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Baitball Blogger

(46,745 posts)
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 12:18 PM Mar 2013

Rollins College boots student religious group off campus

Rollins College has kicked a religious student group off campus for requiring its student leaders to be Christian and promote certain conservative beliefs — a violation of the private school's anti-discrimination policy.

Organizers with the InterVarsity Christian Fellowship learned last fall that Rollins planned to "de-recognize" it, or strip away its funding and rights to recruit on campus, reserve meeting space and claim any affiliation with the small liberal-arts college in Winter Park.

The group, which has encountered similar issues at other colleges in recent years, requested an exemption that the board of trustees denied late last month.

InterVarsity argues that religious groups should be able to use religious criteria to choose their officers, who are considered spiritual leaders

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/features/education/os-rollins-college-boots-religious-group-20130307,0,22820.story

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Rollins College boots student religious group off campus (Original Post) Baitball Blogger Mar 2013 OP
Kristo-Fascist Youth Group (R) gets Karmick Kick in Keester Berlum Mar 2013 #1
Environmental group banned because it required it's leaders to be pro-environment el_bryanto Mar 2013 #2
This school attracts children born to 1 percenters. Baitball Blogger Mar 2013 #4
If you strive for inclusivity why have student groups at all? el_bryanto Mar 2013 #6
I'm sure these organizations would have to be just as inclusive. Baitball Blogger Mar 2013 #8
I am just saying that if I were a conservative or Christian on that campus el_bryanto Mar 2013 #12
As I stated earlier, it is a small campus. Baitball Blogger Mar 2013 #15
Liberty University dropped the campus Democratic party group kimbutgar Mar 2013 #7
Yep - that's no better. I mean yes Rollins is a private campus el_bryanto Mar 2013 #13
Misleading headline. They weren't "booted off campus" Viking12 Mar 2013 #3
Which includes meeting places on campus, no? Baitball Blogger Mar 2013 #5
Did you even bother to read pst the headline of your link? Viking12 Mar 2013 #16
Apparently, the eyes read, but the mind made the wrong assumptions. Baitball Blogger Mar 2013 #17
It happens. Viking12 Mar 2013 #18
"It's Time To Grab The Bull By The Balls And Kick Those Punks Off Campus" Liberal_Dog Mar 2013 #9
Fascism in the name of religion is fascism none the less. lpbk2713 Mar 2013 #10
That sounds sketchy. Union Scribe Mar 2013 #11
+100. nt Skip Intro Mar 2013 #14
From the story link. timdog44 Mar 2013 #19

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
1. Kristo-Fascist Youth Group (R) gets Karmick Kick in Keester
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 12:22 PM
Mar 2013

for their un-Christian & unAmerican evil-based hate & fear ACTivities. Wait for it: right-wing whining & tantrums to commence in 1 - 2 - 3....

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
2. Environmental group banned because it required it's leaders to be pro-environment
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 12:27 PM
Mar 2013

Labor group banned because it required it's leaders to be pro union.

Democratic group banned because it required it's leaders to be in favor if the Democratic Party.

Pro Kitten group banned because it required it's leaders to like cats.

In fairness, this is a privately owned university - if they have as their charter that they want to promote liberal ideals, than I can see why they would ban Conservatoid Christian Groups, in the same way that I can see why they don't permit people here to be in favor of Republicans. Certainly there are plenty of Conservative Christian colleges which do not encourage or permit liberal groups.

Bryant

Baitball Blogger

(46,745 posts)
4. This school attracts children born to 1 percenters.
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 12:38 PM
Mar 2013

I think they should be commended for the action because they'll probably get grief over it.

But, yes, they are very big on raising awareness to social issues and, thus, strive for inclusivity. It sounds like the purpose of the religious organization was counter to that objective.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
6. If you strive for inclusivity why have student groups at all?
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 12:41 PM
Mar 2013

Don't student groups automatically divide the students?

And if you are going to allow student groups why is it wrong for them to require their leaders to support the issues the group is organized around? Would you ding an Humanist/Atheist group for refusing to allow religious types to lead their club?

Bryant

Baitball Blogger

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8. I'm sure these organizations would have to be just as inclusive.
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 01:04 PM
Mar 2013

If a Liberal Arts program welcomes debate and discussion, you don't get that with like-minded members. Diversity is what broadens people's minds.

I imagine that every club has to justify itself by stating a purpose. At that time, whether they have the support of the small college, will depend on what they have to offer the other students.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
12. I am just saying that if I were a conservative or Christian on that campus
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 01:41 PM
Mar 2013

I'd be joining every liberal humanist group I could and insisting that they make me an officer.

Bryant

Baitball Blogger

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15. As I stated earlier, it is a small campus.
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 02:03 PM
Mar 2013

I don't think they would have a very active social life on weekends, if they were the talk in Beans--which is the name of the school cafeteria.

Besides, don't officers need to be voted in? I think this Christian organization was making it a requirement that officers HAD to be Christians.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
13. Yep - that's no better. I mean yes Rollins is a private campus
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 01:42 PM
Mar 2013

as is Liberty - they can do what they want. But I'm not keen on it.

Bryant

Viking12

(6,012 posts)
3. Misleading headline. They weren't "booted off campus"
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 12:30 PM
Mar 2013

Their access to campus resources were withheld because of their discriminatory policies.

Viking12

(6,012 posts)
16. Did you even bother to read pst the headline of your link?
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 02:16 PM
Mar 2013
Duncan said that though InterVarsity is no longer a college-affiliated group at Rollins, it can still rent space at college events and buy advertising in school publications. Students are still allowed to meet on campus for Bible studies and other religious activities, although not under the auspices of the organization and without the oversight of officials from InterVarsity.


In other words, they can still shake their booty anyway they want but they can't call themselves a student organization.

Baitball Blogger

(46,745 posts)
17. Apparently, the eyes read, but the mind made the wrong assumptions.
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 02:26 PM
Mar 2013

I wonder if the other organizations are allowed to use the facilities rent free?

So, I concede you the point. The title is misleading.

Viking12

(6,012 posts)
18. It happens.
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 02:30 PM
Mar 2013

Most universities allow recognized student organizations to use the facilities for free or at reduced cost. However, to maintain recognition by the university, the organizations have to meet certain criteria of which non-discrimination is one.

lpbk2713

(42,760 posts)
10. Fascism in the name of religion is fascism none the less.
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 01:14 PM
Mar 2013



They are intolerable bigots and they deserve to be given the boot.


Good on Rollins. I was there for a meeting for a couple of days some
time ago and I got a good feeling about the place.



Union Scribe

(7,099 posts)
11. That sounds sketchy.
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 01:40 PM
Mar 2013

And so do a lot of the rationalizations I'm hearing, including citing Liberty University dismantling a Democratic club. Like that's okay?

The whole thing sounds punitive. This is a list of their student clubs: http://www.rollins.edu/osil/so/orgslist.html

According to their policy, it is wrong for the Jewish Student Union to choose Jewish officers, or for the Muslim Student Association to choose Muslim officers. So when do those get the boot?

timdog44

(1,388 posts)
19. From the story link.
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 02:59 PM
Mar 2013

College officials pointed out that this past year, the president of Rollins' Latin American Student Association was an Asian-American student and the Muslim Student Association president was not Muslim.

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