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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums'If You Wear Google’s New Glasses You Are An Asshole'
Atlantic writer Ta-Nehisi Coates has developed a brilliantly concise definition of an asshole: "A person who demands that all social interaction happen on their terms." He was inspired by the assholes who talk in Amtrak's quiet car, but this reasoning also perfectly explains why those who use Google's new wearable computer are assholes, by definition.
Google Glass is the gadget all techies at South By Southwest are talking about this week. Glass is a wearable computer eye piece, which allows you to snap photos, read the news and do Google searches all while looking like an extra from the dance club scene in the Matrix. Glass is not yet publicly available, but Google is graciously allowing select geeks to purchase it early for $1,500, if they write them an essay about why they deserve one.
Glass has sparked much excitement and controversy. Having a computer strapped to your face is the second-greatest geek dream after robot sex. Critics have pointed out the privacy implications of Glass, for which one of the first apps is a program that lets you identify your friends in a crowd based only on what clothes they are wearing. A Seattle bar has already banned Glass, half in jest. Is Glass The Future of Computers or a Privacy Nightmare? I am not concerned with these questions. Instead I'm concerned with a much finer point: People who wear Google Glass in public are assholes.
Wearing Google Glass is functionally the same as living with a smart phone held constantly at eye-level. I've never seen it done, but I think most of us would be comfortable labeling anyone who walked around holding their smart phone at eye-level an asshole, and not just because it looks even stupider than Glass. The smartphone eye-level guy is an asshole because most of us 1) value the undistracted attention of those we're speaking to and 2) don't like to be filmed or photographed without our knowledge. If you come up to me with a smartphone held at eye level and demand that I interact with you like you're not being an asshole, you are an asshole. You are demanding social interaction on your wholly weird and unsettling terms. This does not change if the smartphone is tiny and strapped to your eye and made by Google. In fact, you thinking that this excuses your asshole behavior just makes you that much more of an asshole.
http://gawker.com/5990395/if-you-wear-googles-new-glasses-you-are-an-asshole
There is a growing groundswell to 'pre-ban' Google Glasses. Offices, Entertainment Venues, Restaurants, Courtrooms, Schools, more...
I think Google didn't think this through.
quinnox
(20,600 posts)an essay about why they deserve one." You can't make this up.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)So my social interaction needs to happen on YOUR terms, then, asshole?
Sheldon Cooper
(3,724 posts)Wow.
Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)This guy doesn't like that other people define their social interaction the way they want rather than the way the author wants.
randome
(34,845 posts)Calling anyone an asshole based on how they use technology is rather self-centered.
bananas
(27,509 posts)I noticed the hypocrisy right away.
The author isn't just an asshole,
he's a hypocritical asshole.
TroglodyteScholar
(5,477 posts)No place for social norms in your reasoning, huh?
Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)That person wants to define an asshole by them not meeting their terms.
Are social norms always right? Do social norms never change? Are you pissed when people text you rather than calling and leaving a message?
TroglodyteScholar
(5,477 posts)But there IS a place for them.
If I ask someone to call me and they text instead, depending on the circumstances, yes, I may be irritated. It's shows a wilful disregard.
This really boils down to two things in my mind: respect and privacy.
If you choose to interact with me in a way that, by definition, involves only giving me some small portion of your attention, that is disrespectful. Period. You, the asshole, are saying, "You're not worth my full attention."
If you approach me with a device on your face that may be recording me, analyzing me in order to identify me, sharing information about your interaction with me, etc...there is not even an opportunity for me to give consent. You, the asshole, are saying, "I don't give a shit whether you're comfortable with this."
MattBaggins
(7,904 posts)now if this was a butt plug with an apple logo on it they would be singing it's praises and telling us how revolutionary it is.
theKed
(1,235 posts)then proceed to sue anyone making products related to them
petronius
(26,602 posts)terms. The author doesn't make that demand (or any demand, really).
Of course, there probably are no (or very few) genuine assholes by a strict reading of that definition, so really there's a sliding scale of how close to "all" a person must be before they become an asshole. It's a nice conceptual definition, but not an operational one...
demwing
(16,916 posts)It waters down the impact. Plus, the author's personal definition of what constitutes an asshole may not meet my high standards. Not everyone is fit to be titled "asshole." That's a prime insult!
To paraphrase a quote from the movie The Incredibles: "When everyone is an asshole, no one is an asshole."
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)If we can't agree on the terms, I'm not obliged to socially interact with you.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)This tech makes assholes into "know it alls".
sibelian
(7,804 posts)See, probably what the writer thought was that people should model their social interaction on social terms rather than his alone. But if you insert a re-interpretation of his words into the discussion you can certainly make it *look* ironic, I guess.
bingo.
Sheldon Cooper
(3,724 posts)How can anyone think that normal people will be happy to talk to them while they're wearing these? 'Asshole' is a pretty good word for them.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)backscatter712
(26,355 posts)Imagine a pedophilic creeper wearing these, with a few illegal apps running on them, walking around a shopping mall, looking up the kids, while looking at the kids.
SamReynolds
(170 posts)Dr. Cooper would not for a moment find anything 'creepy' about someone wearing the internet in their glasses. In fact, I'm pretty sure he'd be the first in the group to wear a pair. Then he'd wonder why everyone was treating him 'strangely'.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)Nailed it.
robot sex is the geek fantasy that can't be topped.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)All those visions we had of robots doing household chores and rebelling and it turns out the Japanese have them saying, "Ooo! You so big! You monster!"
Victor_c3
(3,557 posts)I grew up a fat nerd. I know what I'm talking about.
Xithras
(16,191 posts)People say no. People get tired. People may not be into the things you want to try. People talk. People get offended.
The geek dream of robot sex has less to do with "screwing a machine" than it has to do with screwing something that is 100% willing and subservient. It's fantasy sex, and the fantasy never says no. You'll never find a human (and SHOULD never find a human) that will do that.
jpak
(41,758 posts)Skittles
(153,164 posts)now they'll have the certified idiot glaze
quinnox
(20,600 posts)wearing that contraption.
Skittles
(153,164 posts)no doubt they'll be tripping themselves
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)SayWut
(153 posts)and posses the same technology and special features via the preinstalled apps.
ThoughtCriminal
(14,047 posts)if you refuse to wear them.
Just don't run out of chewing gum.
petronius
(26,602 posts)considering how frustrating it is to walk across campus and dodge students doing the 'eyes down texting stroll', at least with these they'll be looking up...
(But I will definitely share your urge to trip the oblivious, which I have to resist on a daily basis as it is. )
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)There is a model that will allow folks who wear glasses to use them.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)The Google woman who demos them in a video on YouTube has the device on a pair of glasses.
Dreamer Tatum
(10,926 posts)Pathetic.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Throd
(7,208 posts)Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)In all seriousness onehandle, if you work for Apple, send me a PM because I need a job....
Quantess
(27,630 posts)the way people currently go around finger-fucking their smartphones all over the place?
I'm not sure I like this idea.
quinnox
(20,600 posts)you guys are killing me in this thread!
Arkana
(24,347 posts)"HIS POWER LEVEL...IT'S OVER 9000!"
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)JBoy
(8,021 posts)Would the glass-wearer's video get uploaded to Youtube before the glasses broke?
That would be a useful feature.
bowens43
(16,064 posts)reformist2
(9,841 posts)The main reason? It's becoming too much. Nobody wants to communicate with thousands of "friends" 24/7 about every piece of "breaking news."
bowens43
(16,064 posts)reformist2
(9,841 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)L0oniX
(31,493 posts)AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)Yes... and you though texting while driving was bad....
Revanchist
(1,375 posts)That can display your speed so you don't have to glance down, GPS, and traffic alerts. Sounds like a useful device to me.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)Javaman
(62,530 posts)people wearing them while driving.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)It's arguably better than trying to interact with your gps interface.
Heads up displays are a feature.
JHB
(37,160 posts)...but it's not being marketed for those situations.
Javaman
(62,530 posts)It's a HUD for anything but driving.
It will be on the scale of those people who follow their GPS directions without paying attention to the actual road and wind up driving into a swamp.
The very last thing people will be doing is using it for driving.
Hell, every morning and afternoon during my commute, I can't even begin to tell you all the fools that text, read (news papers, books and iPads) yak endlessly on their phones and scarf down full course meals. All the while drifting all over the lane AND getting angry when someone has the temerity to blow their horn and wake them up.
No, the glasses will be a hell of a lot worse, hands down. They will be so focused on what ever display is up on the glasses (ebook, video game, and god knows what else) they will forget what the hell is right in front of them.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)Javaman
(62,530 posts)it's all part of their master plan!
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)Javaman
(62,530 posts)lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)mike_c
(36,281 posts)...in public, on cell phones. Now it's ubiquitous. I can't walk across campus without listening to people breaking up with their significant others or begging their mechanic/landlord/doctor/utility company to give them a break and let them make payments. Gee, we've come so far....
Paladin
(28,262 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)It's like that.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)When people start getting injured and worse by Glassholes, I expect 'Opti-Grab' type lawsuits to come quickly.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)What a waste it is to lose one's lunch all over my keyboard.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Scuba
(53,475 posts)WilliamPitt
(58,179 posts)Iggo
(47,558 posts)Arkana
(24,347 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Zoonart
(11,868 posts)Just another way to have advertising in your field of vision 24/7. it can't be good for your brain to divide your attention constantly. It will confuse your synapses the same way 3D glasses screw up your rods and cones. Jeebus, people... stop diddling yourselves to death.
Initech
(100,079 posts)What you actually look like:
Any questions?
onehandle
(51,122 posts)They will need protection like the GOPNRA got for guns to save them from the slew of lawsuits that will come.
Initech
(100,079 posts)Gidney N Cloyd
(19,838 posts)Arkana
(24,347 posts)MynameisBlarney
(2,979 posts)as far as privacy goes.
And as far as how it makes Glass users look?
Well...I seem to remember people being called "Bluetools" not that long ago.
SayWut
(153 posts)anytime the device is in a recording or picture taking mode.
Now you've been duly warned that your space, privacy is being violated and you can choose to opt out.
I'd put this device on a Segway, high expectations level of fail.
kairos12
(12,862 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)That only social networking in crowded cafes is how these can be used. But I see other uses. Hands-free recording while fixing a car engine for eventual upload to some DIY site. Hands-free recording of pollution cleanup efforts while keeping abreast of one's Twitter feed. Etc.
Many uses exist for these glasses. To focus on one aspect seems (pun) short-sighted.
Sirveri
(4,517 posts)I'm not sure the potential for evil outweighs the benefit here... but maybe I'm just getting old...
bunnies
(15,859 posts)because thats exactly what would happen if that dude came at me. creep.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)And that is what will make it into the mainstream.
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)taking inspiration from Neal Stephenson's book Snow Crash.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)Blue Owl
(50,391 posts)n/t
Throd
(7,208 posts)Thankfully, I'm not important enough to need this shit.
Iggo
(47,558 posts)Jim.Rob58
(25 posts)onehandle
(51,122 posts)skypilot
(8,854 posts)...for walking into a public bathroom with them.
Posteritatis
(18,807 posts)Robb
(39,665 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)five years from now, something like Glass will be widely used and some people on DU will complain that people who wear them are rude, obnoxious, etc.
Me, I just think it's the next step towards the Borg-ification of our society. Resistance is Futile.
bowens43
(16,064 posts)Yep.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)the same article could have been written about people with cellphones - "anybody that needs to have a phone with them 24/7 is an asshole... anybody that needs to carry a computer around in their pocket or purse all the time is an idiot and an asshole...anybody that needs 24/7 access to email is an asshole."
Throd
(7,208 posts)I'm not a Luddite. My career depends on computers, the internet and instant communications.
I believe the reason most people are voicing objections is that this will raise the obnoxious cellphone asshole to an even assholier stratum.
MadrasT
(7,237 posts)I still think people like that are assholes.
JI7
(89,250 posts)it's the ones who do it in a public in a certain way which makes them an asshole.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)that is going to get even worse.
15 years ago many, many people still smoked. They still didn't care about global warming. They still wouldn't support gay marriage.
bowens43
(16,064 posts)jump of your buggy and join us in the 21st century
meegbear
(25,438 posts)then they'd be the most awesome product ever (til the next most awesome product) and only an asshole wouldn't wear them.
Christ, do you shill for tobacco and oil companies too?
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)After they see how many accidents they cause.
sakabatou
(42,152 posts)ceile
(8,692 posts)too much stimuli is a no-no for people w/ concussion, brain injury etc. this would need to be used very sparingly and certainly not during a recovery period.
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)I've never had brain damage, and I use my smartphone as my second brain.
For people with memory problems, this gadget could be useful for displaying reminders, looking up info, & such. Of course, set up in such a way that it's not counterproductive for those who can't handle the stimulus for medical reasons.
sakabatou
(42,152 posts)For me, it isn't reminders, but navigation and face recognition. I would like to have those.
ceile
(8,692 posts)Many people that have brain injuries have serious problems w/ face recognition. That could be extremely helpful to numerous populations I'd imagine.
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)Though I'm still having trouble getting my smartphone's face-unlock feature to work reliably - it recognizes my face when it's lit in specific ways, but if my face is lit the wrong way, or it's too dark for the camera, or I get a haircut, or I shave my stubble, it frequently fails.
sakabatou
(42,152 posts)All I want is a damn name to show up when I see a person.
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)That picture your smartphone or glasses snaps and digitizes is nothing more than a long string of numbers to your computer, representing brightness values for a grid of pixels.
Then you've got to run some algorithms to try to derive meaning from those numbers. There's color-conversion, contrast-enhancement, noise mitigation, edge-detection, shape/feature recognition, translation rotation and scaling iterations, attempts to fit 2-d coordinate data into a 3-d representation to see how it compares to a reference image or data derived from it.
Not. easy. I have a computer science degree, and I've written code to make attempts at computer vision. The fact it works as well as it does is amazing.
theKed
(1,235 posts)I'd buy a pair strictly *because* apple fanboys would think I'm an asshole.
Arkana
(24,347 posts)I will run to my nearest electronic store, grab the first salesman I see by the lapels and scream "SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!"
onehandle
(51,122 posts)theKed
(1,235 posts)To date, the only people calling them ass/glassholes are apple shills.
bike man
(620 posts)Last edited Fri Mar 15, 2013, 01:11 AM - Edit history (1)
And now this.
Posteritatis
(18,807 posts)Enrique
(27,461 posts)from the commercials it looks like it's mostly for skydiving and luging
DeschutesRiver
(2,354 posts)that they find that I "demand social interactions on my own wholly weird and unsettling terms" just because of the liberal positions I support that they find abhorrent and disgusting. So fucking what? So I'd say the same thing to this guy. This piece of tech can be highly useful, but all he is focusing on is him, him, him, him, did I say him?
He is presuming a lot about the person he is interacting with, and stupidly so. He is probably being filmed now without his permission and not having someone's full attention just due to other technology. I am not sure why this piece of tech bothers him so very much more. When he talks on a phone, the other party can be recording him, but I doubt if he calls them an asshole for owning a phone merely because it is capable of being turned on and used as a recording device. Really, if the person he interacts with is professional and polite, they won't be using their tech while talking with him, whether it is a hidden camera on his earpiece, a smartphone, google equipped glasses, a tablet, whatever.
If not, then he is just dealing with a person whose method of interacting is also one that I wouldn't stand for, and he needs to stop interacting with them. But he is saying that merely by owning, wearing or holding such a thing, that I am an asshole unless I quit doing it at his demand. Even if I am not using the equipment to which he objects.
That isn't going to happen. Why would I let someone else tell me what tech I can use? His problem is not with tech but with morons who want to both talk with him and do other things with their tech at the same time. Why he puts up with that is beyond me - I don't, no more than I put up with my conservative fundie neighbors telling me that this or that position that I hold makes me a jerk. Awww...poor things better stop talking to me!
This guy needs to rearrange who he does business or social things with to people who are not idiots. And that doesn't mean he has to deal only with those who own no technology. He just needs to quit giving those with whom he socially interacts permission to be distracted when they are with him. And if he matters enough to those people, they will stop that behavior.
The only thing that makes anyone an asshole in this scenario is if they force their tech views on someone else, which is what he is doing with his assumptions. Oops. Like someone would not buy something useful simply because someone else would apply peer pressure and call them names until they rejected some new piece of tech. I agree with a previous post that I also remember the first cell phones - heard a guy in the produce dept loudly asking his wife about something, looked and saw this giant thing in his hand. People thought it was just the rudest thing ever, and that there was no way this cell phone thing would be anything less than disastrous and that the detriments would definitely outweigh the benefits. I thought it was the coolest thing I'd ever seen and figured that like all else, we'd all figure out a way to minimize the detriments (with the exception of rude people), and that is how it did work out. I look forward to some way of getting info by looking out into thin air, and I am an older person who is happy that it is coming while I am still kicking (though, no, I don't need to do it at the same time that I am interacting in person with someone. And I still have a dumb phone). To each his own, I guess.
Tien1985
(920 posts)Why would I care if someone thinks I'm an asshole?
I bet he's one of those who doesn't get that people aren't UNintentionally ignoring him for their devices. If I want to talk to you, I'll put my phone/tablet/dongle down. If I didn't put it down... Take a fricken hint...
MattSh
(3,714 posts)Just a little humor everybody!
onehandle
(51,122 posts)CosmicDustBunny
(80 posts)WCGreen
(45,558 posts)Google Goggles...
I kid, I kid...
Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)I can think of lots of uses i could put these glasses to in my daily life. But, there are also tons of way they can be abused.
Playing with radiation can lead to MRIs or bombs. A GPS can be used to spy on you, but is damned useful in helping people find you if you crashed your car someplace secluded. Antibiotics are life-saving, until they are misused. Computers are invaluable at stock trades, until someone figures out how to game the system. Scanners and printers are incredibly helpful in producing high quality documents, until someone decides to go into counterfeiting/forgery.
Wearing the glasses does not make you an asshole. What you do with them might.
randome
(34,845 posts)Posteritatis
(18,807 posts)sharp_stick
(14,400 posts)that's going to save Apple dammit, everyone buy the slap bracelet watch...pleeeeease.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)LAGC
(5,330 posts)We'd all be hearing about how we're all assholes for NOT wearing one.
SamReynolds
(170 posts)Is it like taking a calculator to a math quiz? So what if someone wants to carry around in internet link hand-free? They want to record me? I'm flattered! There is no way I behave when interacting with people that I would ever be personally ashamed of. I think the people that get all bent out of shape over someone having a normal conversation on a bluetooth are the ones with the filtering problem.
I don't ever see myself getting one, but if I wanted one why should I care about what some technophobe thinks about my using it? It's none of their business.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)or interesting. I'm old enough to where it just seems like the 10,000th retelling of the same joke.
"Anyone who gets a personal computer is an asshole"
"Anyone who needs a portable personal computer is an asshole"
"Anyone who needs to take their music around with them is an asshole"
"Anyone who wants a digital portable music device instead of a walkman is an asshole"
"Anyone who needs a tv bigger than 27" is an asshole"
"Anyone who needs a flat screen TV is an asshole"
"Anyone who needs a flat screen TV bigger than 27" is an asshole"
"Anyone who wants a smartphone is an asshole"
.
.
.
etc. Again, not interesting or edgy. Just trite and predictable.
ProgressiveProfessor
(22,144 posts)These devices are coming. Only a matter of time.
colsohlibgal
(5,275 posts)It's coming - not too far off according to Michio Kaku - then we won't know who will have them.
Everyday life is changing faster and faster. Those who live long enough will eventually be a stranger in a strange land.
We're less than 40 years ahead of when most had 3/4 TV channels with no way to record them. Now - most of us can watch, with a couple of clicks, any of thousands of things and that's not even taking DVDs into account.
Shivering Jemmy
(900 posts)In their parent's basement. It will never catch on.
tridim
(45,358 posts)I bet they will be more popular than cell phones.
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)onehandle
(51,122 posts)Hosnon
(7,800 posts)Are you or are you not on Apple's payroll?
And quit hating innovation just because Apple didn't think of it.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)With backstabbing, theft, corruption, and collaboration with the feds to spy on Americans.
They are the top lobbyist from the tech sector. 10x anyone else in $.
You can go back a couple of years ago and find posts where I boosted them greatly.
This has nothing to do with Apple.
Mark my words, there will be a Huge public backlash against 'Glassholes,' who are online, at all times, logging and recording everything they look at, to be uploaded to the world's biggest data spy and ad spammer.
Google Glasses, btw, will be compatible with Apple products, so anyone can be a Glasshole.