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AsahinaKimi

(20,776 posts)
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 04:38 AM Mar 2013

Bieber to be prosecuted: Sherriff's department wants him to get help

Justin Bieber to be prosecuted? If the L.A. Country Sherriff's Department gets its way, they plan to push for Bieber to be prosecuted for spitting on his neighbor, according to a TMZ report on March 30.

The incident involved eyewitnesses claiming that Bieber spit on a neighbor in a "fit of anger," although Bieber denies the incident. This came about when the neighbor went to Bieber's house to complain about him allegedly driving his Ferrari at high speeds in the gated community, endangering the residents there.

Bieber allegedly flipped out, spit in the neighbor's face and then threatened to kill him. Bieber denied these allegations but there is now a chance for Bieber to be prosecuted as a landscaper working beside the house came forward and said he saw Bieber spit in the neighbor's face.

The victim was a 47-year-old father of three who lived there for 10 years and that makes sense when considering he was angry as the reckless driving. Now, the police want Bieber to be prosecuted because of his "disregard for the law," including speeding tickets, fights, reckless driving, drugs allegations and more.

more..http://www.examiner.com/article/bieber-to-be-prosecuted-sherriff-s-department-wants-him-to-get-help

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Bieber to be prosecuted: Sherriff's department wants him to get help (Original Post) AsahinaKimi Mar 2013 OP
Someone is trying to cash in. MrSlayer Mar 2013 #1
How much was the landscaper paid? That was my first thought. MADem Mar 2013 #2
I can imagine it. TexasTowelie Mar 2013 #4
sure. He's an entitled piece of crap cali Mar 2013 #8
yes. I saw video of him lunging at someone just a couple weeks ago. alphafemale Mar 2013 #9
Lunging at a paparazzo. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2013 #45
I'd guess his neighbors probably aren't in desparate need of money. (nt) nessa Mar 2013 #18
+1000, and lived there 10 years. n-t Logical Mar 2013 #22
LOL, really? A neighbor that has lived there 10 years sounds questionable to you? n-t Logical Mar 2013 #21
Extortion by whom? The neighbor who was spat on, or the landscaper, or both?.... OldDem2012 Mar 2013 #36
Who is trying to cash in? MineralMan Mar 2013 #40
I don't think so .... IngaBinga1 Mar 2013 #48
He is a rich little brat... awoke_in_2003 Mar 2013 #49
+1 darkangel218 Mar 2013 #55
Please, oh please! TexasTowelie Mar 2013 #3
would do a world of good quinnox Mar 2013 #5
He's well known to be a bratty douche. Frank Cannon Mar 2013 #38
One reason I stopped watching CSI and forgot why. LiberalFighter Apr 2013 #62
Justin should listen to his Uncle Charlie Mopar151 Mar 2013 #6
And his Uncle Sammy... pinboy3niner Mar 2013 #52
Good. eShirl Mar 2013 #7
Doubt he will last that long. LiberalFighter Apr 2013 #63
He thinks he's hip hop now UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #10
I hope he is not in a downward spiral. Sounds like he needs help more than prosecution - patricia92243 Mar 2013 #11
I think they are trying to ensure he gets the help he apparently needs madokie Mar 2013 #27
young guy bigtree Mar 2013 #12
Well--if he indeed spit in someones face... trumad Mar 2013 #13
no, but not that unusual bigtree Mar 2013 #14
Bull---Fucking---shit trumad Mar 2013 #15
definitely, not the worst bigtree Mar 2013 #17
Never had mine spit in either madokie Mar 2013 #29
I've known a few young men including my son and his friends and I've never seen it or heard of it... nessa Mar 2013 #16
it's happened in front of me enough in my lifetime for me to understand it bigtree Mar 2013 #23
whether it's unusual or not, it's unacceptable and even worse cali Mar 2013 #19
+1 Receiving no punishment only empowers these brats further. nt Comrade_McKenzie Mar 2013 #25
well, yeah, duh, I get that bigtree Mar 2013 #28
that just sounds delusional. cali Mar 2013 #41
I think you are just so insulting sometimes, for no damn good reason bigtree Mar 2013 #43
So you thoughts on a topic were called delusional? It's not as if someone spit in your face. Divernan Mar 2013 #57
OK, 54 years old, never saw had someone or knew a friend who spit on someone. n-t Logical Mar 2013 #26
52 here bigtree Mar 2013 #31
I never spit in my neighbors face at any age octothorpe Mar 2013 #34
heh bigtree Mar 2013 #35
If they could just get him to stop singing and put a bag over his head davidpdx Mar 2013 #20
Wealth corrupts, especially when wealthy at an early age... Comrade_McKenzie Mar 2013 #24
Typical victim of the media arc. bluedigger Mar 2013 #30
Beiber sounds like a spoiled pile of crap AndyA Mar 2013 #32
He sounds like a severely messed-up kid acting out in increasingly destructive ways. eShirl Mar 2013 #39
yeps! nt darkangel218 Mar 2013 #54
I'm afraid you're right Warpy Mar 2013 #56
This is what, Bieber's *third* public relations issue in as many months...? Earth_First Mar 2013 #33
Lindsey Lohan type meltdown in 5... 4... n/t Tempest Mar 2013 #37
Maybe they both should hookup. What could go wrong? L0oniX Mar 2013 #42
lol..if they hooked up... SummerSnow Mar 2013 #53
Justin Bieber getting in fights? With what-- house cats? Marr Mar 2013 #44
Jesus, everyone is so excited to jump on the most negative aspects of this. randome Mar 2013 #46
Ooh, the Bieber hate is strong. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2013 #47
I find it hard to develop any emotion over this one way or another Major Nikon Mar 2013 #58
Give a kid below the age of 25 tens of millions of dollars overnight & fame and adulation and there stevenleser Mar 2013 #50
Captain Obvious makes the scene on Post 50!!! joeunderdog Mar 2013 #61
Good. nt darkangel218 Mar 2013 #51
Roid rage. Seen it too many times. JanMichael Mar 2013 #59
He's lucky. rrneck Mar 2013 #60
I am just going to point out one thing dsc Apr 2013 #64
 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
1. Someone is trying to cash in.
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 04:42 AM
Mar 2013

Can you imagine this Beiber kid threatening to kill anyone? I might fall over with laughter. This smells like an extortion bid.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
2. How much was the landscaper paid? That was my first thought.
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 04:47 AM
Mar 2013

My second thought? How much more was he promised?

He'd better not have a cellphone that was pinging off the "wrong" tower at the time of the alleged incident!

They haven't managed to prosecute Lindsay Lohan effectively, what makes them think they'll be able to "nail" Hair Boy, there? No video, no case. There's motive for people to lie, the biggest motive being dough-re-mi!

TexasTowelie

(112,443 posts)
4. I can imagine it.
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 04:52 AM
Mar 2013

I see plenty of short punks making threats. He also has been showing off his abs and trying to beef up, so I wouldn't be surprised if he has an ego of being invincible.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
8. sure. He's an entitled piece of crap
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 06:52 AM
Mar 2013

`doesn't smell like extortion at all. Evidently there are lots of witnesses that he's raced his car at dangerous speeds in this neighborhood. Furthermore, it doesn't take much muscle to spit on someone.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
9. yes. I saw video of him lunging at someone just a couple weeks ago.
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 07:04 AM
Mar 2013

kid seems to be in melt down.

I wish him the best.

I hear he can sing a little.

OldDem2012

(3,526 posts)
36. Extortion by whom? The neighbor who was spat on, or the landscaper, or both?....
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 10:39 AM
Mar 2013

...Bieber lives in a gated community where all of the houses look like the house he bought:



....and if the landscaper works in that community, you can bet he's pulling in some pretty good change. It's extremely doubtful he wants to do anything that would jeopardize his stream of income.

MineralMan

(146,331 posts)
40. Who is trying to cash in?
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 12:01 PM
Mar 2013

The neighbor. I didn't see anything about a lawsuit. The Sheriff? How will he get any money from this?

Bieber is just another entitled celebrity. Who cares?

IngaBinga1

(1 post)
48. I don't think so ....
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 04:03 PM
Mar 2013

If this man lives in the same gated community as Bieber, I am sure he don't need Bieber's money. I would be horrified if a kid spit in my face just because I tried to tell him how to behave in society.
I feel that Bieber is our of control and needs some help.
Maybe Bieber should just follow the law and behave as (most) of the rest of us have to do. He always has an excuse of why he is driving so fast etc. I see a kid in trouble. The best thing is for him to get stopped before it is to late. Not everything is about money!

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
5. would do a world of good
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 05:34 AM
Mar 2013

the guy is out of control. Too much money, too many yes men around him. He throws fits like a spoiled child if he doesn't get everything he wants immediately. I heard a story about it.

Frank Cannon

(7,570 posts)
38. He's well known to be a bratty douche.
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 11:24 AM
Mar 2013

Word on the street is that he was supposed to have a recurring role on the TV show CSI, but his character was killed off quickly because no one associated with the show could stand to work with the little shit.

LiberalFighter

(51,094 posts)
62. One reason I stopped watching CSI and forgot why.
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 12:50 AM
Apr 2013

But there are other reasons. Mainly, it fails at reality. All ridiculous.

patricia92243

(12,601 posts)
11. I hope he is not in a downward spiral. Sounds like he needs help more than prosecution -
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 08:24 AM
Mar 2013

for now. If not helped, there will probably be prosecution in his future.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
27. I think they are trying to ensure he gets the help he apparently needs
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 09:39 AM
Mar 2013

ralph steadman's when you got them by the balls, their hearts and minds follow. paraphrasing, comes to mind.
there's a good chance he gained fame, and apparently let it go to his head, long before he gained knowledge.

bigtree

(86,005 posts)
12. young guy
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 08:38 AM
Mar 2013

. . . typical stuff.

Surprised at the comments which suggest his wealth and a sense of privilege brought this on. That says nothing of the millions of youth who have similar experiences and actions growing up. I've known much, much, worse.

He certainly doesn't deserve all of the crap from folks who know little else about him outside of press reports. Odds are very good that he'll learn and outgrow most of this aggressive behavior. He'll NEVER shed himself of opportunistic critics and accusers (hypocrites, most of them, imo), though. That's something he'll need to learn to cope with.

bigtree

(86,005 posts)
14. no, but not that unusual
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 09:08 AM
Mar 2013

. . . so as to make national news for anyone not a Beiber. He does need to understand that scrutiny goes with the territory. Can't be easy, though. We can't pretend that he's going to get an even break wherever he goes; nor should we assume he doesn't need one.

. . . but spitting on the person you're fighting? That's a youthful mistake . . . seen it dozens of times from youth pumped up with energy, insecurity, and frustration.

I'm definitely not a fan of sheriff-generated nonsense. You won't find me rooting for the young man getting caught up in the 'justice' system. Once they get ahold of you, they can't seem to let go, and for a young man, it could mean that he gets dragged down by court requirements long after this silly incident and the system actually inflates their paternalistic hold on him far beyond the time of the incident and the scope of the original offense. I've seen that dozens of times, as well. I'll be rooting for the young man, against any attempt by the fuzz to put their two cents in. hope he can pull it down and get himself in check.

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
15. Bull---Fucking---shit
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 09:11 AM
Mar 2013

I never spat in someones face---it is one of the worse things you could do to another human.

Those who do it---football payers, etc, are called out big time for doing it.

bigtree

(86,005 posts)
17. definitely, not the worst
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 09:18 AM
Mar 2013

. . . and, so what? You're the better person here. That's outstanding, trumad, but your life experience isn't some standard that I'm going to apply to the rest of the world of young men. Reality is, young men do sometimes resort to spitting in silly little spats. It's not unheard of, and certainly not the worst thing I can imagine him doing. Wrong as hell, yes, but hopefully he can find room to apologize and learn from his mistake. We just can't say from here how the spitting incident will be resolved.

I do think that racing cars in the neighborhood is pretty typical . . . I think that's what the police will focus on, though, not the alleged assault.

nessa

(317 posts)
16. I've known a few young men including my son and his friends and I've never seen it or heard of it...
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 09:17 AM
Mar 2013

happening among them. I teach in a public high school and I haven't seen it happen there either. Girls dumping milk on girls, maybe. Boys punching each other, but I haven't seen spitting. I don't think it's as common as you think.

bigtree

(86,005 posts)
23. it's happened in front of me enough in my lifetime for me to understand it
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 09:30 AM
Mar 2013

. . . as a frustrated act from an excited young man.

I had this one fellow spit on me while we were detained in a youth center together. It was in the middle of a little spat which had escalated into a little punching back and forth with a lot of yelling and stuff. It is what it is. It's wrong, unpleasant, humiliating, perhaps, I don't know. I can't speak for the one who got spit on. For me, it was certainly a low blow, but, in these spats among youth, there will sometimes be low blows. I think for those who don't really fight much. it may not be as apparent as it is to experienced folks, just how offensive and wrong spitting on someone may be. Things like this are what young folks are challenged to work out as they grow. I can understand that. I'll bet the older man who was the victim of that assault might just understand that, as well.

I think that the perspective of this case is magnified by the celebrity of Beiber. To me, it's just a case of a frustrated (and likely stressed) young man who acted thoughtlessly. I'm really not seeing how that is so unusual or newsworthy.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
19. whether it's unusual or not, it's unacceptable and even worse
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 09:21 AM
Mar 2013

is speeding in his ferrari in a residential neighborhood endangering kids. Youthful mistake? Maybe, but it's compounded by fame and money. there have been numerous stories lately about this kid spiraling out of control a la Lindsay Lohan.

bigtree

(86,005 posts)
28. well, yeah, duh, I get that
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 09:39 AM
Mar 2013

. . . and the Lohan thing has the same media hype attached to it that I despise. You really think you can know these people enough from opportunistic media reports to make these personal judgments? Well, that's your business. My experience is that it's a fools game to read too much into people we don't personally know from the outside.

Besides, outside of a few issues with court orders and an AUTO ACCIDENT. Lohan looks to be like the rest of us . . . in her case, just trying like hell to get an acting role and earn a living while working to satisfy what can be a frustrating justice system's demands and requirements. For me to try and judge all of that would be nonsense. I look for the best in these folks and hope for the same.

bigtree

(86,005 posts)
43. I think you are just so insulting sometimes, for no damn good reason
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 01:26 PM
Mar 2013

. . . you give such a denigrating comment about my personal perspective, yet you expect your own to be taken seriously. It's all I can do to keep you in my view right now. It's like you just can't help being offensive. You just don't realize how absolutely WRONG one can be from the distance that you post from. Amazing, really that you can be so arrogant about others; not politicians, or even celebrities, but the folks who make up this world you stand in judgment of on this message board.

Delusional? I'm not the one interpreting hyped media reports as reality. Face it, that really is a fool's errand.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
57. So you thoughts on a topic were called delusional? It's not as if someone spit in your face.
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 06:40 PM
Mar 2013

or used obscene language. I agree it is irrational - delusional if you will - to dismiss Lohan's severe drug and alcohol problems as you did. What Lohan and Bieber have in common is that they put the public at risk by driving recklessly.

bigtree

(86,005 posts)
31. 52 here
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 09:48 AM
Mar 2013

. . . so, go figure.

I did attend 3 different junior high schools and three different high schools. I also spent two separate months in a youth detention center and a six month incarceration at a youth 'forestry camp.' I've seen and experienced MANY pumped-up fights between insecure and frustrated young men.

I've also raised two boys into their thirties.

octothorpe

(962 posts)
34. I never spit in my neighbors face at any age
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 10:24 AM
Mar 2013

I also know many others who would have never behaved like that.

bigtree

(86,005 posts)
35. heh
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 10:37 AM
Mar 2013

. . . that's admirable. I certainly endorse that.

I've actually recalled a few spitting incidents in some detail as I've been reading this post today. I don't think they amounted to much, in the end. The guy (or gal) spitting is already pretty much defeated when they resort to this. It's an act that appears to be out of frustration, as much as it's appeared to me to be an act of contempt, in the several cases I've witnessed. It normally comes from a position of weakness. It's more of a pitiable act, than anything. I don't expect everyone to understand this or agree, I just have this perspective to offer to this discussion.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
20. If they could just get him to stop singing and put a bag over his head
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 09:26 AM
Mar 2013

Selena Gomez did the right thing kicking him to the curb.

 

Comrade_McKenzie

(2,526 posts)
24. Wealth corrupts, especially when wealthy at an early age...
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 09:32 AM
Mar 2013

It's sickening that he is only 19 and living in his own mansion.

Good luck to the Sheriff.

bluedigger

(17,087 posts)
30. Typical victim of the media arc.
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 09:42 AM
Mar 2013

Build them up into golden idols, then expose their feet of clay and cut them off at the knees. It's a Great Story! In a normal community Bieber would get a quiet warning from the local cops to cool it before somebody gets hurt, but not in LA, where the LA Sherriff's department is as publicity crazed as everyone else. I guess this makes them the good guys again, out there protecting and serving Johnny Public, at least until the next time they decide to beat or shoot him.

AndyA

(16,993 posts)
32. Beiber sounds like a spoiled pile of crap
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 10:09 AM
Mar 2013

He's been stopped for speeding before, so it would not surprise me he would do it in a gated neighborhood where the police aren't likely to be watching.

He's the male version of Lindsay Lohan, stay tuned for further developments...

eShirl

(18,504 posts)
39. He sounds like a severely messed-up kid acting out in increasingly destructive ways.
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 11:59 AM
Mar 2013

Hope he is about to get a loud enough wake-up call to snap out of it before it's too late (if that's still possible).

Warpy

(111,352 posts)
56. I'm afraid you're right
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 06:23 PM
Mar 2013

Something needs to bring him back down to earth--hard--and maybe this is it. If it turns into enough of a publicity disaster, maybe he'll be persuaded to get into rehab.

Or he'll end up in jail for a while, at least until he grows out of those raging teenage hormones.

He's in the beginning of a massive flameout the way he's going now.

Earth_First

(14,910 posts)
33. This is what, Bieber's *third* public relations issue in as many months...?
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 10:13 AM
Mar 2013

It seems that a pattern is developing here...

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
44. Justin Bieber getting in fights? With what-- house cats?
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 01:29 PM
Mar 2013

I find that hard to believe. If this guy ever got in a fight...



I think he'd be in a wheelchair today.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
46. Jesus, everyone is so excited to jump on the most negative aspects of this.
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 01:36 PM
Mar 2013

It's always fun to bash a celebrity, isn't it?

Most of you don't get it, do you? The sheriff is the stand-out guy in this. I applaud anyone who uses his or her law enforcement powers to make benign character judgments instead of robotically following the law, or, worse, to lazily ignore this because of the celebrity status.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
58. I find it hard to develop any emotion over this one way or another
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 06:47 PM
Mar 2013

But then I've never had much interest in "artists" who are making music that is created for, and marketed to, pre-pubescents.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
50. Give a kid below the age of 25 tens of millions of dollars overnight & fame and adulation and there
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 06:06 PM
Mar 2013

seems to be a strong chance of this kind of behavior manifesting itself.

joeunderdog

(2,563 posts)
61. Captain Obvious makes the scene on Post 50!!!
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 07:27 PM
Mar 2013

Better late than never, I guess. You just rendered future posts unnecessary.

Child Star screws up and becomes out of control
, story at 11.

JanMichael

(24,891 posts)
59. Roid rage. Seen it too many times.
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 06:52 PM
Mar 2013

He seems to be a nice kid, made positive comments on the Canadian health care system a while back. Then all of a sudden an ass hat. Totally a roid thing.

Probably needs a year in seclusion to clean up.

dsc

(52,166 posts)
64. I am just going to point out one thing
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 01:17 AM
Apr 2013

If Bieber were still in high school and spit on a freshman at his school to put him in his place or spat on a gay kid or just anyone just because, no one would be saying prosecute the man. I wonder what the difference is.

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