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Get your Reagan right… (Original Post) MrScorpio Apr 2013 OP
He is an obnoxious GOP myth Isoldeblue Apr 2013 #1
Here here! Phlem Apr 2013 #2
Reagan gave us senile guys wandering around talking to themselves... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #8
Oh there's a special place in the deepest depths of hell reserved for Reagan and the BFEE. Initech Apr 2013 #14
He's the ass responsible for HMOs and PPOs. nt Xipe Totec Apr 2013 #3
As gov of Ca, he once said that taxes should hurt. Next year someone found out that he demosincebirth Apr 2013 #4
"We believe it's wrong. We condemn it. Nye Bevan Apr 2013 #5
Thanks for this info PennsylvaniaMatt Apr 2013 #7
Congress passed sanctions against South Africa as well as did the UN, Reagan opposed both MrScorpio Apr 2013 #9
"Our aim cannot be to punish South Africa with economic sanctions that would injure the very people Nye Bevan Apr 2013 #11
Reagan's rhetoric was lip service at best… MrScorpio Apr 2013 #12
The Teflon Ron rurallib Apr 2013 #6
and he was an asshole who closed mental health clinics/hospitals..and snooper2 Apr 2013 #10
He had simple solutions for simple minds. gtar100 Apr 2013 #13
God, I hate that ugly fucker. Zoeisright Apr 2013 #15
Some of the worst of the GOP were/are former Democrats. N/T 4bucksagallon Apr 2013 #16
A lot of them were/are Dixiecrats… MrScorpio Apr 2013 #18
i really disliked the feeling while he was the president...royalty bullshit spanone Apr 2013 #17
He also made commercials against medicare, something about the slippery slope to Communism mountain grammy Apr 2013 #19

Isoldeblue

(1,135 posts)
1. He is an obnoxious GOP myth
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 09:07 PM
Apr 2013

I remember Regannomics and the losses to our social programs. I had a friend who used our local detox occasionally for his problem drinking. He told me that they used to give him Gator-aid to drink, to hydrate and replace minerals, but then regannomics came into play, and it was no longer available. Eventually the rehab centers and state hospitals closed and our streets began filling with poor homeless, people who were patients there.
I would venture to say that the real declining demise of our society began with the f'in gipper....

I hope he's rotting in an appropriate place.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
8. Reagan gave us senile guys wandering around talking to themselves...
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 10:34 PM
Apr 2013

He figured if he could do it and be president,....well....

demosincebirth

(12,537 posts)
4. As gov of Ca, he once said that taxes should hurt. Next year someone found out that he
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 09:47 PM
Apr 2013

didn't pay any taxes. No big deal, we still re elected him for a second term.

PennsylvaniaMatt

(966 posts)
7. Thanks for this info
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 10:12 PM
Apr 2013

We are Democrats - facts are our friends! For as bad as Reagan was, we shouldn't throw out accusations like he "supported apartheid" that are not based in fact. Leave that to Republicans, we don't stoop to their level! There is PLENTY more to criticize Reagan on.

Let's start with how damaging his policies were to low-income Americans, as he GUTTED social programs to drastically increase the defense budget.

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
9. Congress passed sanctions against South Africa as well as did the UN, Reagan opposed both
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 10:52 PM
Apr 2013

He vetoed legislation that was overridden by Congress. He also opposed the divestiture efforts as well.

Instead, Reagan was a proponent of something called "Constructive Engagement," which pretty much delayed the process of ending Apartheid by whole years.

Reagan was no hero when it came to Apartheid. The World was engaged in one direction to remove it, he was in another.

In spite of this process later in his administration, he was an early supported of the regime as well.

http://www.salon.com/2011/02/05/ronald_reagan_apartheid_south_africa/

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
11. "Our aim cannot be to punish South Africa with economic sanctions that would injure the very people
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 11:07 PM
Apr 2013

we're trying to help".

Opposing sanctions against a country is not the same as supporting the regime in that country. Not everyone who opposed sanctions against Iraq was a supporter of Saddam.

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
12. Reagan's rhetoric was lip service at best…
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 11:18 PM
Apr 2013

Reagan believed that the white SA govt. was an ally against Communism on the African continent and felt that their removal and replacement with an ANC led government was problematic.

And why else were the UN sanctions imposed? Against the Apartheid regime which was running the country.

Your argument follows Reagan's own, one which delayed the removal of Apartheid from South Africa.

http://www.democracynow.org/2004/6/11/allied_with_apartheid_reagan_supported_racist

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
10. and he was an asshole who closed mental health clinics/hospitals..and
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 10:54 PM
Apr 2013

His wife scared the fuck out of millions of kids with her "Just Say No" ads...


I was one of them

mountain grammy

(26,620 posts)
19. He also made commercials against medicare, something about the slippery slope to Communism
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 11:43 PM
Apr 2013

What is it with Republicans and the slippery slope? Everything's a slippery slope to them. I'd like to send them all down the slippery slope in 2014!

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