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(68,644 posts)Zax2me
(2,515 posts)Basically, the 1%ers....
JHB
(37,161 posts)...from in front of the register while ignoring big-ticket merchandise walking out the back (with the help of his trusted relative). He looks at his losses and hires security to keep an even closer eye on those damn kids (even if it intimidates the regular customers), still has losses, gets more security... rinse, repeat, until he's so frustrated he starts wearing teabags on his hat.
demwing
(16,916 posts)you've got the shopkeeper's significant other handing out free candy to poor kids?
Seems more progressive, waddya think?
JHB
(37,161 posts)...and I usually just end it at the "walking out the back" part, but I let myself go on here too.
The point is that the small stuff that they see with their own eyes (or hear from "trusted sources" gets their blood boiling, but when you get down to the real numbers you see that it's other paces where we really get hosed.
demwing
(16,916 posts)food stamps are not theft
JHB
(37,161 posts)...aren't particularly inclined to distinguish between true fraud and what are fungibility issues (e.g., using stamps for food and cash for a 6-papck of beer). They tend to regard any item they disapprove of as fraud: "if they have money to pay cash for nonessentials, then they have have money to be that much less on the public dole". It's endless because they'll always find something to complain and be judgmental about and feel perfectly justified in doing so because their tax money goes to it.
I want to point out that no matter what they are dickering over, it's shavings off a penny compared to what is being lost at the high end.
UTUSN
(70,725 posts)The younger one, in his 20s, is some kind of a military brat who has benefitted from lots of travel and exposure to multi-cultures, besides health care and other bennies, all at government expense. He has settled here in this high poverty area and constantly BARFS wingnut propaganda, with one of his main whines being poormouthing about how POOR he is but would NEVER take government "handouts" and how he habitually PEEPS into the shopping carts of people paying with food stamps. He "reports" on the radio all the ABUSE he sees, people buying one food item and getting HUNDREDS in cash in change. He has been reprimanded by cashiers for taking pictures of people in line.
NEVER mentions corporate welfare: Subsidies for "farming/not-farming" conglomerates, oil, Defense. CHEENEE, Darth Rums, BFEE.
Also, he complains about how the locals in social venues disdain him for being one of The Man, while he is SO POOR, probably poorer than THEY are!1 Well, one might understand their confusion given his constant BARFING of The Man's talking points.
Anyway, my bon mot in e-mails to him and his mentor: Peeper's poormouthing is like bringing coal to Newcastle, where "coal" is poverty and "Newcastle" is THIS REGION!1
OmahaBlueDog
(10,000 posts)Cleita
(75,480 posts)and returning Iraqi vets in wheel chairs to get a job!
jwirr
(39,215 posts)FLU.
abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)shenmue
(38,506 posts)WillyT
(72,631 posts)They_Live
(3,239 posts)oh wait, no. NO it isn't at all.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)with their price gouging when I had to fill my gas tank on my car. I wish that were a bumper sticker.
b_in_AK
(9 posts)If you want someone to blame for high gas prices, try speculators on Wall Street, or the Federal, State, and Local Governments who's combined taxes add up to well over $1.00 per gallon of gas, and even more for diesel. Why more for diesel? Because they know that most of the people who buy it don't have a choice, they need it to make a living.
uppityperson
(115,678 posts)Government makes far more from gas sales than all of the oil companies put together. Exxon, for example, made only seven cents per gallon of gasoline in 2011. That's a drop in the bucket compared to the nearly 50 cents per gallon that federal, state and local governments rake in on an average gallon of gas pumped in the U.S.
But FactCheck.org examined these claims and concluded that "the 7-cents-per-gallon figure grossly underestimates the industry's earnings. It includes only earnings from the sale of gasoline and not earnings on producing and selling crude oil. There are no independent figures on how much oil companies earn on a gallon of gasoline." According to Energy Information Administration economist Neal Davis, trying to determine such a figure would be "heroic at best" and "sadly misinformed ... at worst."
b_in_AK
(9 posts)But the point was that the oil companies don't bear as much responsibility as Wall Street speculators do. Hell, the oil companies know that the price being as high as it is hurts sales. They wou
iamthebandfanman
(8,127 posts)they put back into peoples pockets?
surely you agree they don't need subsidies anymore?
Cleita
(75,480 posts)I read somewhere, maybe here, that we should only be paying $2 a gallon because that's a good profit on top of the actual cost of producing the product. The rest is all Wall Street profit well and taxes I suppose.
iamthebandfanman
(8,127 posts)that's all
I can only imagine what suffering their stock holders and board members are going through.
http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2012/04/26/471469/exxon-takes-104-million-profits-per-day-so-far-in-2012-while-americans-are-stuck-with-a-higher-gas-bill/
teewrex
(96 posts)employee being on food stamps
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)Thank you.
I was laughing and shaking my head all at the same time.