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Many buildings currently owned by the Postal Service are for sale, or are being considered for sale. Preservation groups say some of the buildings are architecturally significant and that their design elements and historic features should be protected.
BERKELEY, CALIF.
BRONX
PRINCETON, N.J.
WEST CHESTER, PA.
More here: http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/03/07/arts/design/postal-service-looks-to-sell-historic-buildings.html?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th_20130308&_r=0
This is what the right wing attempt to privatize our postal system is doing. These are historic structures and have been a significant fixture in these communities.
lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)bluestate10
(10,942 posts)Most buildings, even when they are beautiful, seldom work out as commercial space unless a concerted effort is made to make the space work. Foot traffic is important for commercial buildings, not so much for medical, dental, or law offices. In fact, the elegance of a building is a selling point when it comes to professional office space.
talkingmime
(2,173 posts)At least turn them into museums or something. It makes no sense to sell them.
Brother Buzz
(36,448 posts)and some have museums included in the remodeling/transformation.
Here's an old post office in San Francisco that was converted to retail shops, restaurants, office space, and apartments back in the eighties. The building was a white elephant for mail service.
The lobby with the famous murals was left intact and made into a museum:
This is what is behind the lobby:
talkingmime
(2,173 posts)HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)Brother Buzz
(36,448 posts)most are eligible for the National Register. State register, too.
HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)new owners get a historic designation?
pipi_k
(21,020 posts)got turned into something functional and fun and good for the city of Westfield, MA...
Very beautiful inside. Nice atmosphere, great food!
http://www.tavernrestaurantwestfield.com/
SQUEE
(1,315 posts)The Frist was originally the main post office for Nashville, it was designed in 1933 and is a great example of Art deco architecture, and shining example of New Deal PWA success. It was renovated to become a museum around 2000.
Some cool pics
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-mWIT0enWU3o/Ttsj7IYZysI/AAAAAAAABb8/of42i_lsG7g/s1600/Frist+Center.jpg
http://tuck-hinton.com/wp-content/themes/tuck-hinton/themify/img.php?src=&w=767&h=526
http://www.concierge.com/images/destinations/destinationguide/usa+canada/usa/tennessee/nashville/nashville_009p.jpg
malaise
(269,087 posts)Who will stop these thieves?
Comrade_McKenzie
(2,526 posts)We have a new, bigger modernized facility... but it's still sickening.
brentspeak
(18,290 posts)to wealthy developers and investors. It is a looting of public property, engineered by the GOP and now enabled by corporate Democrats like Diane Feinstein, Tom Carper, and Barack Obama.
Brother Buzz
(36,448 posts)In the summer of 2012, the U.S. Postal Service awarded Blum's CBRE company the exclusive contract to sell its portfolio of public properties.
Feinstein's office denies any influence in the awarding of the contract, SO STOP SAYING THAT!
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)Stop jerking your knee so hard, you'll wear it out.
The government has sold surplus items including real estate since its inception.
Some of those older Post Office buildings needed massive updating to almost every system to be viable.
Many of those facilities were no longer upgradeable, or to do so would be prohibitively expensive.
Some had limited parking and handicapped accessability, outmoded docks for mail trucks, too small a work area to handle an increased mail volume.
It was cheaper to design and build a new facility from scratch that would serve the citizens better.
If you actually think that you will be able to purchase one for a song, go for it.
brentspeak
(18,290 posts)That is what is known in the trade as "pennies on the dollar". And that is just the asking price; the negotiated price will be much less.
http://www.uspspropertiesforsale.com/default.asp?f=listing_details&listingid=302096&listingtype=22
"Those buildings are sometimes sold at a premium to market".
Those are your words, not mine.
"The government has sold surplus items including real estate since its inception."
The government has never sold so many USPS buildings before, especially not ones which are listed in the National Registry of Historic Places.
Your antagonistic and factually disingenuous post raises the obvious question: just what personal stake do you have in this issue?
For example, members of the public are not usually allowed to know final sale prices of these USPS properties -- how would you know them? And how could you possibly know which USPS buildings are supposedly lacking in parking/handicapped space, have "outmoded docks for mail trucks", and "have too small a work area for increased mail volume" (an obvious falsehood -- most of these buildings are among USPS largest properties)? Those are talking points parroted about by lobbyists who work on behalf of hedge funds and real estate developers looking to get a piece of the action.
liberal N proud
(60,338 posts)The rich getting richer off the tax payer.
Initech
(100,087 posts)HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)More background at this Kos link about the fire sales going on with Post Offices: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/12/01/1165912/-Selling-off-the-Post-Office-Berkeley-calls-out-Richard-Blum
kwassa
(23,340 posts)Like it or not.