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onehandle

(51,122 posts)
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 11:36 AM Mar 2013

'If You Wear Google’s New Glasses You Are An Asshole'



Atlantic writer Ta-Nehisi Coates has developed a brilliantly concise definition of an asshole: "A person who demands that all social interaction happen on their terms." He was inspired by the assholes who talk in Amtrak's quiet car, but this reasoning also perfectly explains why those who use Google's new wearable computer are assholes, by definition.

Google Glass is the gadget all techies at South By Southwest are talking about this week. Glass is a wearable computer eye piece, which allows you to snap photos, read the news and do Google searches all while looking like an extra from the dance club scene in the Matrix. Glass is not yet publicly available, but Google is graciously allowing select geeks to purchase it early for $1,500, if they write them an essay about why they deserve one.

Glass has sparked much excitement and controversy. Having a computer strapped to your face is the second-greatest geek dream after robot sex. Critics have pointed out the privacy implications of Glass, for which one of the first apps is a program that lets you identify your friends in a crowd based only on what clothes they are wearing. A Seattle bar has already banned Glass, half in jest. Is Glass The Future of Computers or a Privacy Nightmare? I am not concerned with these questions. Instead I'm concerned with a much finer point: People who wear Google Glass in public are assholes.

Wearing Google Glass is functionally the same as living with a smart phone held constantly at eye-level. I've never seen it done, but I think most of us would be comfortable labeling anyone who walked around holding their smart phone at eye-level an asshole, and not just because it looks even stupider than Glass. The smartphone eye-level guy is an asshole because most of us 1) value the undistracted attention of those we're speaking to and 2) don't like to be filmed or photographed without our knowledge. If you come up to me with a smartphone held at eye level and demand that I interact with you like you're not being an asshole, you are an asshole. You are demanding social interaction on your wholly weird and unsettling terms. This does not change if the smartphone is tiny and strapped to your eye and made by Google. In fact, you thinking that this excuses your asshole behavior just makes you that much more of an asshole.

http://gawker.com/5990395/if-you-wear-googles-new-glasses-you-are-an-asshole

There is a growing groundswell to 'pre-ban' Google Glasses. Offices, Entertainment Venues, Restaurants, Courtrooms, Schools, more...

I think Google didn't think this through.
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'If You Wear Google’s New Glasses You Are An Asshole' (Original Post) onehandle Mar 2013 OP
"Google is graciously allowing select geeks to purchase it early for $1,500, if they write them quinnox Mar 2013 #1
PT Barnum sales model. nt msanthrope Mar 2013 #5
Does nobody see the irony of the definition? Goblinmonger Mar 2013 #2
That's what you took from this? Sheldon Cooper Mar 2013 #4
It seemed pretty obvious on first read. Goblinmonger Mar 2013 #6
Right on. randome Mar 2013 #8
Glaringly obvious. bananas Mar 2013 #113
Yes, that's right...it's either your terms or my terms! TroglodyteScholar Mar 2013 #14
That's not what that definition gets to. Goblinmonger Mar 2013 #18
I make no claim that social norms are always right. TroglodyteScholar Mar 2013 #28
Apple fanbois MattBaggins Mar 2013 #15
And that they invented rectums theKed Mar 2013 #86
The key word there is "all" - an asshole demands "all" interactions occur on his/her petronius Mar 2013 #46
Why do we toss out insults so quickly? demwing Mar 2013 #52
Good observation. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #69
What if everyone present are naturally assholes? Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #87
Yeah.... sibelian Mar 2013 #106
+1 wtmusic Mar 2013 #108
The creep factor of this is off the scale. Sheldon Cooper Mar 2013 #3
The technology is going to be built into more normal looking glasses and sunglasses. nt stevenleser Mar 2013 #35
Creeper-glasses? backscatter712 Mar 2013 #63
I watch TBBT on occasion. SamReynolds Mar 2013 #120
"Having a computer strapped to your face is the second-greatest geek dream after robot sex." Scuba Mar 2013 #7
indeed quinnox Mar 2013 #10
Bill Maher talked about this.... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #90
except maybe by sex with a real person.... Victor_c3 Mar 2013 #93
Nope. Xithras Mar 2013 #151
I REALLY want one now jpak Mar 2013 #9
gawd, people already look stupid fingering their handhelds Skittles Mar 2013 #11
I would feel a strong urge to "accidently" trip anyone I saw quinnox Mar 2013 #12
forget that Skittles Mar 2013 #13
You won't know. The versions will be out that look like regular glasses/sunglasses. nt stevenleser Mar 2013 #39
Generation IV will look something like this, SayWut Mar 2013 #54
And you get into the longest fistfight in history ThoughtCriminal Mar 2013 #117
Actually, you've gone a ways toward making me favor these things: petronius Mar 2013 #109
Ironically, people who wear glasses can't use these. JaneyVee Mar 2013 #16
Not true RoccoR5955 Mar 2013 #19
I heard there wasn't a version yet. Good news. I would wear these, occasionally. JaneyVee Mar 2013 #26
Don't think that is true Goblinmonger Mar 2013 #21
This just HAPPENS to have been posted by a well-known Apple shill. Dreamer Tatum Mar 2013 #17
As soon as apple puts out a version, it will be cool. nt stevenleser Mar 2013 #37
Same dicks, different logo. Throd Mar 2013 #78
+1000 Blue_Tires Mar 2013 #73
Is everybody going to go around in google glasses 5 years from now, Quantess Mar 2013 #20
"...finger-fucking their smartphones all over the place?" quinnox Mar 2013 #24
No, but it does make you look like a DragonBall Z nerd. Arkana Mar 2013 #22
+1 JHB Mar 2013 #34
It is a Scouter! n/t backscatter712 Mar 2013 #150
If you punched one of these glass-wearers in the face JBoy Mar 2013 #23
guess that would make the puncher the asshole..... bowens43 Mar 2013 #79
There is going to a backlash against all this whiz-bang technology. reformist2 Mar 2013 #25
yes, just like the backlash against the horseless carriage bowens43 Mar 2013 #80
An increasing number of people don't own cars, you know. reformist2 Mar 2013 #99
backlash against the horseless carriage = global climate change arcane1 Mar 2013 #110
Next up ...Google auto windshields ...and bathroom mirrors. n/t L0oniX Mar 2013 #27
Google auto windshields AlbertCat Mar 2013 #41
I wouldn't mind a google auto windshield Revanchist Mar 2013 #45
...with Google ads for Valvoline along side of your oil light or Shell beside your fuel gadge. n/t L0oniX Mar 2013 #122
Loonix> this was the direction my thoughts went. Even more people will die in cars KittyWampus Mar 2013 #139
the ultimate assholeishness behavior that "I can't wait for" regarding these glasses... Javaman Mar 2013 #29
Depends. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #31
Yes. in some situations a wearable display is useful... JHB Mar 2013 #38
HUD are fine, but this is not a HUD for driving... Javaman Mar 2013 #111
You're probably right. n/t lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #118
it's a good thing Google has also developed cars that drive themselves in traffic >>>> KittyWampus Mar 2013 #140
ooo, you maybe on to something... Javaman Mar 2013 #144
I'd say they've certainly found a human weakness and are exploiting it. KittyWampus Mar 2013 #145
Yes, they have found out that humans by nature are lazy. LOL nt Javaman Mar 2013 #146
All publicity is good publicity. n/tr lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #30
oddly, I thought the same ten years ago about people who hold phone conversations... mike_c Mar 2013 #32
If The SXSW Geeks Are Enthusiastic About It, It's Asshole Material. (nt) Paladin Mar 2013 #33
Remember Steve Martin's ''The Jerk''? Octafish Mar 2013 #36
That was the very first thing I thought of when I read about Google Glasses. onehandle Mar 2013 #42
LOLOLOLOL!!!!!!! Octafish Mar 2013 #53
"Glassholes" FTW!! KamaAina Mar 2013 #71
Bless you child, for this gift. Scuba Mar 2013 #77
Thread win. WilliamPitt Mar 2013 #55
"Opti" for your eyes, and "grab" for where you grab it. Iggo Mar 2013 #61
Yes, but you also have to be born a poor black child. Arkana Mar 2013 #66
In Mississippi. KamaAina Mar 2013 #72
Adverts Zoonart Mar 2013 #40
Google glasses. What you think you look like: Initech Mar 2013 #43
LOL! Google better start increasing their bribes to politicians. onehandle Mar 2013 #47
Yup. There's only one person who can effectively use an HUD and that's Iron Man! Initech Mar 2013 #50
Love it! Gidney N Cloyd Mar 2013 #62
As long as I get to call my glasses "Jarvis", I don't care. Arkana Mar 2013 #68
I think it's a pretty bad idea MynameisBlarney Mar 2013 #44
Simple solution, have the glasses equipped with bright flashing wig-wag lights and a ships klaxon, SayWut Mar 2013 #48
If you can't see well they will be marketed as Mr. McGoogle Glasses kairos12 Mar 2013 #49
Most everyone on this thread (including the writer of the article) make assumptions. randome Mar 2013 #51
Forcing employees to wear them so you can monitor their work habits? Sirveri Mar 2013 #136
I hope they protect the eyes from mace... bunnies Mar 2013 #56
No it wouldn't, because there will be versions out that look like regular glasses/sunglasses. stevenleser Mar 2013 #141
I'm going to start calling Google Glass wearers "Gargoyles"... backscatter712 Mar 2013 #57
'Glassholes' is the popular label online. nt onehandle Mar 2013 #58
Or in England, "Glarseholes" Blue Owl Mar 2013 #70
So now I have to pay for a "The Clockwork Orange" experience? Throd Mar 2013 #59
I'm pretty sure they're assholes whether they wear them or not. Iggo Mar 2013 #60
I give it one week before the first report of someone being shot for their glasses! n/t Jim.Rob58 Mar 2013 #64
$1500+ tech device on your exposed face. Good point. People have killed for far less. nt onehandle Mar 2013 #65
Or beaten to a pulp... skypilot Mar 2013 #112
And there'll be cheers here when it happens. (nt) Posteritatis Mar 2013 #134
What an embarrassing thread. Robb Mar 2013 #67
you beat me to it NewJeffCT Mar 2013 #75
resistance is futile..... bowens43 Mar 2013 #83
Haha. Apophis Mar 2013 #115
15 years ago NewJeffCT Mar 2013 #74
15 years ago people had an attention span beyond 3 seconds. Throd Mar 2013 #84
15 years ago? MadrasT Mar 2013 #92
it's not the use of those products in itself that makes an asshole JI7 Mar 2013 #128
And 15 years ago far fewer people died as a result of texting while driving. It's a societal problem KittyWampus Mar 2013 #143
this guy really is a moron..... probably still listens to a transistor radio.... bowens43 Mar 2013 #76
Too bad they're not iGlasses ... meegbear Mar 2013 #81
Google glasses arent going to last. darkangel218 Mar 2013 #82
For people like me who have brain damage, this might be helpful. sakabatou Mar 2013 #85
if you're serious- it depends. ceile Mar 2013 #89
I suppose it depends. backscatter712 Mar 2013 #94
That's what I'm talking about sakabatou Mar 2013 #95
face recognition would be terrific ceile Mar 2013 #102
Face recognition does get better all the time. backscatter712 Mar 2013 #147
A 3D map of a person's head? sakabatou Mar 2013 #148
Maybe. Computer vision is a hard problem. backscatter712 Mar 2013 #149
Man, if I had $1500 theKed Mar 2013 #88
If they let me shoot lasers out of my eyes, Arkana Mar 2013 #124
They work with Apple products. Everybody will think that they are Glassholes. nt onehandle Mar 2013 #125
Supposedly. theKed Mar 2013 #127
I've only recently recovered from the trauma involved with the demise of rotary dial phones. bike man Mar 2013 #91
I *really* want a rotary dial cellphone. (nt) Posteritatis Mar 2013 #135
you're not supposed to wear it to bars Enrique Mar 2013 #96
Why would I care if someone thought I was an asshole? I live around repubs, and many would say DeschutesRiver Mar 2013 #97
I'm with you. Tien1985 Mar 2013 #131
And then there's this... MattSh Mar 2013 #98
'Ok Glass, take a picture.' I predict an uptick in broken arms at strip clubs. nt onehandle Mar 2013 #101
The bluetooth cyborg ear thingies are bad enough. The goggles are just one more step. CosmicDustBunny Mar 2013 #100
Does it make the girls look better at closing time... WCGreen Mar 2013 #103
All technology is a double-edged sword Kelvin Mace Mar 2013 #104
well said. randome Mar 2013 #105
And how other people react to them might for them as well. (nt) Posteritatis Mar 2013 #133
But the slap bracelet watch sharp_stick Mar 2013 #107
k&r Liberal_in_LA Mar 2013 #114
Thank God Apple didn't invent it. LAGC Mar 2013 #116
I don't see what the fuss is all about. SamReynolds Mar 2013 #119
Some people think it is cool to rail against the latest tech. They think it makes them edgy stevenleser Mar 2013 #142
The author is such an Apple Fanboi that if they were iGlasses he would swoon for them ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #121
Wait Till Glasses Give Way To Contact Lenses colsohlibgal Mar 2013 #123
That Internet thing is just for losers living Shivering Jemmy Mar 2013 #126
Get used to it. Undetectable implants are coming soon. tridim Mar 2013 #129
Get ready for the eyePhone! backscatter712 Mar 2013 #132
$1500 onehandle Mar 2013 #138
At this point I think DU deserves a direct answer from you: Hosnon Mar 2013 #130
I used to be Google's #1 fan. But they have lost their way. onehandle Mar 2013 #137
 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
1. "Google is graciously allowing select geeks to purchase it early for $1,500, if they write them
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 11:41 AM
Mar 2013

an essay about why they deserve one." You can't make this up.

 

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
2. Does nobody see the irony of the definition?
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 11:44 AM
Mar 2013
developed a brilliantly concise definition of an asshole: "A person who demands that all social interaction happen on their terms."


So my social interaction needs to happen on YOUR terms, then, asshole?
 

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
6. It seemed pretty obvious on first read.
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 11:47 AM
Mar 2013

This guy doesn't like that other people define their social interaction the way they want rather than the way the author wants.

bananas

(27,509 posts)
113. Glaringly obvious.
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 03:25 PM
Mar 2013

I noticed the hypocrisy right away.
The author isn't just an asshole,
he's a hypocritical asshole.

 

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
18. That's not what that definition gets to.
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 12:03 PM
Mar 2013

That person wants to define an asshole by them not meeting their terms.

Are social norms always right? Do social norms never change? Are you pissed when people text you rather than calling and leaving a message?

TroglodyteScholar

(5,477 posts)
28. I make no claim that social norms are always right.
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 12:12 PM
Mar 2013

But there IS a place for them.

If I ask someone to call me and they text instead, depending on the circumstances, yes, I may be irritated. It's shows a wilful disregard.

This really boils down to two things in my mind: respect and privacy.

If you choose to interact with me in a way that, by definition, involves only giving me some small portion of your attention, that is disrespectful. Period. You, the asshole, are saying, "You're not worth my full attention."

If you approach me with a device on your face that may be recording me, analyzing me in order to identify me, sharing information about your interaction with me, etc...there is not even an opportunity for me to give consent. You, the asshole, are saying, "I don't give a shit whether you're comfortable with this."

MattBaggins

(7,904 posts)
15. Apple fanbois
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 11:58 AM
Mar 2013

now if this was a butt plug with an apple logo on it they would be singing it's praises and telling us how revolutionary it is.

petronius

(26,602 posts)
46. The key word there is "all" - an asshole demands "all" interactions occur on his/her
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 12:30 PM
Mar 2013

terms. The author doesn't make that demand (or any demand, really).

Of course, there probably are no (or very few) genuine assholes by a strict reading of that definition, so really there's a sliding scale of how close to "all" a person must be before they become an asshole. It's a nice conceptual definition, but not an operational one...

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
52. Why do we toss out insults so quickly?
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 12:38 PM
Mar 2013

It waters down the impact. Plus, the author's personal definition of what constitutes an asshole may not meet my high standards. Not everyone is fit to be titled "asshole." That's a prime insult!

To paraphrase a quote from the movie The Incredibles: "When everyone is an asshole, no one is an asshole."

sibelian

(7,804 posts)
106. Yeah....
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 02:26 PM
Mar 2013

See, probably what the writer thought was that people should model their social interaction on social terms rather than his alone. But if you insert a re-interpretation of his words into the discussion you can certainly make it *look* ironic, I guess.

Sheldon Cooper

(3,724 posts)
3. The creep factor of this is off the scale.
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 11:45 AM
Mar 2013

How can anyone think that normal people will be happy to talk to them while they're wearing these? 'Asshole' is a pretty good word for them.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
63. Creeper-glasses?
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 12:56 PM
Mar 2013

Imagine a pedophilic creeper wearing these, with a few illegal apps running on them, walking around a shopping mall, looking up the kids, while looking at the kids.

 

SamReynolds

(170 posts)
120. I watch TBBT on occasion.
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 05:01 PM
Mar 2013

Dr. Cooper would not for a moment find anything 'creepy' about someone wearing the internet in their glasses. In fact, I'm pretty sure he'd be the first in the group to wear a pair. Then he'd wonder why everyone was treating him 'strangely'.
 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
7. "Having a computer strapped to your face is the second-greatest geek dream after robot sex."
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 11:48 AM
Mar 2013

Nailed it.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
90. Bill Maher talked about this....
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 01:47 PM
Mar 2013

All those visions we had of robots doing household chores and rebelling and it turns out the Japanese have them saying, "Ooo! You so big! You monster!"

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
151. Nope.
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 05:26 PM
Mar 2013

People say no. People get tired. People may not be into the things you want to try. People talk. People get offended.

The geek dream of robot sex has less to do with "screwing a machine" than it has to do with screwing something that is 100% willing and subservient. It's fantasy sex, and the fantasy never says no. You'll never find a human (and SHOULD never find a human) that will do that.

Skittles

(153,164 posts)
11. gawd, people already look stupid fingering their handhelds
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 11:54 AM
Mar 2013

now they'll have the certified idiot glaze

 

SayWut

(153 posts)
54. Generation IV will look something like this,
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 12:40 PM
Mar 2013

and posses the same technology and special features via the preinstalled apps.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,047 posts)
117. And you get into the longest fistfight in history
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 03:49 PM
Mar 2013

if you refuse to wear them.

Just don't run out of chewing gum.

petronius

(26,602 posts)
109. Actually, you've gone a ways toward making me favor these things:
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 02:34 PM
Mar 2013

considering how frustrating it is to walk across campus and dodge students doing the 'eyes down texting stroll', at least with these they'll be looking up...

(But I will definitely share your urge to trip the oblivious, which I have to resist on a daily basis as it is. )

 

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
21. Don't think that is true
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 12:04 PM
Mar 2013

The Google woman who demos them in a video on YouTube has the device on a pair of glasses.

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
20. Is everybody going to go around in google glasses 5 years from now,
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 12:03 PM
Mar 2013

the way people currently go around finger-fucking their smartphones all over the place?

I'm not sure I like this idea.

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
24. "...finger-fucking their smartphones all over the place?"
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 12:09 PM
Mar 2013

you guys are killing me in this thread!

JBoy

(8,021 posts)
23. If you punched one of these glass-wearers in the face
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 12:08 PM
Mar 2013

Would the glass-wearer's video get uploaded to Youtube before the glasses broke?

That would be a useful feature.

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
25. There is going to a backlash against all this whiz-bang technology.
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 12:10 PM
Mar 2013

The main reason? It's becoming too much. Nobody wants to communicate with thousands of "friends" 24/7 about every piece of "breaking news."

Revanchist

(1,375 posts)
45. I wouldn't mind a google auto windshield
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 12:29 PM
Mar 2013

That can display your speed so you don't have to glance down, GPS, and traffic alerts. Sounds like a useful device to me.

 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
122. ...with Google ads for Valvoline along side of your oil light or Shell beside your fuel gadge. n/t
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 07:40 PM
Mar 2013

Javaman

(62,530 posts)
29. the ultimate assholeishness behavior that "I can't wait for" regarding these glasses...
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 12:13 PM
Mar 2013

people wearing them while driving.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
31. Depends.
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 12:17 PM
Mar 2013

It's arguably better than trying to interact with your gps interface.

Heads up displays are a feature.

JHB

(37,160 posts)
38. Yes. in some situations a wearable display is useful...
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 12:23 PM
Mar 2013

...but it's not being marketed for those situations.

Javaman

(62,530 posts)
111. HUD are fine, but this is not a HUD for driving...
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 02:43 PM
Mar 2013

It's a HUD for anything but driving.

It will be on the scale of those people who follow their GPS directions without paying attention to the actual road and wind up driving into a swamp.

The very last thing people will be doing is using it for driving.

Hell, every morning and afternoon during my commute, I can't even begin to tell you all the fools that text, read (news papers, books and iPads) yak endlessly on their phones and scarf down full course meals. All the while drifting all over the lane AND getting angry when someone has the temerity to blow their horn and wake them up.

No, the glasses will be a hell of a lot worse, hands down. They will be so focused on what ever display is up on the glasses (ebook, video game, and god knows what else) they will forget what the hell is right in front of them.

mike_c

(36,281 posts)
32. oddly, I thought the same ten years ago about people who hold phone conversations...
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 12:17 PM
Mar 2013

...in public, on cell phones. Now it's ubiquitous. I can't walk across campus without listening to people breaking up with their significant others or begging their mechanic/landlord/doctor/utility company to give them a break and let them make payments. Gee, we've come so far....

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
42. That was the very first thing I thought of when I read about Google Glasses.
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 12:28 PM
Mar 2013

When people start getting injured and worse by Glassholes, I expect 'Opti-Grab' type lawsuits to come quickly.



Zoonart

(11,868 posts)
40. Adverts
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 12:23 PM
Mar 2013

Just another way to have advertising in your field of vision 24/7. it can't be good for your brain to divide your attention constantly. It will confuse your synapses the same way 3D glasses screw up your rods and cones. Jeebus, people... stop diddling yourselves to death.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
47. LOL! Google better start increasing their bribes to politicians.
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 12:33 PM
Mar 2013

They will need protection like the GOPNRA got for guns to save them from the slew of lawsuits that will come.

MynameisBlarney

(2,979 posts)
44. I think it's a pretty bad idea
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 12:28 PM
Mar 2013

as far as privacy goes.

And as far as how it makes Glass users look?
Well...I seem to remember people being called "Bluetools" not that long ago.


 

SayWut

(153 posts)
48. Simple solution, have the glasses equipped with bright flashing wig-wag lights and a ships klaxon,
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 12:34 PM
Mar 2013

anytime the device is in a recording or picture taking mode.
Now you've been duly warned that your space, privacy is being violated and you can choose to opt out.

I'd put this device on a Segway, high expectations level of fail.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
51. Most everyone on this thread (including the writer of the article) make assumptions.
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 12:37 PM
Mar 2013

That only social networking in crowded cafes is how these can be used. But I see other uses. Hands-free recording while fixing a car engine for eventual upload to some DIY site. Hands-free recording of pollution cleanup efforts while keeping abreast of one's Twitter feed. Etc.

Many uses exist for these glasses. To focus on one aspect seems (pun) short-sighted.

Sirveri

(4,517 posts)
136. Forcing employees to wear them so you can monitor their work habits?
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 07:00 AM
Mar 2013

I'm not sure the potential for evil outweighs the benefit here... but maybe I'm just getting old...

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
56. I hope they protect the eyes from mace...
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 12:40 PM
Mar 2013

because thats exactly what would happen if that dude came at me. creep.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
141. No it wouldn't, because there will be versions out that look like regular glasses/sunglasses.
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 09:55 AM
Mar 2013

And that is what will make it into the mainstream.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
57. I'm going to start calling Google Glass wearers "Gargoyles"...
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 12:41 PM
Mar 2013

taking inspiration from Neal Stephenson's book Snow Crash.

Throd

(7,208 posts)
59. So now I have to pay for a "The Clockwork Orange" experience?
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 12:43 PM
Mar 2013

Thankfully, I'm not important enough to need this shit.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
75. you beat me to it
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 01:24 PM
Mar 2013

five years from now, something like Glass will be widely used and some people on DU will complain that people who wear them are rude, obnoxious, etc.

Me, I just think it's the next step towards the Borg-ification of our society. Resistance is Futile.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
74. 15 years ago
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 01:22 PM
Mar 2013

the same article could have been written about people with cellphones - "anybody that needs to have a phone with them 24/7 is an asshole... anybody that needs to carry a computer around in their pocket or purse all the time is an idiot and an asshole...anybody that needs 24/7 access to email is an asshole."

Throd

(7,208 posts)
84. 15 years ago people had an attention span beyond 3 seconds.
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 01:34 PM
Mar 2013

I'm not a Luddite. My career depends on computers, the internet and instant communications.

I believe the reason most people are voicing objections is that this will raise the obnoxious cellphone asshole to an even assholier stratum.

JI7

(89,250 posts)
128. it's not the use of those products in itself that makes an asshole
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 08:17 PM
Mar 2013

it's the ones who do it in a public in a certain way which makes them an asshole.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
143. And 15 years ago far fewer people died as a result of texting while driving. It's a societal problem
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 10:04 AM
Mar 2013

that is going to get even worse.

15 years ago many, many people still smoked. They still didn't care about global warming. They still wouldn't support gay marriage.

 

bowens43

(16,064 posts)
76. this guy really is a moron..... probably still listens to a transistor radio....
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 01:28 PM
Mar 2013

jump of your buggy and join us in the 21st century

meegbear

(25,438 posts)
81. Too bad they're not iGlasses ...
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 01:31 PM
Mar 2013

then they'd be the most awesome product ever (til the next most awesome product) and only an asshole wouldn't wear them.

Christ, do you shill for tobacco and oil companies too?

ceile

(8,692 posts)
89. if you're serious- it depends.
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 01:45 PM
Mar 2013

too much stimuli is a no-no for people w/ concussion, brain injury etc. this would need to be used very sparingly and certainly not during a recovery period.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
94. I suppose it depends.
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 01:53 PM
Mar 2013

I've never had brain damage, and I use my smartphone as my second brain.

For people with memory problems, this gadget could be useful for displaying reminders, looking up info, & such. Of course, set up in such a way that it's not counterproductive for those who can't handle the stimulus for medical reasons.

sakabatou

(42,152 posts)
95. That's what I'm talking about
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 01:56 PM
Mar 2013

For me, it isn't reminders, but navigation and face recognition. I would like to have those.

ceile

(8,692 posts)
102. face recognition would be terrific
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 02:09 PM
Mar 2013

Many people that have brain injuries have serious problems w/ face recognition. That could be extremely helpful to numerous populations I'd imagine.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
147. Face recognition does get better all the time.
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 01:35 PM
Mar 2013

Though I'm still having trouble getting my smartphone's face-unlock feature to work reliably - it recognizes my face when it's lit in specific ways, but if my face is lit the wrong way, or it's too dark for the camera, or I get a haircut, or I shave my stubble, it frequently fails.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
149. Maybe. Computer vision is a hard problem.
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 05:05 PM
Mar 2013

That picture your smartphone or glasses snaps and digitizes is nothing more than a long string of numbers to your computer, representing brightness values for a grid of pixels.

Then you've got to run some algorithms to try to derive meaning from those numbers. There's color-conversion, contrast-enhancement, noise mitigation, edge-detection, shape/feature recognition, translation rotation and scaling iterations, attempts to fit 2-d coordinate data into a 3-d representation to see how it compares to a reference image or data derived from it.

Not. easy. I have a computer science degree, and I've written code to make attempts at computer vision. The fact it works as well as it does is amazing.

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
124. If they let me shoot lasers out of my eyes,
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 08:04 PM
Mar 2013

I will run to my nearest electronic store, grab the first salesman I see by the lapels and scream "SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!"

 

bike man

(620 posts)
91. I've only recently recovered from the trauma involved with the demise of rotary dial phones.
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 01:47 PM
Mar 2013

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And now this.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
96. you're not supposed to wear it to bars
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 02:00 PM
Mar 2013

from the commercials it looks like it's mostly for skydiving and luging

DeschutesRiver

(2,354 posts)
97. Why would I care if someone thought I was an asshole? I live around repubs, and many would say
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 02:00 PM
Mar 2013

that they find that I "demand social interactions on my own wholly weird and unsettling terms" just because of the liberal positions I support that they find abhorrent and disgusting. So fucking what? So I'd say the same thing to this guy. This piece of tech can be highly useful, but all he is focusing on is him, him, him, him, did I say him?

He is presuming a lot about the person he is interacting with, and stupidly so. He is probably being filmed now without his permission and not having someone's full attention just due to other technology. I am not sure why this piece of tech bothers him so very much more. When he talks on a phone, the other party can be recording him, but I doubt if he calls them an asshole for owning a phone merely because it is capable of being turned on and used as a recording device. Really, if the person he interacts with is professional and polite, they won't be using their tech while talking with him, whether it is a hidden camera on his earpiece, a smartphone, google equipped glasses, a tablet, whatever.

If not, then he is just dealing with a person whose method of interacting is also one that I wouldn't stand for, and he needs to stop interacting with them. But he is saying that merely by owning, wearing or holding such a thing, that I am an asshole unless I quit doing it at his demand. Even if I am not using the equipment to which he objects.

That isn't going to happen. Why would I let someone else tell me what tech I can use? His problem is not with tech but with morons who want to both talk with him and do other things with their tech at the same time. Why he puts up with that is beyond me - I don't, no more than I put up with my conservative fundie neighbors telling me that this or that position that I hold makes me a jerk. Awww...poor things better stop talking to me!

This guy needs to rearrange who he does business or social things with to people who are not idiots. And that doesn't mean he has to deal only with those who own no technology. He just needs to quit giving those with whom he socially interacts permission to be distracted when they are with him. And if he matters enough to those people, they will stop that behavior.

The only thing that makes anyone an asshole in this scenario is if they force their tech views on someone else, which is what he is doing with his assumptions. Oops. Like someone would not buy something useful simply because someone else would apply peer pressure and call them names until they rejected some new piece of tech. I agree with a previous post that I also remember the first cell phones - heard a guy in the produce dept loudly asking his wife about something, looked and saw this giant thing in his hand. People thought it was just the rudest thing ever, and that there was no way this cell phone thing would be anything less than disastrous and that the detriments would definitely outweigh the benefits. I thought it was the coolest thing I'd ever seen and figured that like all else, we'd all figure out a way to minimize the detriments (with the exception of rude people), and that is how it did work out. I look forward to some way of getting info by looking out into thin air, and I am an older person who is happy that it is coming while I am still kicking (though, no, I don't need to do it at the same time that I am interacting in person with someone. And I still have a dumb phone). To each his own, I guess.

Tien1985

(920 posts)
131. I'm with you.
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 08:31 PM
Mar 2013

Why would I care if someone thinks I'm an asshole?

I bet he's one of those who doesn't get that people aren't UNintentionally ignoring him for their devices. If I want to talk to you, I'll put my phone/tablet/dongle down. If I didn't put it down... Take a fricken hint...

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
104. All technology is a double-edged sword
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 02:15 PM
Mar 2013

I can think of lots of uses i could put these glasses to in my daily life. But, there are also tons of way they can be abused.

Playing with radiation can lead to MRIs or bombs. A GPS can be used to spy on you, but is damned useful in helping people find you if you crashed your car someplace secluded. Antibiotics are life-saving, until they are misused. Computers are invaluable at stock trades, until someone figures out how to game the system. Scanners and printers are incredibly helpful in producing high quality documents, until someone decides to go into counterfeiting/forgery.

Wearing the glasses does not make you an asshole. What you do with them might.

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
107. But the slap bracelet watch
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 02:27 PM
Mar 2013

that's going to save Apple dammit, everyone buy the slap bracelet watch...pleeeeease.



LAGC

(5,330 posts)
116. Thank God Apple didn't invent it.
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 03:32 PM
Mar 2013

We'd all be hearing about how we're all assholes for NOT wearing one.

 

SamReynolds

(170 posts)
119. I don't see what the fuss is all about.
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 04:47 PM
Mar 2013

Is it like taking a calculator to a math quiz? So what if someone wants to carry around in internet link hand-free? They want to record me? I'm flattered! There is no way I behave when interacting with people that I would ever be personally ashamed of. I think the people that get all bent out of shape over someone having a normal conversation on a bluetooth are the ones with the filtering problem.

I don't ever see myself getting one, but if I wanted one why should I care about what some technophobe thinks about my using it? It's none of their business.
 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
142. Some people think it is cool to rail against the latest tech. They think it makes them edgy
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 10:01 AM
Mar 2013

or interesting. I'm old enough to where it just seems like the 10,000th retelling of the same joke.

"Anyone who gets a personal computer is an asshole"

"Anyone who needs a portable personal computer is an asshole"

"Anyone who needs to take their music around with them is an asshole"

"Anyone who wants a digital portable music device instead of a walkman is an asshole"

"Anyone who needs a tv bigger than 27" is an asshole"

"Anyone who needs a flat screen TV is an asshole"

"Anyone who needs a flat screen TV bigger than 27" is an asshole"

"Anyone who wants a smartphone is an asshole"
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etc. Again, not interesting or edgy. Just trite and predictable.

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
121. The author is such an Apple Fanboi that if they were iGlasses he would swoon for them
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 06:31 PM
Mar 2013

These devices are coming. Only a matter of time.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
123. Wait Till Glasses Give Way To Contact Lenses
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 08:03 PM
Mar 2013

It's coming - not too far off according to Michio Kaku - then we won't know who will have them.

Everyday life is changing faster and faster. Those who live long enough will eventually be a stranger in a strange land.

We're less than 40 years ahead of when most had 3/4 TV channels with no way to record them. Now - most of us can watch, with a couple of clicks, any of thousands of things and that's not even taking DVDs into account.

tridim

(45,358 posts)
129. Get used to it. Undetectable implants are coming soon.
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 08:18 PM
Mar 2013

I bet they will be more popular than cell phones.

Hosnon

(7,800 posts)
130. At this point I think DU deserves a direct answer from you:
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 08:18 PM
Mar 2013

Are you or are you not on Apple's payroll?

And quit hating innovation just because Apple didn't think of it.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
137. I used to be Google's #1 fan. But they have lost their way.
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 09:29 AM
Mar 2013

With backstabbing, theft, corruption, and collaboration with the feds to spy on Americans.

They are the top lobbyist from the tech sector. 10x anyone else in $.

You can go back a couple of years ago and find posts where I boosted them greatly.

This has nothing to do with Apple.

Mark my words, there will be a Huge public backlash against 'Glassholes,' who are online, at all times, logging and recording everything they look at, to be uploaded to the world's biggest data spy and ad spammer.

Google Glasses, btw, will be compatible with Apple products, so anyone can be a Glasshole.

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