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The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 04:12 PM Mar 2013

Ohio Anti-Gay Leader Encouraged Portman to Put Son in Ex-Gay Therapy, Vows to Fight His Reelection

Sen. Rob Portman has, unsurprisingly, been faced with a barrage of criticism from Religious Right groups since he announced that, inspired by his gay son, he had changed his mind to support marriage equality. But perhaps no one has been more upset with Portman than Ohio anti-gay leader Phil Burress of Citizens for Community Values. Last week, Burress called Portman “a very troubled man” who is “distraught over what’s happened to his son.”

On Wednesday, Burress took to “ex-gay” activist Michael Brown’s “Line of Fire” radio program to recount a conversation he had with Portman shortly before the senator’s announcement. Portman was “dejected” and “basically sad throughout the conversation,” Burress says. And while Burress had initially thought Portman was “looking for help for his son to walk away from the lifestyle” through "ex-gay" therapy, it eventually became “obvious that he was going to embrace his son’s behavior, which was devastating, because he just gives his son no chance whatsoever of understanding, you know, that he doesn’t have to be that way.”

Burress knows who to blame for this change of heart in father and son: Yale University, where the younger Portman is currently a freshman. At Yale, Burress says, Portman’s son was “probably associating with the other homosexual activists” and ultimately “forced his dad’s hand on this thing.”

Burress: He called me the night before he went public and told me that he was the first one that he wanted to call, and we shared ideas and thoughts. And when he first called me, I thought he was looking for help for his son to walk away from the lifestyle, because I’m pretty sure that he knows that I spent four and a half years on the board of an international organization helping people walk away. And he dropped the bomb on me by saying he was going to change his opinion, which I still today cannot believe that he did that because this is a principled issue and you just don’t turn your back on principled issues.


http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/ohio-anti-gay-leader-encouraged-portman-put-son-ex-gay-therapy-vows-fight-his-reelection
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Rex

(65,616 posts)
1. There are so many things I could point out as wrong with Burress's comments
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 04:20 PM
Mar 2013

that I don't know where to start. This man is the true definition of the word IDIOT. All I will say is that he seems to say the words 'principled issues' without knowing what they mean, as evidence by his own comments.

Kurovski

(34,655 posts)
9. If his principles are based on a phrase in Leviticus, then he's got a pile of squat for principles.
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 03:32 AM
Mar 2013

But I'm guessing.

socialindependocrat

(1,372 posts)
3. Burress probably promotes the use of leeches and exorcism - What a confused person.
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 04:25 PM
Mar 2013

These people are elected to office and have very little idea about
how the world works. They think they are leaders of the congress
and they gurgle forth this archaic bullshit!

If they ever realized how uneducated they are they'd probably go into
a depression and wither away.

How do these people go thru so many years and just deny their stupidity?

The world amazes me more and more every day...

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
5. Fuck every single reptilian piece of shit involved with "reparative therapy".
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 05:56 PM
Mar 2013

At best, "ex-gay" "therapy" is psychologically damaging, and a waste of time.

At their worst, the facilities used for this quackery are only slightly less brutal than Nazi concentration camps. The people who work those facilities should be hanged for crimes against humanity. Literally. Strung up until strangled. That's how bad they are.

marshall

(6,665 posts)
6. I don't even understand the logic of ex-gay therapy
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 06:08 PM
Mar 2013

What does it mean? If they're ex-gay, by whatever process that might ever occur, why the need for therapy to turn them straight?

Volaris

(10,274 posts)
8. no no no, you're misudnerstanding the terminology...
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 12:43 AM
Mar 2013

The "thearpy" is supposed to turn you INTO an ex-gay. It's quackery. The closest it comes to achieving real Psychology is the idea that a person can choose Celibacy (and I'm not even sure I believe that). I'm NOT gay, and I promise you, there is NOTHING EVER that could destroy my physical interest in, or my desire to engage with physically (and emotionaly) the opposite sex. Why should it be any different for someone attracted to the same sex?

Answer: it's not, and anyone who says otherwise, is SELLING something.

marshall

(6,665 posts)
10. I believe people can choose celibacy
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 07:48 AM
Mar 2013

It doesn't mean the drive or interest is gone, just that the will controls ones actions.

I could see how one might need therapy to bolster such a decision.

Volaris

(10,274 posts)
11. I'll accept that as a valid argument.
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 08:59 AM
Mar 2013

In which case, the "treatment" should be sold as Guided Celibacy Support Psychology (or something), and NOT as "we can cure your kid of The Gay."

If one is Celibate, it matters NOT who one WANTS to fuck, what matters in that case is that one is not fucking ANYTHING--gay men, straight women... chickens, robots, what have you .

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
12. "You just don’t turn your back on principled issues." It's more important not to turn your back on
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 09:02 AM
Mar 2013

your family, or turn your back to reality, when it comes down to it.

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
13. Phil, "Teh Gay" isn't "the common cold", you FUCK.
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 09:05 AM
Mar 2013

Otherwise, there could logically be "ex-straight" camps. Maybe someone should ask Phil-Do why there aren't . . . I'd love to hear his answer.

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