To their thought, we will be better off allowing the elites to rule us.

A gilded cage is still a cage.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
11. Freedom for some means having someone tell them how to be and
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 12:08 PM
Apr 2013

what to do. Otherwise, they'd get confused and lost.


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