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TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
Sat Mar 23, 2013, 08:31 PM Mar 2013

Maybe Its Time To Take Federal Funds From States Restricting Abortions.

Why not take federal funds for important projects states need like highways or some other activity if they restrict a federally legal activity. They won't learn unless you punish them. Maybe you could cut a military base or some other item. It is obvious that the GOP intends to enforce its will on people.

Remember what happened when certain states refused to obey the civil right laws. Right now we have states where a legal service women have a legal right to is denied for all practical purposes even in cases where a woman will lose her life if a medical condition cannot be addressed because an abortion is necessary.

If certain laws end being passed as are proposed right now many women will have to cross state lines to seek services that is legal. If they get a procedure in a way that is legal in one state and not another like an abortion without counseling are "probe" they could face arrest once they return to the state they legally reside.

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Maybe Its Time To Take Federal Funds From States Restricting Abortions. (Original Post) TheMastersNemesis Mar 2013 OP
Yeah, I think something should be done. Ilsa Mar 2013 #1
Right Now It Looks LIke Mississippi, Kansas, N. Dakota, & Texas Will Be The First States TheMastersNemesis Mar 2013 #2
I haven't heard of any laws making Ilsa Mar 2013 #3
What I Was Thinking Was That She Could Be Charged With Violating The Law That Established A TheMastersNemesis Mar 2013 #5
Oh, I see. Yes, the harassment Ilsa Mar 2013 #7
you missed a legislator in ohio proposing exactly that a few years ago then. a great deal of niyad Mar 2013 #11
Works for me. forestpath Mar 2013 #4
Good idea Kalidurga Mar 2013 #6
Long Overdue K&R nt TheBlackAdder Mar 2013 #8
Can someone explain why this was left for the states to decide? magellan Mar 2013 #9
I will never agree to subjecting EVERY citizen of a state to a punishment for some. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2013 #10
+1 onpatrol98 Mar 2013 #12

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
1. Yeah, I think something should be done.
Sat Mar 23, 2013, 08:48 PM
Mar 2013

Preferably, something that hurts financially, since these women will need to travel out of state for their procedures. Make it hurt.

 

TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
2. Right Now It Looks LIke Mississippi, Kansas, N. Dakota, & Texas Will Be The First States
Sat Mar 23, 2013, 08:58 PM
Mar 2013

where abortion will not be possible. And if women violate laws in their state they could be arrested and charged by an aggressive district attorney. And I know of nothing that would stop a law from prosecuting a citizen of one state who went to another state where a procedure is legal.

What if a woman went across state lines to a relatives place of residence and took the morning after pill. Or maybe they were visiting and had an affair and took such a pill? To think that such a situation would not happen is begging the question.

Trucking is a good example of how state laws that vary can trap a person. With trucking you might be a legal weight in one state for your length but be illegal in the next. When I ran trucks for a liquor company we ran into that situation all the time.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
3. I haven't heard of any laws making
Sat Mar 23, 2013, 09:07 PM
Mar 2013

getting an abortion illegal if the woman went to another state where she had a legal abortion.

I'm so tired of this fight. Abortion was legalized when I was in high school. I no longer have a need for contraception or birth control, but I'm willing to add my voice to keep abortion safe and legal for younger women.

 

TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
5. What I Was Thinking Was That She Could Be Charged With Violating The Law That Established A
Sat Mar 23, 2013, 09:16 PM
Mar 2013

procedure she avoided by going to another state. Like not having an ultra sound that would be required in her state of legal residence. These people are particularly determined to harass someone legally as punishment.

The abortion would be legal but how she got it could be not legal. For instance it is illegal past 6 weeks now in North Dakota. What if she was past 6 weeks and went to a state where she could get an abortion past six weeks or after detection of heartbeat. Technically speaking the legal authorities could charge her because it was after 6 weeks.

You cannot put anything past these people these days.

Now I know people argue all the time about hypotheticals. However, you can get caught by ignoring the "what if".

niyad

(113,508 posts)
11. you missed a legislator in ohio proposing exactly that a few years ago then. a great deal of
Sat Mar 23, 2013, 10:23 PM
Mar 2013

discussion here on DU about it --even jokes about whether women would have to take pregnancy tests entering and leaving the state. don't ever underestimate the level of hatred these people have for women's autonomy and reproductive freedom (or what is left of it these days)

magellan

(13,257 posts)
9. Can someone explain why this was left for the states to decide?
Sat Mar 23, 2013, 09:30 PM
Mar 2013

I'm not being snarky; I truly want to know. Why do states have the right to restrict abortion rights? Is the states rights crowd behind it? Is it merely that no one in government has had the cajones to make it a universal right, regardless of what state a woman lives in? Or is there something in Roe vs Wade that says the states retain the power to abrogate abortion rights?

The same thing bothers me about voting. I don't understand why individual states are permitted to mess with the laws, in effect restricting rights and making our voting system an ad hoc mess that can tampered with for political ends.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
10. I will never agree to subjecting EVERY citizen of a state to a punishment for some.
Sat Mar 23, 2013, 09:41 PM
Mar 2013

There are not red states and blue states, there are states that are varying shades of purple.

I don't know how many times this needs to be said.

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