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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSen Elizabeth Warren writes in email:
" By a unanimous 99-0 vote, the Senate passed a measure from Democratic Senator Sherrod Brown and Republican Senator David Vitter to eliminate the billions of dollars in subsidies that giant "too big to fail" banks receive through lower borrowing costs because of the implicit guarantee they will be bailed out by the government in a time of crisis."
I am suspicious. When Republicans agree it makes me very uneasy. It usually means that Democrats conceded. Maybe it's these words that bother me, " because of the implicit guarantee they will be bailed out by the government in a time of crisis." What kind of business are we running when there are "implicit" guarantees that will cost trillions? (rhetorical) It means we need to break up the banks.
On Edit: Will these "savings" (eliminated subsidies) show on the budget?
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)cbrer
(1,831 posts)This system is broken. Are we pumping medicine into a corpse?
MissMarple
(9,656 posts)Once you get it really clean, it starts to get dirty again. Keeping it cleaned up is a lot easier than trying to muck out a bunch of dreck only when you are expecting company.
cbrer
(1,831 posts)Than the reality I've faced in Kabul the last 2 years. The amazing part to me is that our media has been so effective at keeping people on their asses. Any one of a half dozen issues would have been enough to "stir the masses" in the past.
Who was it that said that government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil?
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)campaign money.
"Are we pumping medicine into a corpse?" Not a bad analogy. We are pumping money into a ponzi scheme to keep it running. They will keep raiding the middle class until we are broke. Actually by borrowing from China, Japan and Saudi Arabia, we are literally selling the country. The 1% dont care who owns the country. They will be comfortable anywhere.
dkf
(37,305 posts)If everyone didn't think they would be bailed out should they fail.
Dodd Frank has created a procedure to wind down big banks if they fail, but no one believes the Federal Government or the Federal Reserve will follow that procedure.
So this bill is supposed to convince people who lend to big banks that they should charge the banks more for their funding. But really it doesn't do anything and its not going to show up as a positive on the government's balance sheet.
On edit: this is the Senate telling the market they would let big banks fail, as the market calls BS.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)We certainly cant get the Ponzi scheme back in the jar. Sooner or later the system has to crash. Waiting until later is only burdening our children with the mess.
dkf
(37,305 posts)If you don't believe they will let it happen then that measure is also a fail.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)from the lower classes. They will continue to do this until the lower classes are broke and in debt.
NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)Actually, at this point, I just wish I could hope you were wrong.
AikidoSoul
(2,150 posts)You have obviously thought this through.... and see what is happening in Greece.
The banks have screwed us and the effects will continue for a very long time. Letting the banks fail will bring down many other businesses and investments, and we are just plain screwed no matter what we do or don't do.
Breaking them into smaller banks is essential... and "Too Big to Fail" should never be allowed to happen again.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)money and then crying because the poor depositors will get hurt so our "representatives" tell them not to worry the taxpayers will make sure the depositors dont lose. Well duh, the taxpayers and the depositors are the same people.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)KoKo
(84,711 posts)Truly!