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octothorpe

(962 posts)
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 03:48 PM Feb 2012

Do debates really matter?

Have you or anyone you've known changed their vote based on a presidential debate? I can see how they can be of use for primaries when a party is narrowing down it's candidates. Let's say Mitt is the person who runs against Obama, is there anything either Romney or Obama could say that would get you to vote against Obama and for Mitt ( I'm assuming most others here will be voting for Obama)? I'm pretty sure there isn't anything Romney could say that will get me to vote for him.. Perhaps I'm missing the overall goals of such debates?

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Do debates really matter? (Original Post) octothorpe Feb 2012 OP
For an undecided casual voter, it might change your mind. Jennicut Feb 2012 #1
I wonder how many of those people exist octothorpe Feb 2012 #8
Debates definitely have an impact particularly on undecided voters. AtomicKitten Feb 2012 #2
Ask Rick Parry OffWithTheirHeads Feb 2012 #3
+1 Good point! Little Star Feb 2012 #4
Yeah, I get it for the primaries octothorpe Feb 2012 #5
I can give you three reasons why they matter... n/t DefenseLawyer Feb 2012 #13
Yes, but for the wrong reasons jberryhill Feb 2012 #6
+1, unfortunately its about soundbites, and bumper stickers. Not concrete policy discussion. n/t Joe Shlabotnik Feb 2012 #12
Yes, I have. hfojvt Feb 2012 #7
Were you pretty politically aware back then? octothorpe Feb 2012 #9
as aware as a kid could be hfojvt Feb 2012 #10
What I've noticed is that gopiscrap Feb 2012 #11
They absolutely matter RZM Feb 2012 #14

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
1. For an undecided casual voter, it might change your mind.
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 03:51 PM
Feb 2012

It is not really for people who are already committed to a candidate.

octothorpe

(962 posts)
8. I wonder how many of those people exist
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 04:05 PM
Feb 2012

Like I consider myself pretty open minded and I'll listen to anyone's views and consider them, but I find the republican party has more than a few "key" beliefs that seem so far out there, that I couldn't support them even if they managed to convince me their correctness on everything else.

I doubt anyone here on DU would fit into the category you mentioned though, aye?

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
2. Debates definitely have an impact particularly on undecided voters.
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 03:53 PM
Feb 2012

It's an exercise in thinking on one's feet.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
6. Yes, but for the wrong reasons
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 03:57 PM
Feb 2012

It's like watching NASCAR for the crashes.

Ever since Reagan said, "There you go again..." to President Carter, campaigns have been looking for the knockout zinger of some kind.

Lloyd Bensen's "I knew Jack Kennedy..." speech was another example, as was Palin's miserably flat, "Say it ain't so, Joe..." for which she awkwardly had to first ask permission to call him Joe, and which was skewered in the SNL sendup of that debate.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
7. Yes, I have.
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 04:02 PM
Feb 2012

I was a Reagan supporter from about 1978 (when I was 16) and his performance in the debates in 1984 made me question that. Also, the primary debates in 2008 were one significant way to get to know the candidates who previously had been unknown. It was from a debate that I decided that I don't like Richardson, and my preference for Obama over Hillary was greatly strengthened by this exchnage.

octothorpe

(962 posts)
9. Were you pretty politically aware back then?
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 04:13 PM
Feb 2012

It seems these days, one would have to be pretty oblivious to their surroundings to not have a good idea about the candidates stances. That seems like it would be difficult these days with all the sources of information constantly bombarding us even if we're not actively looking for it. Where as back in the day, if you didn't watch the news or read the newspapers, where else would get the information?

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
10. as aware as a kid could be
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 06:05 PM
Feb 2012

I even watched the debates in 1976 and also turned on McGovern in 1972 when I saw him on TV saying that the space program was a waste of money.

As for being bombarded, I am not sure how true that is. If I quit the internet or just quit DU and the Daily Howler, I wonder what information I would get from the M$M? I don't have cable so all I could watch are the big 4 and PBS. Well, there are magazines and books too. I get three progressive magazines. I cannot remember reading as a kid except for National Geographic and Reader's Digest. Reagan had this little two minute show on the radio that I used to listen to as well.

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
14. They absolutely matter
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 11:36 PM
Feb 2012

Many Republican voters aren't exactly moved by any of the candidates. And if you're talking Paul, Romney, Gingrich, and Santorum, can you really blame them? The debates are an important chance they have to form opinions without having to leave the house and go to a rally.

Gingrich probably padded his victory in S. Carolina by several points when he dissed the MSM in the debate there. S. Carolina Republicans hate the MSM only slightly less than DU does

And as another poster pointed out, there's Rick Perry too. While Perry probably had no shot to begin with, he would have done better had he not made a complete ass of himself during the debates.

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