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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsEd's interview with Scott Prouty is an incredible, incredible piece of work.
I had interesting fantasies about who made that 47% tape, but to my humble embarrassment I did not expect this quiet, humble, smart and compassionate man. If Mitt Romney had an iota of a chance left of holding office, it is gone.
If you aren't watching it now, I encourage you to catch it later. It's riveting.
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)nolabear
(41,984 posts)And he did things beautifully. I admire him tremendously.
Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)I was absolutely struck by another thing, while watching the clip of the tape without the background obscured.
The event staff, while listening to the horrible remarks Mittens was spewing about people he could never understand, seemed to be acting with absolute professionalism. The were all rushing around, filling glasses, removing tableware, and basically doing the jobs they were being paid to do.
Exactly what I would expect. I love that Mr. Prouty did his best to protect them. He is a hero.
riverwalker
(8,694 posts)kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)Watergate? Two ordinary citizens doing their job and they both changed the course of history. The poor Watergate guy lost his job, never could find employment and I think ended up in a very bad way. I hope this doesn't happen to Mr. Prouty.
fishwax
(29,149 posts)malaise
(269,022 posts)the Iraq war.
I can't wait to hear the Twiright zone morons.
pkdu
(3,977 posts)malaise
(269,022 posts)Cary
(11,746 posts)I knew this was bad but the whole thing about the employees is e engage worse. Romney is scum.
Yes Romney should start a new business in every place where be closed one down.
randome
(34,845 posts)This tarnishes ALL Republicans! That should be the message we take from this!
JHB
(37,160 posts)Last edited Thu Mar 14, 2013, 10:00 AM - Edit history (1)
How many of them think of themselves as smart investors? Yet not one of them called bullshit on Mitt's numbers.
Certainly GOPTV ...er, FOX... treated those numbers as if they bore some relationship to reality. And the Teabaggers, whose reaction was "hell, yeah, that's elaxcy rigth!"
Republicans who do not subscribe to the Romney / tea bagger / Reaganomics / Paulist / racist line of dogma, should take a public stand and refute this. Who will be the first GOPer to stand up?
HoosierRadical
(390 posts)I can't think of one Republican who doesn't fall into one of those categories.
myrna minx
(22,772 posts)This man is just amazing.
pscot
(21,024 posts)The Medal of Freedom or some such. Have a big Whitehouse Ceremony. It would completely unhinge the Republicans.
nolabear
(41,984 posts)I suspect there's going to be some major shit coming his way.
Left Coast2020
(2,397 posts)And these kind of people are normally dim-bulbs when it comes to doing retaliatory kind of things. I suspect he is prepared and ready for anything.
They're already far too unhinged. And we already had the big ceremony - it was called the inauguration!
randome
(34,845 posts)klebean
(284 posts)Very impressed w/Mr. Scott Prouty. As I listened to him, his integrity and ability to maintain perspective and focus to his ideals moved me. Humanity is not lost when individuals like this live, and take action when action needs to be taken.
randome
(34,845 posts)nolabear
(41,984 posts)Benton D Struckcheon
(2,347 posts)Didn't even occur to me that he would be a target if anyone found out who he was. I hope Kernaghan or someone else can take care of him. He's going to need some help for a while.
Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)lastlib
(23,239 posts)"All that is necessary for the forces of good to triumph is for one good man to do the right thing."
Sanity Claws
(21,849 posts)I'm glad to hear that Scott left such a good impression. Those plutocrats really underestimate the intelligence of the persons who serve them.
reformist2
(9,841 posts)jzola
(158 posts)loudsue
(14,087 posts)And the best reason in the world that the wealthy should NOT be revered, as the republicans do.
montanacowboy
(6,089 posts)courage, integrity, well spoken, intelligent - thoughtful - A Real American Hero
mimi85
(1,805 posts)is the definition of what it means to be a hero.
bigdarryl
(13,190 posts)Left Coast2020
(2,397 posts)GO For It Scotty!!!!
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)librechik
(30,674 posts)Cha
(297,274 posts)run off by members who thought it was a fake.
thanks for this report on Scott Prouty, nolabear
nolabear
(41,984 posts)My mouth dropped open. The lack of compassion and the selling of the idea that dorms and horrific hours and barbed wire had the same effect on me that it had on Scott Prouty. He just had the amazing sense to hit that record button.
riverwalker
(8,694 posts)Back in the spring/summer pre-election obsession I read everything on DU everyday. I remember that China part of the video would be posted, then sink, posted and sunk again and again. He was determined.
jbnow
(3,660 posts)he posted as anneonymous670
The clips had some strong defenders but got too many troll/hide ratings that I think he was automatically blocked
BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)Then again, treating people like shit after trashing them to their face was always one of his specialties. Amazing that this same guy got the exact opposite treatment from Bill Clinton. Not that Bill was a good guy, of course, just that the same server could make the in-person comparison and have such an impact afterwards.
Mira
(22,380 posts)a great coup for Ed, well done.
He possibly changed history, and he knows it.
Now Ed tells us he is leaving the 8 pm slot and goes to 2 hours on Sat night, and 2 on Sunday night. He wants to go out and be with the people instead of in a studio every day.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)This tape, and the dog incident really tells you who he is. Anybody have any idea where the dancing horse Rafalca is? There seems to be no information on this animal since August of 2012. Has she become dog food and glue? I would not put this past the Romneys now that the horse did not win top place at the Olympics and is no longer of any use to them.
BVictor1
(229 posts)Looks like MSNBC will be expanding it's coverage.
In April Ed will move to weekends at 5pm-7pm.
AAO
(3,300 posts)ZRT2209
(1,357 posts)SunSeeker
(51,559 posts)Ed will be a nice addition to the weekend afternoon programming to counter the crap blaring out of Fox.
dawnie51
(959 posts)by the same part of the tape that got me; the Chinese girls locked in the factory, 3 to a stack, living in hell. Romney was so calm and casual about relating it too; I thought, my God, that's what he wants for us, what he has worked through Bain to get us to. He is dangerous, and Scott Prouty saw that too.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)Zambero
(8,964 posts)Plus room and board. After all, Mitt claimed that the barbed wire fence and guard towers around the facility were to keep others OUT so they would not compete for the precious jobs. Now that's work ethic! If only whiney American workers would stop complaining about stuff like living wages, adequate health care, and decent working conditions, and just do their jobs, like those dedicated Chinese.
Manifestor_of_Light
(21,046 posts)I'm barely old enough to remember when they put it up.
The East Germans said it was there to keep people OUT from West Germany, because East Germany was such a worker's paradise that people from West Germany would love to live there........uh huh.
Hint: Any country whose name has "Democratic" in it probably is NOT.
Example:The German Democratic Republic, official name of the former East Germany.
riverwalker
(8,694 posts)and let him know we have his back.
@AnneOnymous670
ailsagirl
(22,897 posts)Liberal In Texas
(13,554 posts)Just wow.
ailsagirl
(22,897 posts)Peregrine Took
(7,414 posts)Its in the David Corn article. Her car was submerged in a pond and she was unconscious. He cut her seat belt and carried her up to the surface and then dove back to be sure there were no children in the back seat.
The guy is incredible and if the Dems don't grab him and talk him into running for Congress they are insane.
BattyDem
(11,075 posts)He did what he thought was right and he did it for all of us.
nineteen50
(1,187 posts)power to the people.
nolabear
(41,984 posts)Hekate
(90,708 posts)The thing with the factory girls in China apparently struck Prouty to his core on more than one level.
When DH gets home from work tonight I am going to make a point of having him watch Ed at 8pm. Scott Prouty is my new American hero.
Hekate
arthritisR_US
(7,288 posts)nolabear
(41,984 posts)I'm actually a little choked up.
Hekate
(90,708 posts)... shake his hand and pose for a photo with the hired help! We are ALL so unbelievably LUCKY that Scott Prouty was there that night.
Hekate
nolabear
(41,984 posts)Indykatie
(3,696 posts)Better yet, wonder if someone will set up Paypal for him. His employment opportunities may suffer now that his identity is known.
nolabear
(41,984 posts)We'll see what happens, but I hope he is strong and survives it all well.
Hekate
(90,708 posts)As for work, it sounds like he may have something lined up.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)He says taking money would compromise the message.
jbnow
(3,660 posts)someone started for Colbert after the bush dinner
Wish I knew how
But THANK YOU Scott Prouty!
amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)He didn't admit it, but I could picture exactly who he was. No surprises here
I sent an email to Ed because many wanted to make a contribution. Sorry to say no answer yet
Indykatie
(3,696 posts)nolabear
(41,984 posts)He deserves it.
amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)He refused money for the interviews. He is correct; taking money would provide ammunition for critics.
amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)between getting paid for an interview from a show and showing appreciation by an audience
grasswire
(50,130 posts)If someone wants to honor him, donate to the ACLU in his name.
amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)It's a thank you. Lots of people on Huffington are looking for a way to donate to him.
We are just discussing it, if you don't mind
grasswire
(50,130 posts)Things can go bad. Very, very bad.
amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)Thanks for your concern..
AnotherMother4Peace
(4,246 posts)BillyJack
(819 posts)nolabear
(41,984 posts)jehop61
(1,735 posts)anytime on the old msnbc.com website
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)You know the Glenn Becks and Rushes and Seans are going to rile up that well armed bunch of "lone gunmen" to kill him!
nolabear
(41,984 posts)Cast them far enough and yeah, I guess someone could be dangerous. I hope the Dems give him the massive support he deserves and might need.
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)and find every ex lover he had.
DBoon
(22,366 posts)ZRT2209
(1,357 posts)SCVDem
(5,103 posts)Good work sir!
mrsadm
(1,198 posts)In This gentleman.
GP6971
(31,163 posts)Very well spoken young man. OK. I admit I 'm older
mr clean
(170 posts)I am so glad he found someone who would listen to him and then run with it.... boy did grandson Carter run!
ZRT2209
(1,357 posts)How long before the right starts inventing wild conspiracy theories that he's a secret Muslim anchor baby Communist Black Panther Black Liberation Theologist Alinskyite?
nolabear
(41,984 posts)Not too shabby so far!
Politicub
(12,165 posts)Prouty demonstrated remarkable courage to expose the GOP's true face.
DianaForRussFeingold
(2,552 posts)ailsagirl
(22,897 posts)nolabear
(41,984 posts)Wish that darned Pope hadn't been elected today. This would be the first thing on everyone's lips otherwise.
malaise
(269,022 posts)That should be interesting
nolabear
(41,984 posts)They'll have an attack dog do it for them. O'Reilly will be dismissive, Hannity will be sarcastic, Limbaugh...oh brother...
malaise
(269,022 posts)nolabear
(41,984 posts)UTUSN
(70,700 posts)COORACPRO
(12 posts)Scott is a trueAmerican hero, makes me proud to be an American.
Warpy
(111,267 posts)because that's who can put a camera in a secure position where it won't be bumped or moved. Wait staff would have had a much harder time of it and kitchen staff would have been hidden away.
madamesilverspurs
(15,805 posts)nolabear
(41,984 posts)WOuld love to put it on FB.
madamesilverspurs
(15,805 posts)SwankyXomb
(2,030 posts)if they make a movie out of his story.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)They actually do heroic things rather than just spout off at political rallies.
summerschild
(725 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,173 posts)"God put us on top to rule the masses" is something
the 19th Century Robber Barons would have pompously said.
It's a basic incongruity in Republican ideology, from William Sumner's time.
And Mitt the Corporate Raider was the Poster Child for
125 years of Christian Social Darwinism. It was a cover story for exploitation
just like Lincoln's freedom, which promoted the northern manufacturer and
railroad interests.
I recommend taking a look at Thoman DeLorenzo's book on Lincoln.
___________________
"... Sumner's short book, What Social Classes Owe to Each Other, which was first published in 1884, when the author was in his early 40s, "would
earn him a reputation as the Gilded Age's leading 'social Darwinist,'"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Graham_Sumner
JI7
(89,250 posts)i missed the first few minutes but will watch it during a repeat or online. i could watch the whole thing again.
nolabear
(41,984 posts)And I worry a little about the deconstruction that will inevitably happen. Best to see for myself.
AsahinaKimi
(20,776 posts)Predicted he will probably be slammed by the right wing media. I am sure he is right, as that is their M.O. Romney blamed the media, and most likely the Right Wing media will come after him. Its great he got on Ed's show first.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,174 posts)He's on their shit list. They will be compelled to smear him.
An elephant never forgets. Especially old angry ones chained to the ground by their own propaganda in a tiny tent.
moondust
(19,986 posts)Where the Chinese told Romney the fence around the place was to keep people out.
That's what the East European communists used to say about the Berlin wall.
Whisp
(24,096 posts)I wish him all the best, he certainly deserves it.
ailsagirl
(22,897 posts)Hamlette
(15,412 posts)and I'm not a huge Ed fan so its saying a lot from me.
Iwillnevergiveup
(9,298 posts)This was really a thing of beauty to watch. When Scott challenged himself not to be a coward, I was so, so moved. What he's done is nothing less than heroic - would be great to see him and David Corn co-author a book.
On edit: that was one of the fastest hours of my life, even with all the commercials.
Cha
(297,274 posts)posted and I totally agree with you, nolabear. I was mesmerized.. all the history that went into it up until tonight. And, then we had the man himself who gave us the gift of Light on the 1 %er behind closed doors.. lying and talking trash about Americans to his big greedy donors.
Talking about his plant in China that makes small appliances and how inhumanly the workers are treated but he was so Impressed! Not sure if fiction could ever come up with such a horrible human being. No wonder Scott Prouty thought it was his responsibility to release this tape. That sucker could have been in the White House.
malaise
(269,022 posts)this scoop.
DeeDeeNY
(3,355 posts)He is amazingly brave but the right wing smear machine can be vicious
Berlum
(7,044 posts)...against the Republican onslaught against all things decent and honorable.
stuffmatters
(2,574 posts)He's just so egoless and so smart. I'd never heard anyone connect that story Romney regaled his donors with about the Chinese
Women in the Slave Factory and the fact that Romney and Bain were so impressed with the conditions that they BOUGHT the factory!
Loved too his hopes for Romney having a moral aha moment towards the end of the interview...that maybe someday Romney would understand how sick both his worldview and the Bain business model are, that he might actually go back to some of these town that Bain destroyed and use his ill gotten wealth to start factories that create real products rather than debt, employ workers rather than looting their retirement and health funds and build communities rather than destroy them. Fat chance but certainly poignant he said it.
Yes I'd sure contribute to his campaign if he ran for office.
southmost
(759 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)It was an amazing interview.
TBF
(32,062 posts)you can tell he is an introvert who is uncomfortable with the attention on himself. He's not only very smart but also compassionate and I'd love to see him get that spot in law school. We need more like him.
Jade Fox
(10,030 posts)As I'm sure most of you know by now, in 2005 Scott Prouty saved a woman whose car went into the drink in FL.
xxqqqzme
(14,887 posts)It was so amazing. Prouty is so sincere, compelling and determined.