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spanone

(135,877 posts)
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 09:49 PM Mar 2013

tennessee again: Toddler shoots himself in the head, police say

MANCHESTER, Tenn. (AP) — Police in Manchester say a 3-year-old toddler accidentally shot himself in the head with a relative’s gun, but was listed in stable condition at a Nashville hospital.

According to WSMV-TV, Police were called to a home on Woodcrest Drive around 7 p.m. on Saturday night. Detectives said that the child, who has not been identified, was at home with his mother and his aunt when his aunt pulled out a gun.

Police said the toddler got the weapon and shot himself in the head, and the bullet penetrated the skull and exited.

He was conscious as he was flown to Vanderbilt University Medical Center and was listed in stable condition, according to the TV station.

http://www.tennessean.com/article/20130310/NEWS/303100095/Toddler-shoots-himself-head-police-say

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tennessee again: Toddler shoots himself in the head, police say (Original Post) spanone Mar 2013 OP
Sad Bay Boy Mar 2013 #1
Arrest the relative malaise Mar 2013 #2
agree 100% spanone Mar 2013 #4
But prescription drugs and household cleaning chemicals are not Guns. 2ndAmForComputers Mar 2013 #7
Isn't that the truth? malaise Mar 2013 #21
WTF! How did he get the gun? Someone needs to be held accountable. Arkansas Granny Mar 2013 #3
Where was the mythical "good baby with a gun" when we needed him? BlueStreak Mar 2013 #5
Why did the aunt pull out the gun to begin with? Terra Alta Mar 2013 #6
That's a good question - and I can't think of any answer that should petronius Mar 2013 #20
Because there is none. AngryOldDem Mar 2013 #22
This is so scary union_maid Mar 2013 #8
Yes, guns are dangerous pipoman Mar 2013 #19
Actually, I have no doubt that pools are very dangerous union_maid Mar 2013 #23
Millions of kids/families participate in shooting sports and hunting with no ill effects... pipoman Mar 2013 #24
"tennessee again" - what is that supposed to mean, exactly? jazzimov Mar 2013 #9
it is my home and the home of republican rule..guns in bars...guns in the trunk spanone Mar 2013 #10
Thank you for adding this info. jazzimov Mar 2013 #12
And an enormous amount of resources goes to make up for the criminal stupidity and neglect NBachers Mar 2013 #11
Some have suggested gun owners' insurance Union Scribe Mar 2013 #13
my friends wife was life flighted from bon aqua tenn to nashville..$15,000.00...42 miles spanone Mar 2013 #17
Quick, gun lovers! Better hurry to take away this child's rights! ThatPoetGuy Mar 2013 #14
FAIL on so many levels Skittles Mar 2013 #15
OMG I live in Manchester! I must turn on the news. asjr Mar 2013 #16
Another responsible gun owner. SheilaT Mar 2013 #18

malaise

(269,169 posts)
2. Arrest the relative
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 09:53 PM
Mar 2013

If relatives left prescription drugs or household cleaning chemicals around and children were killed or injured they would face the consequences.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
5. Where was the mythical "good baby with a gun" when we needed him?
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 10:07 PM
Mar 2013

because this was obviously a bad baby with a gun.

Terra Alta

(5,158 posts)
6. Why did the aunt pull out the gun to begin with?
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 10:10 PM
Mar 2013

Especially around a three year old?

The aunt should be arrested. I hope the child will be okay.

petronius

(26,603 posts)
20. That's a good question - and I can't think of any answer that should
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 02:44 AM
Mar 2013

prevent her being arrested and charged. Stupid stupid thing to do...

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
22. Because there is none.
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 05:30 AM
Mar 2013

Reckless disregard at the VERY least.

I can't think of any reason why any sane, thinking person would "pull out a gun" in front of a toddler. Under any circumstance.

union_maid

(3,502 posts)
8. This is so scary
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 10:12 PM
Mar 2013

My great nephew, who is an adorable toddler, lives in TN. His father is very into guns. When I see headlines like this it just scares the hell out of me. I hope this child will be all right and I hope that my nephew's parents are taking careful note. They probably are. They're both doting parents, but...well, you know...it's just scary.

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
19. Yes, guns are dangerous
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 02:03 AM
Mar 2013

but as with any danger we are surrounded by daily, we must keep the danger in context..For instance:

Consider the parents of an eight-year-old girl named, say, Molly. Her two best friends, Amy and Imani, each live nearby. Molly’s parents know that Amy’s parents keep a gun in their house, so they have forbidden Molly to play there. Instead, Molly spends a lot of time at Imani’s house, which has a swimming pool in the backyard. Molly’s parents feel good about having made such a smart choice to protect their daughter.

But according to the data, their choice isn’t smart at all. In a given year, there is one drowning of a child for every 11,000 residential pools in the United States. (In a country with 6 million pools, this means that roughly 550 children under the age of ten drown each year.) Meanwhile, there is 1 child killed by a gun for every 1 million-plus guns. (In a country with an estimated 200 million guns, this means that roughly 175 children under ten die each year from guns.) The likelihood of death by pool (1 in 11,000) versus death by gun (1 in 1 million-plus) isn’t even close: Molly is roughly 100 times more likely to die in a swimming accident at Imani’s house than in gunplay at Amy’s.

http://www.freakonomics.com/books/freakonomics/chapter-excerpts/chapter-5/

union_maid

(3,502 posts)
23. Actually, I have no doubt that pools are very dangerous
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 07:43 AM
Mar 2013

Would not have one. Even if you have no kids it's an attractive nuisance and a big liability, even if you're careful. That said, my kids logged many hours of supervised fun playing in their grandparents' pool. I don't think that if their grandparents' had had guns instead it would have worked out nearly as well.

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
24. Millions of kids/families participate in shooting sports and hunting with no ill effects...
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 09:52 AM
Mar 2013

statistically, guns are as safe or safer form of recreation as many other activities enjoyed by kids and families..skiing, ATVs, motorcycles, organized sports, equine, bicycling..all are dangerous and just as tragic when a kid is injured or dies. I and my kids have participated in many hours of supervised shooting and hunting with no ill effects. It isn't for everyone, but neither are many other activities with risks people participate in..

I grew up in a farming community which had a much higher gun ownership rate than the national average. Hunting and shooting sports were/are enjoyed by many. The school year was scheduled with the opening of deer season coinciding with teacher inservice, which was optional for teachers too. I was taught early about gun safety and everyone watched everyone else and safety was always the top concern. In my years growing up, I don't remember anyone I knew being shot. I carried my shotgun to school on the school bus for the firearms safety/trap shooting unit in physical education which always proceeded bird hunting season. Every kid had to participate in the firearms safety portion of the unit, parents could opt their kids out of the trap shooting part (though few if any did). My kids were introduced to gun safety and shooting early too...as they were to swimming..

My only point was that if you are worried about this, there are many other things which are equally dangerous which your relatives participate in too..

jazzimov

(1,456 posts)
9. "tennessee again" - what is that supposed to mean, exactly?
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 10:13 PM
Mar 2013

This is a tragedy, and a tragic example of gun ownership.

But what do you mean about "Tennessee again". Please edit your OP to not reflect regionalism.

spanone

(135,877 posts)
10. it is my home and the home of republican rule..guns in bars...guns in the trunk
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 10:16 PM
Mar 2013

the state is gun obsessed....

republican house

republican senate

republican governor.

tennessee again....


Tennessee Lawmakers Allow Guns In Bars
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/05/tennessee-lawmakers-allow_n_211710.html


Governor likely to OK Tennessee's "guns-in-trunks" bill
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/02/28/us-usa-guns-tennessee-idUSBRE91R1KL20130228

State Requirements

Rifles and Shotguns

Permit to purchase rifles and shotguns? No.
Registration of rifles and shotguns? No.
Licensing of owners of rifles and shotguns? No.
Permit to carry rifles and shotguns? No.
Handguns
Permit to purchase handgun? No.
Registration of handguns? No.
Licensing of owners of handguns? No.
Permit to carry handguns? Yes.

http://crime.about.com/od/gunlawsbystate/a/gunlaws_tn.htm


jazzimov

(1,456 posts)
12. Thank you for adding this info.
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 10:40 PM
Mar 2013

It goes quite far to explain the mentality that created the environment of this horrible tragedy.

But I hope that you can understand that simply stating "TN again" without this added information caused me to think "regionalism". If you had included this info establishing the environment and the reason for your disgust, can you see the difference that might have made?

Again, thank you for this info!

NBachers

(17,137 posts)
11. And an enormous amount of resources goes to make up for the criminal stupidity and neglect
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 10:31 PM
Mar 2013

How much did *just* the flight to Vanderbilt University Medical Center in Nashville cost?

How many people mobilized to save this poor baby's life?

What will it cost in surgery, medicine, reconstruction, therapy, and lost potential?

Who's going to pay, and who's going to prison?

ThatPoetGuy

(1,747 posts)
14. Quick, gun lovers! Better hurry to take away this child's rights!
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 10:46 PM
Mar 2013

Gotta protect the gun manufacturers from the kids!

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
18. Another responsible gun owner.
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 12:40 AM
Mar 2013

Face it everyone, so long as the 2nd amendment is sacred, so long as the notion continues that guns make us safer, then these kinds of things will happen. Get over being shocked by it.

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