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shcrane71

(1,721 posts)
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 04:14 PM Feb 2012

Where are the world's female religious leaders?

This article focuses on fundamental Judaism and Islam, but other than Tammy Faye Baker, I can think of no other female Christian religious leader. I'm woefully ignorant on other religious faiths, and I can't think of any leading Buddhist or Hindu female religious leader either. Maybe Pagans are more inclusive of women in their leadership????

http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/273-40/9733-the-religious-rights-problem-with-women

[edited for grammar error as I'm a horrible proofreader]

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Where are the world's female religious leaders? (Original Post) shcrane71 Feb 2012 OP
There are lots of female regligious leaders, but they are only employed by Chorophyll Feb 2012 #1
A couple of the Zen centers around Mpls have hifiguy Feb 2012 #11
Religion discourages female initiative Chill Keney Feb 2012 #2
Is this inherent in religion or a consequence of patriarchy? JackRiddler Feb 2012 #5
Didn't religion spawn and enforce the patriarchy?? cliffordu Feb 2012 #6
I beg to differ... JackRiddler Feb 2012 #7
Ain't that the truth! nt shcrane71 Feb 2012 #26
There is a strong belief in many Conservative Christian sects MicaelS Feb 2012 #3
I've often heard Christian women say that they don't believe in women should be preachers. shcrane71 Feb 2012 #4
I did my whole master's thesis on 14:33b and where it goes in the text The Genealogist Feb 2012 #18
Fascinating... what grade did you get? n/t MicaelS Feb 2012 #19
I finished the degree program with a 4.0 The Genealogist Feb 2012 #23
Congratulations n/t MicaelS Feb 2012 #24
does Dr. Laura count ? there is that hugging "saint" or whatever among hindus JI7 Feb 2012 #8
Tons of female religious leaders in the Unitarian Universalist Church. avaistheone1 Feb 2012 #9
If I belonged to any religion, UU would be it. They rock so hard it's not funny. Poll_Blind Feb 2012 #10
Me too. avaistheone1 Feb 2012 #12
UUs worship the Giver of Life -- Manifestor_of_Light Feb 2012 #28
The arch bishop of the episcopal church USA is a woman xchrom Feb 2012 #13
Indeed: Dr. Katharine Jefferts Schori muriel_volestrangler Feb 2012 #17
+1 nt xchrom Feb 2012 #20
Thank You! shcrane71 Feb 2012 #27
Off the top of my head I can think of a few religions founded by women. white_wolf Feb 2012 #14
Mary Baker Eddy founded The Christian Scientists Brother Buzz Feb 2012 #15
Most religions are based around attempts to conserve standards centuries or millenia old. Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2012 #16
Quakers eShirl Feb 2012 #21
Maybe the reason they are missing them is that they are looking in the wrong place karynnj Feb 2012 #22
If you think you know Mother Teresa, you haven't read Hitchens. Manifestor_of_Light Feb 2012 #30
here is one- Bluerthanblue Feb 2012 #25
Thank You! I went through a stage where I read only female authors in order to balance out my shcrane71 Feb 2012 #29

Chorophyll

(5,179 posts)
1. There are lots of female regligious leaders, but they are only employed by
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 04:20 PM
Feb 2012

the most progressive churches and synagogues. Women have been rabbis in Reform synagogues for several decades. There are women ministers in the Episcopal, Presbyterian, and Congregational churches (and probably a few other churches as well.) Can't speak for anyone else, because I don't know. But in general, the more conservative the denomination, the less likely that there will be a woman in a position of power.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
11. A couple of the Zen centers around Mpls have
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 06:37 PM
Feb 2012

women in teaching and leadership roles. But that's Buddhism after all.

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
7. I beg to differ...
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 06:12 PM
Feb 2012

No major development in human history went unaccompanied by a religious shift of some kind, but whether or not there was ever a "matriarchy" (more or less a myth, or a question of definitions) there were ancient goddess religions that preceded the crop of androcentric "great religions" we have today.

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
3. There is a strong belief in many Conservative Christian sects
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 04:26 PM
Feb 2012

That the Bible states that women should be silent in the church. That has a lot to do with lack of female leaders in this sects.
[link:http://www.minthegap.com/2006/09/29/should-women-keep-silent-in-church/|
Should Women Keep Silent in Church?]

http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=1Cr&c=14#34

1Cr 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but [they are commanded] to be under obedience, as also saith the law.

1Cr 14:35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.


Correctly Interpreting 1 Corinthians 14:33b-35

shcrane71

(1,721 posts)
4. I've often heard Christian women say that they don't believe in women should be preachers.
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 04:57 PM
Feb 2012

Catholicism doesn't even ordain women as priests. I do hear that there are some special lay clergy for Catholic women.



The Genealogist

(4,723 posts)
18. I did my whole master's thesis on 14:33b and where it goes in the text
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 08:58 PM
Feb 2012

My conclusion was that 14:34-35 is very likely a later addition, very early in the history of the text, based on manuscript evidence and context.

The Genealogist

(4,723 posts)
23. I finished the degree program with a 4.0
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 09:35 PM
Feb 2012

It was suggested at one point by my thesis adviser and a few others that I see about getting it published. Not trying to brag, but it wasn't too terrible of a study. It was originally a paper did for a class, and I expanded it.

JI7

(89,252 posts)
8. does Dr. Laura count ? there is that hugging "saint" or whatever among hindus
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 06:22 PM
Feb 2012

i don't really consider any of these people to be "leaders" in a positive sense. but more like owners or ceo of a company.

that one lady who gives hugs and goes around the world. i think they have a lot of money. i find the whole thing creepy but a lot of people go there.

 

avaistheone1

(14,626 posts)
9. Tons of female religious leaders in the Unitarian Universalist Church.
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 06:24 PM
Feb 2012

Perhaps they even outnumber males at this point.

Poll_Blind

(23,864 posts)
10. If I belonged to any religion, UU would be it. They rock so hard it's not funny.
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 06:35 PM
Feb 2012

Once I was in a UU church and opened what I presume was a hymnal. Riffing through the pages, I came across a hymn, an ode to science and empirical thought.

Now that's the kind of religion I can go for!

PB

xchrom

(108,903 posts)
13. The arch bishop of the episcopal church USA is a woman
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 06:41 PM
Feb 2012

I think think the suffragan bishop is as well.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,322 posts)
17. Indeed: Dr. Katharine Jefferts Schori
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 08:16 PM
Feb 2012
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/15/women-religious-leaders_n_924807.html#s327351&title=Rev_Dr_Katharine

and she has a PhD in oceanography, not just theology. That's from a list, last year, of 10 women who are leaders in religion, but she's the one who stands out as a leader of an established hierarchy.

white_wolf

(6,238 posts)
14. Off the top of my head I can think of a few religions founded by women.
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 06:45 PM
Feb 2012

The Seventh Day Adventists were founded by Ellen G. White. The Christian Scientists were founded by a Mary Baker Eddy. There is a sect of Shintoism founded by a woman, but the name escapes me.

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
16. Most religions are based around attempts to conserve standards centuries or millenia old.
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 06:57 PM
Feb 2012

In those days very few women were leaders, and hence most religions try to perpetuate that.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
22. Maybe the reason they are missing them is that they are looking in the wrong place
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 09:13 PM
Feb 2012

Maybe they should look at Dorothy Day, who started the Catholic Workers program that still exists helping the poor in many countries. They could also have considered Mother Teresa.

In Judaism, they should have looked at the reconstructionist synagogues, where there are many influential women rabbis. Not to mention, if you consider the power of inspirational music in services, Debbie Friedman has written songs that I have heard in many Reform and reconstructionist services.

( A few years ago, the synagogue I belong to did not have a building and were guests in an Episcopal church. Our rabbi and the priest were both women)

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
30. If you think you know Mother Teresa, you haven't read Hitchens.
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 10:37 PM
Feb 2012

She did not help people or provide any medical care. She gave them a bed to die in, and that was all. Had millions of dollars in Swiss bank accts that never helped anybody, while she flew around the world in private jets and hung out with the rich and famous.

Mother Theresa's House of Illusions:
http://www.holysmoke.org/sdhok/shields.htm

shcrane71

(1,721 posts)
29. Thank You! I went through a stage where I read only female authors in order to balance out my
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 10:35 PM
Feb 2012

worldviews. I'm just coming to realize that my religious education has solely been come from a male paradigm.

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