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redqueen

(115,103 posts)
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 11:35 AM Mar 2013

Things I’ve Learned From Writing Under A Gender-Neutral Name

This is one of the best things I've read all year. Someone posted a link in the giant thread about how bad men have it and how we women just don't understand. I clicked the link and read it after the thread was locked, and I searched but didn't find it again, so a hat tip to whoever posted this. Thank you!

(UPDATE: That hat tip goes to Tien1985, my new favorite DUer! )


He so brilliantly describes what is so losthesome about Katy Perry. I think I'm in love.

(To any potential jurors, please note he is not using certain terms to insult. He is referring to them in a discussion about their use and impact, thanks.)


Things I’ve Learned From Writing Under A Gender-Neutral Name
MAR. 3, 2013
By NICO LANG

...

But the comment I get more often than any other is people questioning my gender — which I often don’t make explicit. At first it wasn’t a conscious decision, but as someone who dabbles in dating columns, I noticed that respondents would automatically assume that I was female. They would look at my name, which could go either way on the gender divide, and check the female box every single time. Even in pieces where I did briefly bring up the fact of my assigned sex, the comment board would somehow miss that part. Any fact that didn’t support the discourse of my femaleness would be left out, not part of the dominant narrative of my gender.

...

This sort of thing happens to me all the time on the internet. When I’m writing a dating piece, commenters automatically assume that I’m a woman. If I’m writing on the Women’s section on Huffington Post, that makes sense to me—because the title of the section interpellates my gender. However, on Thought Catalog, my columns give the reader no marker by which to assume my gender, yet it’s projected onto my work in telling ways. That readers assume a dating columnist would be female isn’t a shock, because society tells us that women are supposed to be the only ones that obsess over a relationship and analyze everything to death.

...

But this question should be equally insulting to heterosexual couples, as it assumes total masculinity and total femininity. Being the “man” and the “woman” reaffirms limiting power hierarchies that we should be problematizing. We should be challenging what those terms mean and building a society where femininity is seen as strong and positive. We should all want to be the woman. Who wants to live in a society where little girls will grow up being ashamed of their gender and learning to hate other women, in order to externalize their own self-hatred? When we ask women to tear each other down, it’s because we’re asking them to be punished. It’s that Eve bullshit all over again.

...

Interestingly, the only time that my maleness comes into play is when respondents dismiss me because of my perceived sexuality. I interchangeably call myself bi- or pansexual, which really just means that application is open to all (especially Christina Hendricks), but my queerness usually gets coopted by the binary. I’m never silenced for being a “heterosexual male” but a “faggot” —another marker of feminization.

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http://thoughtcatalog.com/2013/things-ive-learned-from-writing-under-a-gender-neutral-name/
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Things I’ve Learned From Writing Under A Gender-Neutral Name (Original Post) redqueen Mar 2013 OP
+1 I just went over to HuffPo to read some of Nico Lang's other writing... Little Star Mar 2013 #1
Glad you liked it! redqueen Mar 2013 #2
Hey redqueen! Tien1985 Mar 2013 #11
OMG THANK YOU!!!! redqueen Mar 2013 #12
Fascinating article BainsBane Mar 2013 #3
He captures so much, so well. redqueen Mar 2013 #6
That was great. Thanks! Luminous Animal Mar 2013 #4
LIKE! MuseRider Mar 2013 #5
10th DU Rec. Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2013 #7
K&R Solly Mack Mar 2013 #8
This is awesome ismnotwasm Mar 2013 #9
Part of this is due to our language "not working well" without knowing/assigning a gender. RadiationTherapy Mar 2013 #10
That only applies to the last paragraph, about the assignment. redqueen Mar 2013 #13
Yeah, but I wanted to add something other than that, hahaha. RadiationTherapy Mar 2013 #20
I'm not convinced by the central premise - I don't think Nico is gender neutral. Donald Ian Rankin Mar 2013 #14
I know two men named Nico and no women named Nico. Luminous Animal Mar 2013 #15
Neko Case... TeeYiYi Mar 2013 #21
That was nice. I meant Nico as spelled. And personally. Luminous Animal Mar 2013 #24
And in the Romance Languages, nouns ending in "o" Ms. Toad Mar 2013 #16
You don't see it much at all in the US. Spider Jerusalem Mar 2013 #22
A friend and his Japanese wife named their daughter Nico. They told me it means tblue37 Mar 2013 #23
Most excellent jumping off spot libodem Mar 2013 #17
I agree, so much gender role conditioning... redqueen Mar 2013 #18
I really did libodem Mar 2013 #19

Little Star

(17,055 posts)
1. +1 I just went over to HuffPo to read some of Nico Lang's other writing...
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 11:54 AM
Mar 2013

good stuff.

Thanks for this RQ!

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
2. Glad you liked it!
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 12:07 PM
Mar 2013

I hope the person who linked it posts here so I can credit them for sharing it here.

Tien1985

(920 posts)
11. Hey redqueen!
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 02:34 PM
Mar 2013

I linked it in the now-dead thread

Thanks for reposting, I thought it was a good read and deserved some more discussion.

BainsBane

(53,056 posts)
3. Fascinating article
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 12:54 PM
Mar 2013

There is so much to note in it. I particularly liked this passage: "Being the “man” and the “woman” reaffirms limiting power hierarchies that we should be problematizing. We should be challenging what those terms mean and building a society where femininity is seen as strong and positive. We should all want to be the woman. Who wants to live in a society where little girls will grow up being ashamed of their gender and learning to hate other women, in order to externalize their own self-hatred?"

Gender norms limit men as well; they restrict their ability to be full, emotionally expressive human beings. While those norms can likewise create a subconscious self-loathing on the part of women.

RadiationTherapy

(5,818 posts)
10. Part of this is due to our language "not working well" without knowing/assigning a gender.
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 02:29 PM
Mar 2013

Another part is that (based on the research of Whorf, Sapir, and Korzybski) the language we use conditions our reality. The combination of our language being "clumsy" when gender is not assigned and the notion that the language we use shapes the universe we observe work synergetically to manifest in many of the issues in your excerpt. To address this, it seems we would need to rigorously reform the syntactic structure of English (and the Romance languages and possibly several others, etc).

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
14. I'm not convinced by the central premise - I don't think Nico is gender neutral.
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 03:14 PM
Mar 2013

I've only ever seen it used by women. Even if it's ambiguous, I don't think it goes as far as neutral.

TeeYiYi

(8,028 posts)
21. Neko Case...
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 10:19 PM
Mar 2013

... Prison Girls:



Where am I tonight, la da da
My hotel room won't remember me
And this dream will die
Die by morning
And this dream will not remember me

Wakened by a droning voice
I love your long shadows and your gunpowder eyes
Is it a lady or is it a man
Humming helicopters through the blades of a fan
I love your long shadows and your gunpowder eyes
I love your long shadows and your gunpowder eyes

On my feet to chase it down
A light switch spooks and runs away
I stumble back and hit the floor
Long shadows crawl beneath the door
To a passage so poorly lit
There's moths flying away from it

Oh oh oh oh oh

Who am I tonight, la da da
My hotel room won't remember me
Darkness
Enter prison girls
Pushing mops and kicking pails
Now's my chance
I clasp my chest
And declare unto my audience
I love your long shadows and your gunpowder eyes
I love your long shadows and your gunpowder eyes

Prison girls are not impressed
They're the ones who have to clean this mess
They've traded more for cigarettes
Than I've managed to express

Oh oh oh oh oh

Filing past miles along
My cheek is frozen
To the floor
The prison girls have filled their beds
Their socks to dry above their heads
I wear them in the morning

I love your long shadows and your gunpowder eyes



TYY
 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
22. You don't see it much at all in the US.
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 10:33 PM
Mar 2013

It isn't a name Americans use. I think of it as unambiguously masculine. Every person I can think of called "Nico" is male (with the sole exception of the Nico known for collaborating with the Velvet Underground; her real name was Christina, though); it's a shortened form of "Nicholas/Nicolas".

tblue37

(65,483 posts)
23. A friend and his Japanese wife named their daughter Nico. They told me it means
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 11:08 PM
Mar 2013

"smiling" in Japanese.

libodem

(19,288 posts)
17. Most excellent jumping off spot
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 04:12 PM
Mar 2013

For a good solid discussion on gender and gender identity. Thanks RQ. I think a lot of this is learned 'roles' apart from our essence, the part of us that is aware or our own consciousness, which is neither male nor female.

I spent a bit of time in my twenties thinking about being an androgenous being, all in all.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
18. I agree, so much gender role conditioning...
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 06:01 PM
Mar 2013

And while a good (and growing) number of people nowadays just don't care what the 'norms' are, it still is internalized by far too many and causes so much pain and misery.

Glad you liked it!

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