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kpete

(71,997 posts)
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 08:03 AM Mar 2013

A Message to George W. Bush and Dick Cheney From a Dying Veteran


A Message to George W. Bush and Dick Cheney From a Dying Veteran

To: George W. Bush and Dick Cheney
From: Tomas Young

I write this letter on the 10th anniversary of the Iraq War on behalf of my fellow Iraq War veterans. I write this letter on behalf of the 4,488 soldiers and Marines who died in Iraq. I write this letter on behalf of the hundreds of thousands of veterans who have been wounded and on behalf of those whose wounds, physical and psychological, have destroyed their lives. I am one of those gravely wounded. I was paralyzed in an insurgent ambush in 2004 in Sadr City. My life is coming to an end. I am living under hospice care.

I write this letter on behalf of husbands and wives who have lost spouses, on behalf of children who have lost a parent, on behalf of the fathers and mothers who have lost sons and daughters and on behalf of those who care for the many thousands of my fellow veterans who have brain injuries. I write this letter on behalf of those veterans whose trauma and self-revulsion for what they have witnessed, endured and done in Iraq have led to suicide and on behalf of the active-duty soldiers and Marines who commit, on average, a suicide a day. I write this letter on behalf of the some 1 million Iraqi dead and on behalf of the countless Iraqi wounded. I write this letter on behalf of us all—the human detritus your war has left behind, those who will spend their lives in unending pain and grief.

You may evade justice but in our eyes you are each guilty of egregious war crimes, of plunder and, finally, of murder, including the murder of thousands of young Americans—my fellow veterans—whose future you stole.
I write this letter, my last letter, to you, Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney. I write not because I think you grasp the terrible human and moral consequences of your lies, manipulation and thirst for wealth and power. I write this letter because, before my own death, I want to make it clear that I, and hundreds of thousands of my fellow veterans, along with millions of my fellow citizens, along with hundreds of millions more in Iraq and the Middle East, know fully who you are and what you have done. You may evade justice but in our eyes you are each guilty of egregious war crimes, of plunder and, finally, of murder, including the murder of thousands of young Americans—my fellow veterans—whose future you stole.

Your positions of authority, your millions of dollars of personal wealth, your public relations consultants, your privilege and your power cannot mask the hollowness of your character. You sent us to fight and die in Iraq after you, Mr. Cheney, dodged the draft in Vietnam, and you, Mr. Bush, went AWOL from your National Guard unit. Your cowardice and selfishness were established decades ago. You were not willing to risk yourselves for our nation but you sent hundreds of thousands of young men and women to be sacrificed in a senseless war with no more thought than it takes to put out the garbage.

I joined the Army two days after the 9/11 attacks. I joined the Army because our country had been attacked. I wanted to strike back at those who had killed some 3,000 of my fellow citizens. I did not join the Army to go to Iraq, a country that had no part in the September 2001 attacks and did not pose a threat to its neighbors, much less to the United States. I did not join the Army to “liberate” Iraqis or to shut down mythical weapons-of-mass-destruction facilities or to implant what you cynically called “democracy” in Baghdad and the Middle East. I did not join the Army to rebuild Iraq, which at the time you told us could be paid for by Iraq’s oil revenues. Instead, this war has cost the United States over $3 trillion. I especially did not join the Army to carry out pre-emptive war. Pre-emptive war is illegal under international law. And as a soldier in Iraq I was, I now know, abetting your idiocy and your crimes. The Iraq War is the largest strategic blunder in U.S. history. It obliterated the balance of power in the Middle East. It installed a corrupt and brutal pro-Iranian government in Baghdad, one cemented in power through the use of torture, death squads and terror. And it has left Iran as the dominant force in the region. On every level—moral, strategic, military and economic—Iraq was a failure. And it was you, Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney, who started this war. It is you who should pay the consequences.

I would not be writing this letter if I had been wounded fighting in Afghanistan against those forces that carried out the attacks of 9/11. Had I been wounded there I would still be miserable because of my physical deterioration and imminent death, but I would at least have the comfort of knowing that my injuries were a consequence of my own decision to defend the country I love. I would not have to lie in my bed, my body filled with painkillers, my life ebbing away, and deal with the fact that hundreds of thousands of human beings, including children, including myself, were sacrificed by you for little more than the greed of oil companies, for your alliance with the oil sheiks in Saudi Arabia, and your insane visions of empire.

I have, like many other disabled veterans, suffered from the inadequate and often inept care provided by the Veterans Administration. I have, like many other disabled veterans, come to realize that our mental and physical wounds are of no interest to you, perhaps of no interest to any politician. We were used. We were betrayed. And we have been abandoned. You, Mr. Bush, make much pretense of being a Christian. But isn’t lying a sin? Isn’t murder a sin? Aren’t theft and selfish ambition sins? I am not a Christian. But I believe in the Christian ideal. I believe that what you do to the least of your brothers you finally do to yourself, to your own soul.

My day of reckoning is upon me. Yours will come. I hope you will be put on trial. But mostly I hope, for your sakes, that you find the moral courage to face what you have done to me and to many, many others who deserved to live. I hope that before your time on earth ends, as mine is now ending, you will find the strength of character to stand before the American public and the world, and in particular the Iraqi people, and beg for forgiveness.





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A Message to George W. Bush and Dick Cheney From a Dying Veteran (Original Post) kpete Mar 2013 OP
Truer Words Are Seldom Writ cantbeserious Mar 2013 #1
Powerful Aerows Mar 2013 #2
Your right. The heart and soul of all the republican party has left them after 9-11. No moral southernyankeebelle Mar 2013 #4
Dick Cheney chuckles and shrugs. Frank Cannon Mar 2013 #3
Just about the size of it. HughBeaumont Mar 2013 #6
Cheney said he'd do it again, too. deutsey Mar 2013 #19
So sad. Cheney, Frum, Wolfowitz, Copndi, Bush, Kristol....they don't really give a damn! nt kelliekat44 Mar 2013 #66
And will never face any consequences. tblue Mar 2013 #67
And WHY will they never face consequences? I will tell you... SylviaD Mar 2013 #89
MUST READ malaise Mar 2013 #5
I only wish the two war criminals it is addressed to would be forced to read it. beac Mar 2013 #39
Ditto malaise Mar 2013 #62
Kick Hissyspit Mar 2013 #7
First, find a Republican with morals 1Greensix Mar 2013 #8
Lincoln Chafee, tavalon Mar 2013 #58
Chafee left the republican party in 2009. He is an Independent who is leaning toward joining bluestate10 Mar 2013 #97
Whoops, day late and a dollar short tavalon Mar 2013 #109
k & r brer cat Mar 2013 #9
Wow. Just wow. skydive forever Mar 2013 #10
BIG K&R! Segami Mar 2013 #11
Godspeed, Tomas Young, to a far better place LiberalEsto Mar 2013 #12
Very powerful and moving SmittynMo Mar 2013 #13
Something about Bush makes me think he won't be able to shake this from his mind Ian_rd Mar 2013 #14
Ya gotta be kidding marions ghost Mar 2013 #20
Somenone who mocks the plea of a death row inmate deutsey Mar 2013 #26
For me personally, that "searching for WMD's under the couch" bit closeupready Mar 2013 #34
Disgusting hibbing Mar 2013 #63
He started out on his evil socialpathic personality at a very young age when he Auntie Bush Mar 2013 #86
Bush was a good guy???!? darkangel218 Mar 2013 #30
Bush, I think, has fetal alcohol syndrome and so tavalon Mar 2013 #60
Bush has shown sociopathic tendencies throughout his life. Arugula Latte Mar 2013 #84
k&r... spanone Mar 2013 #15
My heart to Thomas Young ReRe Mar 2013 #16
what a beautiful thought and tribute..... chillfactor Mar 2013 #105
You can burn one too... ReRe Mar 2013 #106
Message ldlew Mar 2013 #17
Welcome to DU, Idlew democrank Mar 2013 #25
Great letter. . . Borchkins Mar 2013 #18
They got away with it. The one stopping the prosecutions of these openly-admitted war criminals AnotherMcIntosh Mar 2013 #21
Vietnam Vet 1964-65 retired rooster Mar 2013 #22
Welcome to DU, rooster. democrank Mar 2013 #28
Send a copy to every single politician that voted to authorize the Iraq war Fumesucker Mar 2013 #23
^^^^ this magical thyme Mar 2013 #52
MUST READ. MUST SHARE. Godspeed Thomas Young...nt magical thyme Mar 2013 #55
A modest suggestion... ChazInAz Mar 2013 #76
I'm planning to mail a copy to my rep, Chellie Pingree magical thyme Mar 2013 #96
Bless you, Tomas Young democrank Mar 2013 #24
K&R, war criminals get a free pass. nt G_j Mar 2013 #27
I hope this letter will make it onto Fox News & Limbaugh & Hannity & O'Reilly Berlum Mar 2013 #29
A friend's son who did three tours in Iraq and has had brain cancer for ... Botany Mar 2013 #31
In the air, in the sand, who knows where else SaveAmerica Mar 2013 #41
Damnit I couldn't even read the whole thing. AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #32
Whew! RVN VET Mar 2013 #33
Thank you for this post. Just as the OP does it gets to the heart of exposing the heartless . nt brush Mar 2013 #48
So well said! juajen Mar 2013 #73
The power of propaganda! SCVDem Mar 2013 #35
I am Rec 100 on this 10th anniversary, a most sad milestone SaveAmerica Mar 2013 #36
We said "never again" after Vietnam.. but, hell, what else can we do with a huge military mountain grammy Mar 2013 #37
Tomas, thank you. Your words have touched me and are part of your legacy. sarchasm Mar 2013 #38
We need Rachel, Lawrence, (or Keith or Ed) to read this on the air..... joanbarnes Mar 2013 #40
A super idea! n/t Duval Mar 2013 #44
...and CNN. SoapBox Mar 2013 #49
A stunning indictment of not just The Bush Cabal... 99Forever Mar 2013 #42
I just want to add "WOW". russspeakeasy Mar 2013 #43
That is heart-wrenching. It is also sad that he still believes bread_and_roses Mar 2013 #45
I myself am torn about the Afghanistan war brush Mar 2013 #50
If they had had the courage to apologize, they would had had the courage to go to war! Dustlawyer Mar 2013 #46
When people stop joining the military to defend and protect these assholes, valerief Mar 2013 #47
Thanks for posting n/t Dpm12 Mar 2013 #51
A video made for all those hurt by this war: midnight Mar 2013 #53
Gigantic K & R !!! - Thank You For That !!! (((((((Tomas Young))))))) WillyT Mar 2013 #54
K&R ismnotwasm Mar 2013 #56
Unfortunately, moral courage are two words that will never be tavalon Mar 2013 #57
Don't ever forget that Jeb Bush was a member of the PNAC that got us into that war. olegramps Mar 2013 #59
They have no souls, Mr. Young. moondust Mar 2013 #61
incredibly powerful. Eloquent. BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2013 #64
do a mass mailing riverbendviewgal Mar 2013 #65
Thank you, Tomas Young, not only for your service to our country colorado_ufo Mar 2013 #68
I'm a veteran John2 Mar 2013 #74
A Powerful, heart-wrenching letter. Rider3 Mar 2013 #69
I hope the words in this letter finds and haunts Dubya and Cheney Apophis Mar 2013 #70
It's good this letter was made public. lpbk2713 Mar 2013 #71
SMH Mr Dixon Mar 2013 #72
God bless you, kPete mamayo Mar 2013 #75
Well written, Tomas. God bless you. You are going home and it will be a wonderful place with no pain judesedit Mar 2013 #77
Most important of all, thank you so much for your service to this country.You were trying to do the judesedit Mar 2013 #78
This Court of the Free Peoples polynomial Mar 2013 #79
I'm blown away! vlyons Mar 2013 #80
My heart is breaking! Wind Dancer Mar 2013 #81
The Smirking Chimp is too shallow to "get it" Jessy169 Mar 2013 #82
History will remember the BFEE for what it is, they cannot Rex Mar 2013 #83
Kicked and recommended Uncle Joe Mar 2013 #85
K&R Aristus Mar 2013 #87
cc: Jeb Bush; Poppy Bush; Ma Barker Bush. pacalo Mar 2013 #88
The Last Letter progressoid Mar 2013 #90
God speed to Tomas Young. May your journey across be peaceful. LoisB Mar 2013 #91
Dick Cheney response to Tomas Young: LeftCoastLarry Mar 2013 #92
Oh my God. Maraya1969 Mar 2013 #93
YELLA BOY BUSH & BLACK HEART CHENEY Darly314 Mar 2013 #94
K & R! Wind Dancer Mar 2013 #95
Sounds like a Keith Olbermann "Special Comment" lbrtbell Mar 2013 #98
Post removed Post removed Mar 2013 #99
K & R n/t glinda Mar 2013 #100
My Message to Bush & Cheney: Martin Eden Mar 2013 #101
Here's the one I'm going to kick to my "religious" right wing relatives and accquaintences nightscanner59 Mar 2013 #102
Common people don't matter to these thugs.... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #103
Young's story is told in the excellent film "Body of War" Adenoid_Hynkel Mar 2013 #104
kpete, a day of rewards, not reckoning awaits you. saidsimplesimon Mar 2013 #107
Isn't this history? Genghis_Sean Mar 2013 #108
R#312 & K. My highlights: UTUSN Mar 2013 #110
Message from Tomas's mom: proud2BlibKansan Mar 2013 #111
 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
2. Powerful
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 08:09 AM
Mar 2013

But see, you have to have a heart for that letter to touch you. Bush and Cheney neither one have a heart.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
4. Your right. The heart and soul of all the republican party has left them after 9-11. No moral
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 08:18 AM
Mar 2013

compass. Your right they may escape all of us but if there is a god that won't escape him. Come judgement day they will get their justice. They won't be able to bullshit god.

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
6. Just about the size of it.
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 08:24 AM
Mar 2013

Neither asshole gives shit one about who died in their occupations of choice, their tax-drains of folly. Just another number, just a few billion here and there. In their puny minds, it was all for the "greater good". What that "greater good" was or is, I guess that's for them to know and us to find out.

SylviaD

(721 posts)
89. And WHY will they never face consequences? I will tell you...
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 04:54 PM
Mar 2013

...because the consequences were taken "OFF THE TABLE" by our own Democratic leaders. That's why.

Damn it!!

beac

(9,992 posts)
39. I only wish the two war criminals it is addressed to would be forced to read it.
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 10:48 AM
Mar 2013

And I wish I could rec this one time for every life those two squandered in their lust for gold.

1Greensix

(111 posts)
8. First, find a Republican with morals
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 08:51 AM
Mar 2013

Before you begin going after Bushit and Chicken-cheney you will have to establish that the people they associate with actually have of some kind. I certainly haven't seen one Republican in years that isn't racist, greedy, and ignorant of the Iraq War facts. MOST still think there were weapons of mass destruction (WMD) in Iraq and that Saddam was backing terrorists. Everyone else in the world knows the truth, but Republicans refuse to listen to Six Billion people who accept the truth and watch Fox for their facts. Bushit-cheney, Chicken, Rummy, Rice and Powell should All be in prison, but they're living the High Life while wounded vets and families of dead veterans will spend the remainder of their days in sorrow and pain. Cowards run away, or send someone else to do their fighting. That's Bushit and Chicken-cheney, through and through.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
97. Chafee left the republican party in 2009. He is an Independent who is leaning toward joining
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 09:28 PM
Mar 2013

the Democratic Party like Charlie Crist did in Florida after a much shorter stint as an Independent.

 

LiberalEsto

(22,845 posts)
12. Godspeed, Tomas Young, to a far better place
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 09:04 AM
Mar 2013

I hope wherever your soul travels, you will be surrounded by peace and love.

SmittynMo

(3,544 posts)
13. Very powerful and moving
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 09:04 AM
Mar 2013

I am so sorry this has happened to you, as a direct result of these two incompetent lying assholes. Yes, as stated previously there were more people involved, and yes, they should all rot in prison for the rest of their lives. The fact is they wanted a war. There was no consideration of the human lives involved, and the fact that it was all a lie!!! The right is pro war. Cheney's companies personally profited from this. They have no consideration for human life or reprocussions, just their own personal satisfaction and profits. Their day will come, and it can't be soon enough. All WE can do, from this point forward, is to keep the right from ever becoming in a position of power in future elections.

God bless you.

Ian_rd

(2,124 posts)
14. Something about Bush makes me think he won't be able to shake this from his mind
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 09:06 AM
Mar 2013

Even at the height of my hatred for him, I always saw him as basically a good guy who got wrapped up in his own bullshit, and effectively managed and controlled by more powerful personalities (Cheney et. al.). It wouldn't surprise me if he was troubled in his quieter moments about his role in the needless suffering and death of scores of human beings.

But Cheney? Fuck no. He would read that letter (he wouldn't) and have no reaction whatsoever. That fucker will live his entire life without a hint of responsibility or guilt.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
20. Ya gotta be kidding
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 09:35 AM
Mar 2013


George Bush has no conscience. He does not feel the pain of others. He could read this letter and cheerfully go back to his cute little doggy paintings. He was used as a puppet BECAUSE he exhibited these traits of pathological narcissism (sociopathy), as does his entire family. 43 believes he did the right thing. You have to believe it to do it. He has no troubled quieter moments because he can distance himself emotionally. He has no tears but crocodile tears for himself, sensing that his legacy may be tarnished. He feels no shred of guilt. He "did what he had to do."

Cheney is clearly evil personified, clearly a sociopathic mastermind. But his puppet George was a cooperative vessel. People who are used like that build an even stronger fortress around facing the damage they have done.

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
26. Somenone who mocks the plea of a death row inmate
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 09:54 AM
Mar 2013

isn't what I'd call a good guy. Regardless of how anyone feels about the death penalty, in this incident, Bush revealed what a petty jerk he really is.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/08/28/46908/-Clearing-Up-the-quot-Karla-Faye-Tucker-quot-Episode

Also, the "joke" he did about looking for missing WMDs under a couch in the White House doesn't lead me to believe that deep down he felt troubled in the least about the lies he told and the carnage he unleashed.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
34. For me personally, that "searching for WMD's under the couch" bit
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 10:38 AM
Mar 2013

was when the whole charade came tumbling down. I will never forget seeing that, and going, "Wait! What is he doing? What did he just do?"

People reveal their true selves in such moments.

hibbing

(10,099 posts)
63. Disgusting
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 11:45 AM
Mar 2013

Hi,
That was revolting, and don't forget how all the Washington media elites in the room laughed at it.

Peace

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
86. He started out on his evil socialpathic personality at a very young age when he
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 03:56 PM
Mar 2013

had great fun and many laughs when he inserted firecrackers into frogs and blew them to pieces. He just couldn't have done that to Gods living creatures if he had any sense of EMPATHY!
The first sign of a warped mind are children who are cruel to animals. We were warned! We should have known what we were getting!

He and Cheney and many others are pure EVIL! He doesn't deserve to live long enough to see his grandchild!

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
60. Bush, I think, has fetal alcohol syndrome and so
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 11:35 AM
Mar 2013

was, is and for the short time left to him, will be, developmentally and intellectually disabled. It didn't help that he continued/s to sauce it up. That brain of his is Swiss Cheese.

That's why he was chosen. He's too stupid to know he was the puppet. He was the Cheney's little Court Jester. But, that is an explanation, not an excuse.

I think they are both sociopaths, though, so empathy is an emotion quite out of their repertoires.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
84. Bush has shown sociopathic tendencies throughout his life.
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 03:44 PM
Mar 2013

I am serious about that. Animal torture, laughing at a woman about to be executed, belittling others publicly, etc. etc.

Now? He's busy painting puppies and himself in the tub.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
16. My heart to Thomas Young
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 09:12 AM
Mar 2013
K&R

I don't have the best of health, but I would gladly exchange places with this young man in a NY minute if it was possible. I burn a candle every night now for him. For him and all the other young men who have paid too much for the diabolical antics of the most evil Administration in the history of the USA.

Thanks, kpete, for posting his letter to the men responsible for his plight, and too soon, his demise.

ldlew

(18 posts)
17. Message
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 09:31 AM
Mar 2013

As a veteran, as a person, as a Christian, I watched as many of friends died as well in useless wars primarily for profit for our corporations. From Viet Nam through Desert Storm. As a Christian, I will pray for you for that is all I can do for you. As a person, I honor you, as a Veteran, I like you, hope that all of PNAC followers will rot away and that they will be met by those who have died from their arrogance and greed. From my travels throughout the world, the one thing that always remain the same, the rich are arrogant asses who claim patriotism while lining their wallets and the poor are nothing more than "fodder"who carry the weight of what they have seen and what they have done for a life time. Peace Brother, and you are not alone and I will shed tears for you as I'm doing now.

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
21. They got away with it. The one stopping the prosecutions of these openly-admitted war criminals
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 09:36 AM
Mar 2013

is Obama.

No prosecutions will ever occur.

democrank

(11,098 posts)
28. Welcome to DU, rooster.
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 09:56 AM
Mar 2013

and thank you for your service.

My mate is a Vietnam Vet. I marched against the war and he fought in it. He`s very sick now so we`re at the VA a lot. So many Vietnam Vets there and I love every one of them.

~PEACE~

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
23. Send a copy to every single politician that voted to authorize the Iraq war
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 09:48 AM
Mar 2013

Godspeed, Mr Young, I write this with my eyes brimming with tears.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
52. ^^^^ this
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 11:13 AM
Mar 2013

Forget Cheney and Bush. They sold their souls long ago and are beyond redemption.

But every politician who helped them in their greedy quest and protects them from justice now needs to see this over and over and over again.

ChazInAz

(2,571 posts)
76. A modest suggestion...
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 01:47 PM
Mar 2013

It would be truly excellent if a copy of this, suitably framed for hanging on office walls, were to appear at every seat in the Senate and House. Perhaps with a stick-it note reading: "Discuss".

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
96. I'm planning to mail a copy to my rep, Chellie Pingree
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 09:12 PM
Mar 2013

and my Senators, Collins and King.

At the first hint of talk of an attack on Iran, and I will send more copies with a request to Pingree that she read it to the House.

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
29. I hope this letter will make it onto Fox News & Limbaugh & Hannity & O'Reilly
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 09:56 AM
Mar 2013

...But then again, the Chickenhawk Republican propaganda pimps long ago proved they are willing to ignore or to crap all over honorable veterans who want to speak their truth.

There is no way the Chickenhawks (R) will show proper respect to an honorable veteran. It's too painfully embarasing for them to be shamed for their lies and their evasion of civic responsibility. Yet that way only leads to Redemption.

Botany

(70,524 posts)
31. A friend's son who did three tours in Iraq and has had brain cancer for ...
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 10:10 AM
Mar 2013

... the past 4 or 5 years. No hope for a cure. He was around KBR "burn pits"
in Iraq and he is one of many who now have cancer as a result of being exposed
to the toxins that were being put into the air by KBR.

SaveAmerica

(5,342 posts)
41. In the air, in the sand, who knows where else
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 10:51 AM
Mar 2013

I watched a video the other day of troops burying themselves in the sand for fun and almost had a cow. I'm sorry to hear about your friend's son and really just don't know what to say. What can we do when we feel so helpless.

RVN VET

(492 posts)
33. Whew!
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 10:37 AM
Mar 2013

That is eloquence. It will, of course, be completely lost on it's targets and on the sycophantic supporters of its targets.

Bush had a chance to do a good thing. He could have taken down al Qaeda AND the Taliban. But he chose instead to go for the money, to destroy a nation (Iraq), to slaughter innocent citizens who had been promised "liberation", and allow a good portion of that nation's (and all humanities) history to be looted. All in the interest of the wealthy lumps of offal who profited handsomely from the Iraq debacle. Profited, incidentally, by ripping off our (yours and mine) tax dollars as well as the wealth of Iraq. His place in hell -- would that there was one! -- would be even deeper than Cheney's, I think, because he could have stopped what PNAC and the dregs of humanity represented by that awful, cold-blooded, murderous organization had determined to do. He could have told Cheney to shut up and sit down. He could have listened to the council of his own father who warned him, publicly, of the folly of an Iraq invasion. But he didn't. And now he paints puppies while good men and women die slowly from wounds suffered fighting an unnecessary and illegal war, while tens of thousands of others suffer debilitating wounds that will never heal -- and the VA, itself, suffers under debilitating budget cuts.

Johnson and McNamara stupidly, foolishly, allowed the US to be sucked into what George Ball called "the glue pot of Vietnam." Both paid dearly for their error and McNamara, at least, begged forgiveness before he died. Bush and Cheney are men (?) without conscience; they feel neither remorse nor shame for what they did. They will die despised by millions of Americans and hundreds of millions of others around the world. Would that there were a hell to receive their fetid souls.

brush

(53,794 posts)
48. Thank you for this post. Just as the OP does it gets to the heart of exposing the heartless . nt
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 11:02 AM
Mar 2013

juajen

(8,515 posts)
73. So well said!
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 01:29 PM
Mar 2013

On behalf of my brother, who has been slowly dying from agent orange introduced into his lungs after three tours in vietnam, I thank you.

I am so glad that during Vietnam and Iraq I never shut up about the idiocies of both of these wars. We have so many soldiers who cannot face the realities of the reasons they were sent to these quagmires that it is heartbreaking. They cannot face that they were used by a government they respected and a country they loved. I know my brother and countless others understand how they were used. I wish for him and all other wonderful men, women and families, who were decimated by these wars, peace in their hearts. They are heroes whether acknowledged or not.

All we can do now is cherish them and remember. Never again? Hell, we said that after Vietnam! Stay strong in the belief that wiser hearts might not prevail, but prevent worse atrocities by our diligence, and perhaps a due questioning of the legitimacy of wars by our supposed leadership. We will never know how effective our protests are, but we are required by our hearts and minds to continue protesting and doing everything we can to see that we are responsible and compassionate citizens of the world.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
35. The power of propaganda!
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 10:41 AM
Mar 2013

The government and it's ministry of propaganda, Fox News along with most every other media outlet played right along in promoting this cluster fuck of lies. They enlisted so many who slapped ribbons on their cars and trucks and made us think than being an 'embed' was the second coming of Ernie Pyle.

You went along or you were un American, unpatriotic, not supporting of the troops and 'one of them'! I gave up all my friends to this day over this. They now are complete redneck, NRA assholes on top of being racist. Iraq allowed these unspoken things to become everyday topics. The top ni***r at the time was Barbara Lee (1) for voting against the war. She was the warm up act for Obama.

I was listening to Air America. I wasn't buying the Bush/Cheney lies. Fool me once, right?

The bells really went off when all the corporate ass kissing of veterans started. Budweisers applause in the airport comes to mind. WHY?

Nothing was accomplished and applauding retention and multiple, extended tours was brushed off. After all. We Support the Troops! In hindsight, getting spit on was the better option as all the support was window dressing to distract people from the abuse we subjected our troops and the Iraqis to.

For many of us, we won't get fooled again was right!. How did we know better? Been there, done that.

Semper Fi Brother Tomas. We will continue the fight on your behalf.

USMC
1973 - 1978

I never knew until last night that Nixon scuttled a 1968 peace prospect in Nam. I felt like I was shot.

(1) Lee is notable as the only member of either house of Congress to vote against the authorization of use of force following the September 11, 2001 attacks.[1] This made her a hero among many in the anti-war movement.[2] Lee has been a vocal critic of the war in Iraq and supports legislation creating a Department of Peace.

SaveAmerica

(5,342 posts)
36. I am Rec 100 on this 10th anniversary, a most sad milestone
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 10:47 AM
Mar 2013

I'd love to make every person who cheered on the war-mongers 10 years ago read this letter and its immense and intense truth.

I wish Tomas Young peace, he deserves so much more.

mountain grammy

(26,630 posts)
37. We said "never again" after Vietnam.. but, hell, what else can we do with a huge military
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 10:47 AM
Mar 2013

and all those fun weapons of mass destruction? We could allow sales to civilians, that'll help a little, but nothing makes these guys rich like a good old fashioned ground war.
Every American should be required to read this letter!

sarchasm

(1,012 posts)
38. Tomas, thank you. Your words have touched me and are part of your legacy.
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 10:47 AM
Mar 2013

The only glimmer of hope in this is a hope that some are finally waking up. The pendulum appears to be have momentum in the opposite direction. We, as a nation, have much to atone for, and those with a voice should never be silent again. My hope is that the accursed, through his contemplative artistic endeavor realizes what his anger has wrought, and that mine won't consume me.

joanbarnes

(1,722 posts)
40. We need Rachel, Lawrence, (or Keith or Ed) to read this on the air.....
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 10:51 AM
Mar 2013

And may this brave soul find his peace and rest in eternal peace. Thank you My Brother!

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
42. A stunning indictment of not just The Bush Cabal...
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 10:51 AM
Mar 2013

... but also those, that to this day, have done NOTHING to bring these evil War Criminals to justice. NOTHING.

bread_and_roses

(6,335 posts)
45. That is heart-wrenching. It is also sad that he still believes
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 10:57 AM
Mar 2013

It is also terribly sad that he still believes that the killing and destruction in Afghanistan war has anything to do with or is in any way protecting our "National Security." Or is any more legitimate than the killing and destruction we inflicted on Iraq.

brush

(53,794 posts)
50. I myself am torn about the Afghanistan war
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 11:12 AM
Mar 2013

Last edited Tue Mar 19, 2013, 12:49 PM - Edit history (1)

I favored going after Bin Laden. He was in Afghanistan. We certainly had to respond to 9/11, no way that you don't. What is you idea of what we should have done after 9/11? I marched in New York and down in DC against the Bush/Cheney bait and switch to also invade Iraq, by the way. I also believe we should gotten in and out of Afghanistan. Being still there now is almost unfathomable.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
46. If they had had the courage to apologize, they would had had the courage to go to war!
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 10:59 AM
Mar 2013

They do not care about us, the 1% just have no empathy nor honor!

valerief

(53,235 posts)
47. When people stop joining the military to defend and protect these assholes,
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 11:02 AM
Mar 2013

the mercenaries will. These assholes will always exist, like death and taxes.

ismnotwasm

(41,995 posts)
56. K&R
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 11:18 AM
Mar 2013

I recently sat next to a young man who had been injured n the war, he was missing a eye and had had some kind of head wound. He wasn't quite 'right' he was very clear that he despised the Bush & Co. Administration, in his rambling way. He was quite a talker, it as clear he couldn't get words out in time to correspond with the pain and anger he had inside, combined with personal experience.

In particular, he seem to dislike Rumsfield, but he whole administration was the target of his ire.


I don't think he'll ever be 'right' I don't know all his complications, past or future that ruined this clearly intelligent young man. I do know this letter expresses what he wasn't quite able to say.

May this veteran get his wish, may these people be brought up for criminal charges, tried and convicted.

The letter expresses my wishes as well. I'm the mother of two veterans of that war, my daughter, Afghanistan, my son Iraq.

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
57. Unfortunately, moral courage are two words that will never be
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 11:30 AM
Mar 2013

applied to Bush or Cheney. Never have been. Never will be.

moondust

(19,993 posts)
61. They have no souls, Mr. Young.
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 11:37 AM
Mar 2013

Those being long ago exchanged for a few pieces of gold and a fleeting wisp of glory.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
64. incredibly powerful. Eloquent.
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 12:01 PM
Mar 2013

Should be published worldwide and delivered to the door of every b*sh supporting idiot in the country.

riverbendviewgal

(4,253 posts)
65. do a mass mailing
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 12:33 PM
Mar 2013

To all vfw, American legions , all members of congress then and now, bush and Cheney and the bush cabinet, all media, and local papers. Who has the guts to respnd to WHY did the Iraq war go forward after the in sanctioned inspections.

colorado_ufo

(5,737 posts)
68. Thank you, Tomas Young, not only for your service to our country
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 12:52 PM
Mar 2013

but to your service to the thousands on whose behalf you wrote your exceedingly eloquent, moving letter. Peace and blessings upon you. I hope for a miracle for you, and that health and more time will be granted to you. But if that is not possible, then let me assure you that you will not be forgotten.

 

John2

(2,730 posts)
74. I'm a veteran
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 01:32 PM
Mar 2013

who served in the U.S. military myself for a number of years. I also have family members that served before me and numerous friends. I remember the stories they back home from World War II, North Korea and Vietnam. I served in South Korea near the DMZ and in Germany during the Cold War. I was also in the military during the first Gulf War. I've served a number of specialties during my tour including in hospitals and on the front line in the field. I got to see a lot of things in the World during my time in service. The only reason my service ended was because of a disability. I had come up through the enlisted ranks.

When I first read this, the first thought came to my mind was this guy really authentic because he really sounded like it. It is the way I feel about War. The only reasons I see committing American lives to War is to defend this country. I was against George Bush from the very beginning when he talked about nation building. This country owes people who commit their lives to defend this country. When men like Mitt Romney, Paul Ryan, Dick Cheney and Cruz now talk about commitment and country, they know nothing about it. Romney advocated sending others and their kids to Vietnam, but he would never commit himself or his kids to the same sacrifice. They have no business talking about who are moochers and takers.

Rider3

(919 posts)
69. A Powerful, heart-wrenching letter.
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 12:54 PM
Mar 2013

I wish Bush/Cheney will read this letter, but I'm betting they'll ignore it, like they have alreadt done to our veterans. Peace in your final days, sir, and thank you for your service.

lpbk2713

(42,761 posts)
71. It's good this letter was made public.
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 01:13 PM
Mar 2013



If Bush & Cheney were the only ones to ever see it the letter would have no impact at all.
It would not bother them because they have no conscience.


Mr Dixon

(1,185 posts)
72. SMH
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 01:17 PM
Mar 2013

The cycle continues, Wars always start off as the protection of the nation’s only to later realize it was all lies, see “gulf of tonkin” the rich always send the poor people to fight their battles nothing has changed. I’m sure neither of these clowns will or have lost any sleep over the blood on their hands, evil will not concede power without bloodshed.

judesedit

(4,440 posts)
77. Well written, Tomas. God bless you. You are going home and it will be a wonderful place with no pain
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 01:50 PM
Mar 2013

You will be whole again. God will judge Bush and Cheney and they will judge themselves for eternity. It won't be pretty. They say we will have to feel the pain of all those we've hurt. That will be a lot of pain for each of them and will last a long, long time if that's any comfort. Jesus said to forgive. If we don't it will eat us alive. Let go and let God. Hope to meet you one day on the flip side as my brother calls it.

judesedit

(4,440 posts)
78. Most important of all, thank you so much for your service to this country.You were trying to do the
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 01:52 PM
Mar 2013

honorable thing.

polynomial

(750 posts)
79. This Court of the Free Peoples
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 02:03 PM
Mar 2013

Hear ye, Hear ye, in this Court of the Free Peoples of these United States open and in public the medium called the Internet hereby address these truths in this letter by Mr. Tomas Young do here by establish and enforce this message to be carried out in infamy. Copy it, save it, print it, and never, never forget Mr. Thomas Young for his service and courage to be forthcoming to witness the war crimes and war profiteering by Bush and Cheney.

Every time Jeb Bush appears at a political ralley and says stop blaming my brother about the economy sends chills through me. The war profiteering that happened is a crime, the people displaced and murdered is a crime, the total action was intended and structured from the moment Bush appointed the new Supreme Court members, Alito, and Roberts. They are key players in this mess. Of course, so little is ever said about Jeb Bush who with the help, by voter fraud, and with the help of the Supreme Court Members establishes his brother George Bush as president in the first election, 2000. The second election also was a fraud, only five people voted for Bush in the second election. That is the Supreme Court Justices Alito, Thomas, Roberts, Scalia, and O’Conner, actually gave Bush his second term in office
.
The justice that needs to be done is simple and ordinary. Freeze all Bush Cheney assets to be distributed to veterans. Second banish the whole administration from being a citizen forevermore to never again they and their family member be part of or return to America soil or participate in civil citizenship or politics, or economic participation directly or indirectly forever more. Any and all money transactions made by these members to be taxed seventy times seven for any purchases from America. So it is written, so let it be done this time forward.

God Bless you Mr. Thomas, and may God give you a position at his right hand to resolve the injustice you endured as with other veterans and ordinary citizens of the world and of these United States.

Yours truly,

A Vietnam Veteran

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
80. I'm blown away!
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 02:20 PM
Mar 2013

and choked up with tears. Thank-you for telling the truth. I think Bush knows what he did. Cheney -- not so much. Bush knows that he got suckered and manipulated by Cheney. Whether Bush has swept it all under the rug and pretends to himself that he's a good guy, or has deep deep regrets and embarrassment about what he did; we'll probably never know. But -- and this is important -- the rest of us know, and generations beyond us will know too. GW Bush's name in history will be reviled; it will be mud.

Thank for your service and sacrifice. You go out as a hero and truth-to-power teller in my book.

Wind Dancer

(3,618 posts)
81. My heart is breaking!
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 02:34 PM
Mar 2013

"Body of War" is a documentary about Tomas Young by Phil Donahue and Ellen
Spiro with music by Eddie Vedder from Pearl Jam. You can watch on Netflix - I'd suggest having a box of tissues.

I'm so sorry to hear this sad news.

http://www.bodyofwar.com/

Jessy169

(602 posts)
82. The Smirking Chimp is too shallow to "get it"
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 03:38 PM
Mar 2013

Dick Cheney is in his dark basement, chuckling and eating popcorn while he watches videos of Iraqis being tortured, his safe packed full of loot and investment certificates that he "earned" from all the war and death he instigated. The villians are all still out there, living the high life, safe, well-compensated by the oil companies and other ruthless entities that profited hugely from the still on-going war. They have no soul, no conscience, no heart. They are evil to the core.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
83. History will remember the BFEE for what it is, they cannot
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 03:42 PM
Mar 2013

pay enough money to enough people around the world to change the facts. The FACT is, the BFEE will be remembered as a bloodthirsty cabal that almost destroyed the world financial system as well as Americas infrastructure. Not to mention the COUNTLESS lives lost in Iraq based on lies to Congress and the U.N. from the Executive branch.

BANK ON IT.

Darly314

(23 posts)
94. YELLA BOY BUSH & BLACK HEART CHENEY
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 08:49 PM
Mar 2013

Baby Bush got to PLAY soldier, endear himself to King Abdullah by giving bin Laden a pass; Cheney pocketed three million. Americans got death and debt; wars take a hundred years to pay for-see the Bush boy LAUGH, joking about the WMDs. May he pay for eternity, with his boss Cheney.

Response to kpete (Original post)

Martin Eden

(12,872 posts)
101. My Message to Bush & Cheney:
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 10:15 PM
Mar 2013
I’d tell you to go fuck yourself
But that is much too kind
Because if you could perform that feat
You’d take pleasure in your behind

I’d like to say eat shit and die
But you deserve much more
You should suffer all the grief and pain
Of your misbegotten war

Though I can never make you feel
Or think, or understand
I’ll take solace when you hear your name
Cursed throughout the land

From inside a lonely prison cell
Dark and bare and cold
Where every day you pay for your crimes
Till you’re sick, heartbroken, and old

And when you finally leave the earth
You fucked over oh so well
If there is a God and afterlife
You’re going straight to hell.

nightscanner59

(802 posts)
102. Here's the one I'm going to kick to my "religious" right wing relatives and accquaintences
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 10:30 PM
Mar 2013

Who all state they long for the days of GWB. Give me an emesis basin.

 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
104. Young's story is told in the excellent film "Body of War"
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 04:45 AM
Mar 2013

I posted clip of it in the video section last night before I saw this piece:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017106663

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
107. kpete, a day of rewards, not reckoning awaits you.
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 07:12 AM
Mar 2013

kpete, I've been reading your comments for some time.

I believe that what you do to the least of your brothers you finally do to yourself, to your own soul.


We (the majority) reject war, mourn victims, and vow to reverse this tide.

PS: I never expected to live the experience of senior moments. You are so very young.

Genghis_Sean

(39 posts)
108. Isn't this history?
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 07:39 AM
Mar 2013

I think this letter should be on a sidebar in our high school American history textbooks.

UTUSN

(70,715 posts)
110. R#312 & K. My highlights:
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 11:24 AM
Mar 2013


*************QUOTE*************

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/19/tomas-young-letter-iraq_n_2908335.html
[font size=5]A Message to George W. Bush and Dick Cheney From a Dying Veteran
To: George W. Bush and Dick Cheney
From: Tomas Young[/font]
I write this letter on the 10th anniversary of the Iraq War on behalf of my fellow Iraq War veterans. I write this letter on behalf of the 4,488 soldiers and Marines who died in Iraq. I write this letter on behalf of the hundreds of thousands of veterans who have been wounded and on behalf of those whose wounds, physical and psychological, have destroyed their lives. I am one of those gravely wounded. I was paralyzed in an insurgent ambush in 2004 in Sadr City. My life is coming to an end. I am living under hospice care.

I write this letter on behalf of husbands and wives who have lost spouses, on behalf of children who have lost a parent, on behalf of the fathers and mothers who have lost sons and daughters and on behalf of those who care for the many thousands of my fellow veterans who have brain injuries. I write this letter on behalf of those veterans whose [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow"]trauma and self-revulsion for what they have witnessed, endured and done in Iraq[/FONT] have led to suicide and on behalf of the active-duty soldiers and Marines who commit, on average, a suicide a day. I write this letter on behalf of the some 1 million Iraqi dead and on behalf of the countless Iraqi wounded. I write this letter on behalf of us all—the [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow"]human detritus your war has left behind[/FONT], those who will spend their lives in unending pain and grief.

I write this letter, my last letter, to you, Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney. [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow"]I write not because I think you grasp the terrible human and moral consequences of your lies, manipulation and thirst for wealth and power[/FONT]. I write this letter because, before my own death, I want to make it clear that I, and hundreds of thousands of my fellow veterans, along with millions of my fellow citizens, along with hundreds of millions more in Iraq and the Middle East, [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow"]know fully who you are and what you have done. You may evade justice but in our eyes you are each guilty of egregious war crimes, of plunder and, finally, of murder[/FONT], including the murder of thousands of young Americans—my fellow veterans—whose future you stole.

Your positions of authority, your millions of dollars of personal wealth, your public relations consultants, your privilege and your power cannot mask the hollowness of your character. [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow"]You sent us to fight and die in Iraq after you, Mr. Cheney, dodged the draft in Vietnam, and you, Mr. Bush, went AWOL[/FONT] from your National Guard unit. Your cowardice and selfishness were established decades ago. You were not willing to risk yourselves for our nation but you sent hundreds of thousands of young men and women to be sacrificed in a senseless war with no more thought than it takes to put out the garbage.

I joined the Army two days after the 9/11 attacks. I joined the Army because our country had been attacked. I wanted to strike back at those who had killed some 3,000 of my fellow citizens. I did not join the Army to go to Iraq, a country that had no part in the September 2001 attacks and did not pose a threat to its neighbors, much less to the United States. [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow"]I did not join the Army to “liberate” Iraqis or to shut down mythical weapons-of-mass-destruction[/FONT] facilities or to implant what you cynically called “democracy” in Baghdad and the Middle East. I did not join the Army to rebuild Iraq, which at the time you told us could be paid for by Iraq’s oil revenues. Instead, this war has cost the United States over $3 trillion. [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow"]I especially did not join the Army to carry out pre-emptive war[/FONT]. Pre-emptive war is illegal under international law. And as a soldier in Iraq I was, I now know, abetting your idiocy and your crimes. The Iraq War is the largest strategic blunder in U.S. history. It obliterated the balance of power in the Middle East. It installed a corrupt and brutal pro-Iranian government in Baghdad, one cemented in power through the use of torture, death squads and terror. And it has left Iran as the dominant force in the region. On every level—moral, strategic, military and economic—Iraq was a failure. And it was you, Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney, who started this war. It is you who should pay the consequences

I would not be writing this letter if I had been wounded fighting in Afghanistan against those forces that carried out the attacks of 9/11. Had I been wounded there I would still be miserable because of my physical deterioration and imminent death, but I would at least have the comfort of knowing that my injuries were a consequence of my own decision to defend the country I love. I would not have to lie in my bed, my body filled with painkillers, my life ebbing away, and deal with the fact that hundreds of thousands of human beings, including children, including myself, were [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow"]sacrificed by you for little more than the greed of oil companies, for your alliance with the oil sheiks in Saudi Arabia, and your insane visions of empire[/FONT].

I have, like many other disabled veterans, suffered from the inadequate and often inept care provided by the Veterans Administration. I have, like many other disabled veterans, come to realize that our mental and physical wounds are of no interest to you, perhaps of no interest to any politician. We were used. We were betrayed. And we have been abandoned. [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow"]You, Mr. Bush, make much pretense of being a Christian[/FONT]. But isn’t lying a sin? Isn’t murder a sin? Aren’t theft and selfish ambition sins? I am not a Christian. But I believe in the Christian ideal. I believe that [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow"]what you do to the least of your brothers you finally do to yourself, to your own soul[/FONT].

My day of reckoning is upon me. Yours will come. I hope you will be put on trial. But mostly I hope, for your sakes, that you find the moral courage to face what you have done to me and to many, many others who deserved to live. I hope that before your time on earth ends, as mine is now ending, you will [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow"]find the strength of character to stand before the American public and the world, and in particular the Iraqi people, and beg for forgiveness[/FONT].


*************UNQUOTE*************

proud2BlibKansan

(96,793 posts)
111. Message from Tomas's mom:
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 10:43 PM
Mar 2013
Reposting...#1 trending on Yahoo...29thousand comments so far...my son has reopened the dialog...tell me bush and cheney haven't heard about this...couldn't be prouder of my amazing son...his legacy...
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