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Earth_First

(14,910 posts)
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 02:25 PM Feb 2012

Josh Fox (Gasland) led away in handcuffs from hearing

Oscar-nominated documentary filmmaker Josh Fox was arrested Wednesday morning after attempting to film a House Science Committee hearing on hydraulic fracturing.

Fox was led out in handcuffs by the Capitol police shortly after 10 a.m., before the hearing could be gaveled into order. The "Gasland" director was attempting to film the hearing looking into EPA's investigation of potential water contamination from natural gas drilling in Pavillion, Wyo.

The committee recessed after Rep. Brad Miller (D-N.C.) called a motion to suspend the committee rules and allow for Fox and the ABC crew to film the hearing.

Before Miller's motion, subcommittee chairman Rep. Andy Harris (R-Md.) noted that the hearing is being webcast and that anyone filming the hearing would need the appropriate press credentials.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0212/72298.html#ixzz1l9jM1MbH



GASLAND's Josh Fox, arrested at the Congressional Hearing on fracking/drilling contamination of Pavillion, WY groundwater - and EPA's investigation of it.

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Josh Fox (Gasland) led away in handcuffs from hearing (Original Post) Earth_First Feb 2012 OP
So much for transparency in government in allowing citizen journalists/documentarians to participate Earth_First Feb 2012 #1
And this kind of behavior is what is really dishonoring the flag. Silence the press sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #2
+1 Earth_First Feb 2012 #6
don't burn a flag in the land of the free! piratefish08 Feb 2012 #3
I guess I don't understand why he did this... Ohio Joe Feb 2012 #4
To a suspicious person like me, having an independent journalist is better... Scuba Feb 2012 #7
Thats great... I could buy wanting that Ohio Joe Feb 2012 #10
I get the First Amendment issue, and I understand the civil disobiendence tactic... Earth_First Feb 2012 #8
OK, I guess I can see that but it begs the question... Ohio Joe Feb 2012 #11
Who ahs control over the camera for the web cast...who would it show... joeybee12 Feb 2012 #12
I can see that but as I said above... Ohio Joe Feb 2012 #13
I have emailed their media request contact hoping to address this issue... Earth_First Feb 2012 #17
Cool Ohio Joe Feb 2012 #18
Not from Fox, but Jerry Nadler... Earth_First Feb 2012 #20
This definitly makes a case for breach of First Amendment IMO Ohio Joe Feb 2012 #21
House Republicans also denied an ABC news crew abelenkpe Feb 2012 #15
I'm seeing that the credentialed were allowed in later Ohio Joe Feb 2012 #16
That is disgusting. CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2012 #5
Disgusting REPUBLICANS! B Calm Feb 2012 #14
"They hate us for our freedoms." - George W. Bush Bozita Feb 2012 #9
kick! n/t Earth_First Feb 2012 #19

Earth_First

(14,910 posts)
1. So much for transparency in government in allowing citizen journalists/documentarians to participate
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 02:29 PM
Feb 2012

You must be "properly credentialed" doublespeak for: "You will report what we decide you report..."

So disappointing...

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
2. And this kind of behavior is what is really dishonoring the flag. Silence the press
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 02:33 PM
Feb 2012

could it be any more anti-Constitutional, and is there any doubt why the US has fallen to #47 on the World's Free Press list?

Ohio Joe

(21,756 posts)
4. I guess I don't understand why he did this...
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 02:35 PM
Feb 2012

There was a post here yesterday wanting people to sign so he could go in and film because they had said he could not so he knew this would be the result... OK, sometimes you need to get arrested to make a point, I'm there but... It was being web-cast and that is easily captured so what point is he trying to make? First Amendment.... I'm not sure I see a case for that. Anyone better versed then I (because I'm not) in Constitutional law see it?

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
7. To a suspicious person like me, having an independent journalist is better...
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 02:52 PM
Feb 2012

... than watching over the House's webcast, which could be rigged.


It's a public hearing. We allegedly have a free press. Why bar anyone?

Ohio Joe

(21,756 posts)
10. Thats great... I could buy wanting that
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 03:01 PM
Feb 2012

I am still not sure that fits into First Amendment. As I'm seeing it (and perhaps I'm wrong) he was not barred, he was barred from filming it. He could have sat in, take notes and compared what he saw to the web-cast after.

I guess I'm just not seeing what point he is trying to make, usualy when people get arrested on purpose like this it is to make a point. If it were 'We don't trust the web-cast', why not say that... First Amendment does not seem to fit to me.

Earth_First

(14,910 posts)
8. I get the First Amendment issue, and I understand the civil disobiendence tactic...
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 02:55 PM
Feb 2012

We're on the same page there.

The problem with this, is that after the fact, the comittee recessed to discuss media coverage and allowed the 'credentialed' press access.

It's not as though Mr. Fox is just some guy off the street with high-end digital recording equipment looking to make a stir.

This does not get any more Constitutional that THAT!

Allowing access to one group, yet not another?

This is a credited, Oscar-nominated documentary film-maker...

The issue here is they do not have the ability to censor the end result of his presence this morning.

Ohio Joe

(21,756 posts)
11. OK, I guess I can see that but it begs the question...
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 03:11 PM
Feb 2012

Why did he not get the credentials? Was he denied... Did not do it in time... I guess there could be a lot of reasons why but I also think it is important to know what it is before I can get outraged about it.

I am not sure I agree it is censorship in this case (I could be convinced otherwise, I'm on the fence here) since there is a web-cast and others filming it... I'm not convinced of the case for that.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
12. Who ahs control over the camera for the web cast...who would it show...
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 03:11 PM
Feb 2012

Any film maker would want control...get reactions from the participants...can't get that from a stationery camera.

Ohio Joe

(21,756 posts)
13. I can see that but as I said above...
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 03:13 PM
Feb 2012

Why did he not get credentials so he could do it? Was he mot allowed or fail to do it in some way? The level of outrage depends greatly on which it is.

Earth_First

(14,910 posts)
17. I have emailed their media request contact hoping to address this issue...
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 03:33 PM
Feb 2012

It's either not being reported on in enough depth, or omitted entirely.

I will post my findings...

Earth_First

(14,910 posts)
20. Not from Fox, but Jerry Nadler...
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 10:58 PM
Feb 2012

Rep. Jerry Nadler (D-N.Y.) told HuffPost, “I have served in the House of Representatives since 1992, and I had the privilege of chairing the Subcommittee on the Constitution, Civil Rights, and Civil Liberties. In all that time, I cannot recall a chair of any committee or subcommittee having ever ordered the removal of a person who was filming a committee proceeding and not being disruptive, whether or not that person was accredited. It is a matter of routine that all sorts of people photograph and record our proceedings. Most of them are not accredited. I cannot recall anyone questioning their right to be there."

Ohio Joe

(21,756 posts)
21. This definitly makes a case for breach of First Amendment IMO
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 01:14 PM
Feb 2012

Thank you for the update, appreciated.

I expect charges will be dropped... Not that it matters much, the damage is done and he will beat them even if they are not dropped. I hope he gets a lawyer and goes after the fuckers.

abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
15. House Republicans also denied an ABC news crew
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 03:23 PM
Feb 2012

that had the proper credentials. So would it have mattered if he did get the proper credentials? Doesn't seem likely.

Ohio Joe

(21,756 posts)
16. I'm seeing that the credentialed were allowed in later
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 03:28 PM
Feb 2012

At least... That is what is being stated above but.... Perhaps not, though if he had gotten them and was then denied, I could see the case for First Amendment and give this some outrage.

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